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PA to publish ads in Israeli media     Ali Waked
1. Refugees Solution is Problematic
What this article doesn't go into is the part about allowing the return of the Palestinian refugees, and two generations after them, to Israel within the 67 borders. Also the deal is non negotiable, so as soon as we move forward it's giving land (to 67 borders) and not getting normalized relations because we could never agree to the refugees coming into Israel pre 67, and maintain Israel's Jewish identity. In short the ball is in their court, need to change the Refugee part, till then we can't even consider looking at it. Its a total surrender of the Jewish state.
Abba ,   Rehovot Israel   (11.18.08)
2. plo to educate israel on 'peace' plan
very nice--they will even offer to pay for the cemetary plots in saudi $!
elliot ,   usa   (11.18.08)
3. they're desparate
they don't have to do anything to have peace. what they want is more land now and to finish off the rest of israel once the demographics make it possible. however, unless they can show that they are defeating the israelis, the palestinian arabs will lose patience dump them and establish hamastan #2 on the west bank. this is a desparate attempt to show their "slow but steady" path to victory over the jews is working as opposed to hamas's idea of "victory now".
david ,   new york   (11.18.08)
4. israel has shamed the worlds jewish population
Why are either the newspapers or the politicians allowing the PLO to start taking out adverts in Israeli newspapers promoting a political plan in an attempt to influence the outcome of an Israeli election. In any other westernised country the government would be telling the papers they are not allowed to let enemies publish political adds especialy if the aim is at influencing the outcome of elections. Israel becomes more and more of an embaresment to the jewish people every day. Everything that the founders of the jewish sate dreamed of are either dead or dying because our politicians have become so obsessed with the idea of peace at any price and surrender rather than fighting for the intersts of the country as a whole. If this is how we run the country these days do we even deserve to keep it. The arabs want to take Israel from the jews by force but they are willing to blow themselves up in the name of their cause and they never surrender on even the smallest issues while all Israels red lines have been crossed in the name of the peace process. The peace process is proovng itself to be the object thats taking Israel along the path of destruction but we embrace it, Jews worldwide should be condeming everything Israel has become and demand we go back to basics.
zionist forever   (11.18.08)
5. Tibi?
Kinda hard to believe anything from him...
Ilana ,   Israel   (11.18.08)
6. Here's a link to the Israeli Initiative...
http://www.israelinitiative.com/ The Saudi initiative will only strengthen the human-rights abusing Palestinian Authority, and will not only be a disaster for Israel, but for the entire Middle East as well. The Israeli Initiative- The Right Road to Peace.
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (11.18.08)
7. "educate"!!!!
Sad that YNet has chosen to use the word "educate". Sure to bring the usual collection of rabid commentators out to say that there is nothing that the Palestinians can teach Israelis (actually more likely they will use the same sentence but with the terms Arabs and Jews). Nothing in the public statements by the Palestinians responsible for this talks of educating Israelis. They talk of communicating and approaching directly. It would have been better to use the term "reach out"; but that wouldn't fit with the editorial line, I fear.
Jonathan ,   Jerusalem   (11.18.08)
8. these ads should be banned as enemy propoganda
Would Arabs newspapers accept Israeli ads? This is pure chutzpa!
Moish ,   Jerusalem   (11.18.08)
9. SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT
ALL ARAB COUNTRIES will completely shut down al queda fatah hamas assrahlah and all other divisions and subdivisions, THEY WILL LAY DOWN ALL WEAPONS ,MAKE FAMILIES ,FARM AND WORK AND BE LIKE ALL NORMAL PEOPLE OIN A CIVLIZED WORLD. SO, the above will recognize ISRAEL IF ISRAEL GOES BACK TO 67 BORDERS WHT DID THE ARABS ATTACK IN 67 what ever reason they attacked , still exist today. The answer is WE ARE JEWISH AND DO NOT ACCEPT MOHAMED and will not die for them. what will the word do when the arabs again break that agreement. NOT A THING !
..............DACON9   (11.18.08)
10. Israel has no self esteem at all
Palestinians (West Bank only) to influence our elections? And we are?
m   (11.18.08)
11. LOL
Nick Sporek ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.18.08)
12. joe: keep dreaming
your so called (and obviously one-sided, shallow and baseless 'israeli initiative') is not recognized anywhere in the world. Face it dude, your radical and extemist thoughts are just fantasies awaiting expiry. Get real, and accept the arab initiative.
Hani ,   Palestine   (11.18.08)
13. Brilliant idea!
Both peoples need to begin talking to each other- to the average person (the majority) and not the extremists or those already convinced (both are minorities).
Israeli   (11.18.08)
14. they have been "educating" us for the last hundred years
They have spared no effort, no words or actions to destroy us, as individuals or as a state. It is high time we reminded them that there is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there has never been a Palestinian state and if they are not happy where they are, they can always go to Jordan or Egypt or even Syria where they belong!
israeli ,   israeli   (11.18.08)
15. Arab peace
Arabs don't even know the meaning of the word peace. Arab peace means submit to Arab diktats and give your liberties, your properties and your lives to your Muslim masters.
Frank ,   Canada   (11.18.08)
16. PA ad is one more proof of Kadima betrayal
The Fakestinian Authority which is an official ennemy of Israel is supporting Livni and Kadima who are promoting a Saudi 'peace' plan which is everything but a real peace plan.
Frank ,   Canada   (11.18.08)
17. PERES ALSO ENDORSED THIS PLAN...
that tells you everything you need to know about it...
stude ham   (11.18.08)
18. Bankrupt
All newspapers that carry the PA ads should go our of business.
Stephanie ,   Israel   (11.18.08)
19. Peace in whose time !
If there is a ball in anyone's court it is a snow ball. This peace plan will not stand up for a full year. It will melt away like a snowman in springtime. Arabs are morally biased against Jews. They need to get used to the idea Judaism is here, is staying here and has an infinite future in Jerusalem. A future that will mean most muslims today will have to revise some of their beliefs. First of all the belief that all Jews must convert to Islam in order to be justified by faith in this world. Only Jews can prove to Arabs that Jews are right about this. We are not required to convert to Islam to be justified to be Israeli citizens either. Forget this peace plan. It will never happen. Israel is not going to retreat to 1967 frontiers. It would be a disaster for the whole world. Arabs are going to make peace with arabs and by this I mean they are going to be rational about the constitutional role of Islam and Islamic policy making bodies. Arab countries need to talk about harmonizing their political science. Arabs need to implore Palestinians to negotiate with Israel non-violently. Israel will stand for nothing less. Damn anybody who wants to compromise on our national security. Peace is an illusion. Diplomats use the word like tissue paper to wipe away their tears each time someone is killed.....Israeli or Palestinian. You don't need to have a plan to be a peaceful human being.
steve ,   london, england   (11.18.08)
20. #12 - Hani, The Israeli Initiative is actually viable...
The Israeli Initiative is actually viable, not like the Saudi Initiative. Interestingly enough, I could launch the same attack against the Saudi plan that you launch against the Israeli plan, but the only difference is that a Palestinian state is not and never was a viable option. Just look at how your PA violates human rights! As much dirt and filth you spew against us Israelis, the truth is that you Arabs treat your brother Arabs 10x worse than we do. Look at the amount of Arabs fleeing Yesha! Look at Birzeit University's survey that says that somewhere near 50% of young Arab males living in Yesha would leave if they could! Look at the fact that Palestinian militias view the Hashemite Kingdom as next on their target list after Israel! Reality is staring you in the face, Hani, a viable Palestinian state just isn't in the cards. Resistence is futile...
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (11.18.08)
21. They should be banned from this!
We should not hear or see the palis on the t.v., radio or newspapers. We need a Jewish government that will throw the arabs out of our Jewish land. But jail all the arab politicians for life. We need to crush the palis and get them off our land. It is not their's!
jason white ,   afula,israel   (11.18.08)
22. Arab war plan? I have read. Its racist and a non starter
This is not a peace plan. Its a war plan in actuallity that the Arabs are calling a peace plan. There is nothing peaceful about it other than they plan to take over through non violent yet illegitimately. Just like they stoleJordan Palestine and the Temple Mount, the Holy of Holies.
David ,   Boston, USA   (11.18.08)
23. Why is this legal?
A terrorist organization printing this lying propaganda in our newspapers to influence our elections is highly illegal. Oh right laws don't apply to the extreme leftists. The PLO has already educated us since 1964 and several hundred thousands of terrorist attacks. Their onesided racist war-plan is not acceptable.
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (11.18.08)
24. Palestinian tripe. Let's see them publish maps in Arabic
We don't need more PA lies. Erekat is one of their biggest official liars, well known in Israel for his attempt to convince the world of the phony Jenin massacre that never occurred. If Erekat wants any credibility (which is tough for a compulsive liar like him to overcome), then let's see the PA publish maps in the Palestinian press showing the two-state solution with Israel clearly marked. Real easy! Cheaper than ads in the Israeli papers. But impossible to do. Why? Because the Palestinians can't even sell the peace process to their own people. If it's not good enough for the Pals, then it's not good for us either. The EU should tell Abbas and Erekat to stop wasting EU taxpayers money on these stupid, useless, misleading ads.
JPS ,   Efrat   (11.18.08)
25. Try watching PA TV and newspapers, Abbas is a terrorist!!!!!
Zion   (11.18.08)
26. #13: Extremists ARE the Majority In Gaza
emanon ,   USA   (11.19.08)
27. HOW ABOUT PUBLISHING THE FATAH CHARTER AS WELL...
..so that we all can have an idea who we are about to make peace with and what do they expect from this "peace".
Takan ,   Eilat   (11.19.08)
28. Seems Israeli Right wingers are afraid of peace
To busy being consumed with hatred. Free Palestine and end the occupation
judge jew-dy ,   Ramat HaSharon   (11.19.08)
29. Arabs repudiate Roadmap
The placement of these advertisements amount to a total - and highly public - repudiation of the Roadmap by the Palestinian Authority after almost six years of totally fruitless negotiations. The Bush Roadmap and the negotiating farce it represented is effectively ended once and for all by these ads. The Quartet - America, the European Union, Russia and the United Nations - will see its collective prestige in jointly endorsing and promoting the Roadmap finally come crashing to the ground without achieving one iota of movement in achieving the Roadmapā€˜s objectives. Those countries who have paid up on their pledges totalling US$7.7 billion dollars to the Palestinian Authority just 11 months ago must be aghast - as must those other countries who have contributed billions of more dollars in the last 15 years to a totally implacable and unyielding Palestinian Authority. Rejecting 90% of what you want and holding out for 100% - and being supported in that rejection by a host of fawning nations eager to throw money at you - has been brought to an end by a few full page ads. The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
david singer ,   sydney australia   (11.25.08)
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