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Wake up, Israel
Robert D. Onley
Published: 18.11.08, 19:03
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1. Great article...but missing one main point!
JAy3 ,   Israel   (11.18.08)
There will never be any peace while the notion of a bogus Arab Palestinian people exists! These Arabs are no more Palastinian than the Jews living in the area. Our past governments since Oslo, has allowed this lie to escalate to a level where the whole world and its media believes that the Arabs solely, have the right to this land because they are Palastinian. The world doesn't realize that no Arab would consider himself a Palastinian pre 67. The world doesn't realize that it used to be referred to as a Jewish Palestine. There will never be any peace till the world realizes that these Arabs are fooling them and that there really is no Palestinian people. With proper education, theres no need to support their bogus claims!
2. Great Article
JewishRefugee ,   U.S.A.   (11.18.08)
But it seems that Israeli Jews are very reluctant to act against its traitorous government. The government that over and over again proved that it works for its own pockets. When will Israeli people and the Jewry around the world wake up? Please join the new blog at http://israelactnow.blogspot.com/ to voice your opinion, to show your support for Israel.
3. So true - but alas...
Chaim ,   Canada   (11.18.08)
People who refuse to see this are in charge of the media which brainwashes Israelis not to see this and in the Supreme Court which continually enables the enemies of Israel and squashes the defenders of Jewish sovereignty.
5. Israel must do what it needs to
Churchill   (11.18.08)
God of our fathers,who by land andsea have ever lead us to victory please continue your inspiring guidance in this our greatest of conflicts. Stregthen our soul so that the weakening instinct of self preservation, which besets us all in battle shall not bind me too my duty to my own manhood, to the glory of my calling and to my responsibility to my fellow soliders.Grant to our armed forces that disciplined valor and mutual confidence which ensures success in war. Let me not morn for the men who have died fighting, but rather let me be glad that such heroes have lived. If it be my lot to die let me do so with courage and honor in a manner to bring greatest harm to the enemy and please oh lord ,protect and guide those who I shall leave behind. Give us the Victory oh Lord!
6. wait a moment
josse ,   germany   (11.18.08)
you will lose your state not by war but by birthrate - you will not recognise your land within two decades. your nice neighbors will be the majority an you should have an US or EU pass.
7. Response
Dan ,   Fairfield USA   (11.18.08)
"only political infants swill imagine that the major powers would damage their relations with the arab countries in order to perserve the lives of the citizens of Israel. This task is incumbent on the State of Israel itself and only on it." Ben Gurion
8. Good, obvious, pity about the religious mumbo jumbo
Avinoam ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.18.08)
Politics would be much simpler if you left religion out of it. No one agrees on it anyhow. It only serves to polarise the atmosphere. A good article is one that speaks to people that don't hold your world view. Religion is a difficult barrier to cross and as the author of the article, it is up to you to create the bridge along which one may cross to your point of view. As to the content, it's seems an accurate account of our predicament.
9. #6
Emanuel ,   Karachi, Pakistan   (11.18.08)
As long as nations like your country GERMANY exsist jews from around the world will keep on immigrating to Israel. Dont worry Israel will keep on exsisting.
10. ohh...my..somebody has some brains in Israel
Dan ,   USA   (11.18.08)
after all. Amazing! Great article!
11. The Arabs and their violent arm the Palestinian Arabs
Cathy ,   USA   (11.18.08)
will continue to test the Jewish will.
12. The Jews are stuck with the Arabs and all those who are
William ,   USA   (11.18.08)
hateful and envious of the Jews.
13. 2 posibilities
Masaryk   (11.19.08)
There are 2 posibilities left for Israel: Step back, step back, step back like a lamb to the slaughter or fight.
14. wake up israel and elect bibi & bugi
josh ,   east timor   (11.19.08)
15. Excellent article
Brod ,   USA   (11.19.08)
Onley is right on target pertaining to Israel's need to defend her sovereignity. This is a Must Read article by the leaders and Israelis. The fact is GOD has restored Modern Israel in Ancient Israel in the 20th century as a Fulfillment of His Covenant to Israel 2500 years ago. Jeremiah 31:1-17, Ezekiel 36:24-38, Ezekiel 37:21-28, Ezekiel 39:27-29, Amos 9:14-15. No mortal should dare tamper with GOD's Restoration of Modern Israel in Ancient Israel-the Land of Israel-Israel's liberated biblical and historic homeland.
16. Israel
jeff ,   chicago   (11.19.08)
I am a Christian that believes in Israel as the true and holy place. Our bible teaches us that there will one day be a final attack on Israel by several countries. Our belief is that this final onslaught by these horrible people, God will watch over Israel and not allow anything to happen. Book of Revelations May Israel Have Glory and Peace Someday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17.  The real problem our enemies living with us
e.m.Jordan is Palest ,   s.f   (11.19.08)
The strong and undefeatable IDF can bring peace and stability in that neighborhood but in the final day the State of Israel still have problem because 20% of our population are our enemy which because of their believe in religion of hate co -existence with themes is impossible, First clean the bombs that are unsafe for the nation move those bombs to their State Jordan and the next step that is peace will be easier and the answer is strong and undefeatable IDF, By the way does U.S.A cares to have peace with Cuba ?
18. Hamasturbation
Steve ,   Tel Aviv   (11.19.08)
Ever since Gilad Shalit’s abduction, the quality of life among Gazans has plummeted and is getting worse each day. Indeed Hamas was elected democratically by the people of Gaza, but with democracy comes collective responsibility. It is the Palestinian people who can exert the required pressure on Hamas to release Gilad. It is the Palestinian people who pose the greatest threat to Hamas’ hold on power. However, in order to encourage Palestinian public opinion to do so, it must be made absolutely clear to these real victims - the 1.5 million Gazans - that releasing this one individual is in their collective best interest. If governments cannot influence Hamas, then for the sake of the Palestinian people, it is essential that the media, artists, writers, businesspeople, educators, religious leaders, and peace-loving people everywhere exercise their own freedom of speech by any and all means now. People have the power! Gilad’s wellbeing is Gaza’s wellbeing.
19. Oh yes! This is the spirit!
Johnny ,   Stockholm Sweden   (11.19.08)
20. #9 - Germany is not the problem
Avinoam ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.19.08)
That kind of attitude is counter-productive to Israeli-German relations. Germany does not suffer from diminished moral standing because of the Holocaust. I don't think any country has given the Holocaust the due respect as Germany has done, not even Israel. As a Jew, I despise the demonisation of Germany. I find it cruel, short-sighted and unjustified. In the end we may find that Germany is the reason why we're still here. As for the rest of Europe. Most of it does not command the same respect. The Holocaust came about as a realisation of hundreds of years of anti-semitism through-out Europe. Yet at the end of WWII Germany was a convenient scape-goat. No one can deny her role, but few countries can claim not to have played a part.
21. Amen. Am Yisrael Chai!
Efroim ,   Washington DC   (11.19.08)
It is time we assert ourselves and do what is necessary. Enough! Lets give the enemies a thrashing that they so badly need.
22. The Jewish people, strong and united will not fear ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (11.19.08)
The Jewish people, strong and united will not fear its enemies. Carrying out the demoralizing ejection of patriotic Jews from Gaza was implemented by training the IDF to see the "settlers" as the enemy and the families of Arab terrorists as more worthy of protection than Jews. This made for a psychically weakened IDF when it was called on to fight in Lebanon the next summer. Our total faith in our legitimate rights on the Land of Israel will restore the spirit of the I.D.F and its deterrence. The Jewish people, strong and united, will then face its enemy and vainquish. As to our legitimate rights on our land at : http://xrl.us/bj5ng
23. WOW! Great article
Sane being   (11.19.08)
Israel's state of affairs should be a warning sign as to what happens when a nation lets itself be run over by liberal lunatics who are intent on commiting suicide and taking everyone else down with them in the name of utopian ideals of love peace, eternal friendship, and "we are all people of planet earth" CRAP. If Israel goes, the western world will go with it., since they have clearly lost their will to fight and have surrendered themselves to leftist notions that have left them void of nationality and identity. As there are no vacums in the world, they will be run over by those who still have one.
24. Dont worry about the Arabs. The enemy always
David ,   USA   (11.19.08)
shows its true color. It is the leftist Jews/the Beilinists who want to destroy Israel as much as the Arabs do.
25. Israel is the target practice preceding the war against ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (11.19.08)
Israel is the target practice preceding the war against the rest of the West, including the US. Israel will need in the time available to overhaul its military-training and preparing it adequately for the relevant challenges ahead. It will need to ensure that it has a national leadership that understands the capabilities of the military and that knows how to integrate this knowledge into a clear, stable national strategy with clearly defined goals and parameters, and to which it then adheres. It will need to prepare its public for the awareness that the country is engaged with an enemy pursuing a clearly thought out "long war" strategy, which may take years and may require further sacrifices--such as, for example, the inevitable cost in the lives of soldiers that would accompany a large-scale ground operation of the type which could deal a real military blow to its enemies. Israel will fight for its country because it is the land of the Jews and the Jews have no other as explained in 6 parts at : http://xrl.us/bi5c6
26. to 13
nana ,   jerusalem   (11.19.08)
two possibilities ---ive or die ... i think if israil is destroyed the jews will servive .it is not possible to kill all jews as it is difficult to kill all palastinians .so by fight or peace some will die and other will live so why to walke to war only .try the peace to save israil and to save palastine .as people and land .. the two states is good if they can not live with each others
27. Sorry, we're too busy fighting each other
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (11.19.08)
It's hard to keep in mind that the goal is to drain the swamp when you're up to your eyeballs in gators. Look at the internecine fighting going on in all of the population centers of Israel. The Arabs will have to get in line if they wish to destroy us. We're doing a fine job ourselves with no prospect of solution until we radically change our attitude. And the Arabs, Muslims, Christians, atheists, hedonists and homosexuals are all lovin' it. Anyone who thinks hedonist-seculars and Ultra-Orthodox are EVER going to get along together is totally out of contact with the real world. Moderate Jews are the only ones who can educate both hedonist-seculars, at the one extreme, and Ultra-Orthodox at the other extreme; but moderate Jews have either sold out to hedonism or found some other reason to sit on the sidelines to quietly observe their self-destruction. How many sidelined themselves thinking to stay out of the fray in 70 C.E.? In 1942? Only an orientation to Torah that is compatible with logic, science and modernity has any prayer--literally--of enlightening hedonist-seculars (and would go on to enlighten the goyim). However, bringing the Ultra-Orthodox out of medievalism, given their revulsion of everything non-medieval, seems unlikely. (News flash: medievalism and its superstitions is NOT the Torah of the Creator of the laws of the universe. Ultra-Orthodox do NOT represent Torah. Ultra-Orthodox only represent medievalism and, often, Europolotry.) A priori, the only viable unification that is possible only becomes possible if and when moderate Jews get off their idle behinds and get busy educating those around them to Halakhah that is compatible with logic, science and modernity; not only today but tomorrow and the future. Without this coming together, we're looking at 70 C.E. redux; simply substituting Arab Muslim occupiers for Roman Hellenist occupiers. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
28. why are the Jews so self-destructive? because the Jewish
Sam ,   USA   (11.19.08)
tolerance has no limits. It is one thing to be human but it is a totally another thing to be stupid. The Jewish tolerance has reached the level of ultimate stupidity. No Arab state or any self-respected state on this planet would allow the Hamastanis or any other terrorists fire tne countless rockets at its land and people and yet contunue to supply the enemy with electricity and water. No people on this planet would bring the enemies to its land for treatment of cancer or heart ailments. The world will never reward the Jews for being nice. On the contrary the world will continue its hatred toward Jews and Israel regardless what the Jews do or dont do.
29. Dont listen to the ugly Euros, Israel. Had it been up to the
Bill ,   USA   (11.19.08)
Euros there would be no Jews left. The Jews must do what is good for the Jews and not what is good for the enemies of Israel be they Europeans, the Israeli citizens who are hateful of Israel or Palestinian Arabs from Jordan/or Ramallah.
30. AT #20 Avinoam. Well spoken!
Efroim ,   Washington DC   (11.19.08)
Kol ha Kavod. That was a very bright an precise description of what is happening here. Germany is one of the few countries who really help Israel. Some people in USA, etc live in the past and have HUGE educational gaps. Too ignorant to understand what is true. Israel needs to be cleaned up. Mafia bosses,etc need to be taken out. The fight between religious and non-religious has to stop. We as jews have enemies at our doors. Lets unite and fight the real "Sonim", enemies of our nation.
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