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Mumbai horror: Rescue workers shocked by Chabad massacre site
Ronen Medzini
Published: 29.11.08, 23:57
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1. Chabad
sr ,   Nyc,USA   (11.30.08)
am deeply affected by this... Im not sure how this changed me , but it did, as a Yid , a Father , and a Husband. I cant stop thinking about it, and how Moishele will no longer have his parents , to guide him through life.I dont mean to start an Argument , ( and I hate when people use this forum for that ) But I was a little offended by Rabbi Krinsky's words at the press conference.I felt that he kept stressing that this is a tradgedy for "Chabad" and that the whole "Chabad " movement is in mourning. Although I am not Lubavitch , but as I said I was deeply affected by this. Were the jews around the world all Lubavich? No, Of course not, There were Satmar ,Bobov,Skver, Gerrer,Breslov Chasidim,Yirushalmi's, Sfardim, Litvaks,Yeshivish, Zionists, Modern Orthodox, Conservative ,but we all said tehillim together and we all cry together ,not only for the Shluchim,but for all the jews that were killed by this evil . Please tell me if Iam being petty or insensative ,but this how I feel.
2. THE ISLAMIC EXTREMIST TERRORIST MURDERERS
YITZAK BEN SHLOMO ,   Singapore   (11.30.08)
MURDERED OUR CHILD TOO. LO HWEI YEN WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD AND THE ABDOMEN. THE TERRORIST ALSO KILLED RABBI GAVREIL HOLTZBERG. TELL THAT UGLY TERRORIST- THEY HURT ALL OUR FEELINGS ALREADY ! WHAT DID THEY GET FROM DOING MURDERING MY CHILDREN ? BEN SINGAPORE ;- (
3. straitimes .com
ben shlomo SINGAPORE   (11.30.08)
The story of my childerns who were murdered by those Pakistani Extremist Islamic Terrorist .
4. Mumbai horror not shocked
Mike ,   Bristol, Tennessee   (11.30.08)
I am not shocked by these photo's. I would have been shocked if the muslims have been kind and offered peace and love to there fellow man. Now that would be a news story.
5. May G-d comfort their families and may G-d forever curse the
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.30.08)
families of those monster pigs who did this evil.
6. Is THIS ISLAM!?
Ben S ,   NYC< USA   (11.30.08)
Islamic Terrorists kill men, women and children in NYC, Washington, London, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Pakistan, Algeria, Russia, India, Philipines, Israel, Tunisia, Egypt, Indhonesia, Jordan, Iraq, Kenya, .... for goodness sake - IS THIS ISLAM!? This is a SERIOUS question the CIVILIZED world MUST ASK - because their very lives depend on it. The planned response to future attacks in this global war must be planned on this war for survival!
7. Tragic
Aharon   (11.30.08)
My condolences to all the families: Jewish, Indian, American, British, or other, who lost relatives in these attacks. This was all truly horrific.
8. India knows how to deal with terrorists
David   (11.30.08)
We could learn from them
9. That is
Zohar ,   Tel Aviv   (11.30.08)
just so heartbreakiing.....
10. Very Fine People, Muslims
David H ,   Marietta USA   (11.30.08)
This is in Israel's ball court. This is Jewish survival, it is irrelevant that the nationalities were American, Israeli, or Mexican. Bush is a lame duck who has done his best. The Muslim sympathizer we have just elected President won't lift a finger, and his fine supporters of 20 years were probably cheering these guys on with every bullet fired, and every hand grenade tossed at women. So ladies and gentlemen, where do WE go from here?
11. Jews have paid twice for their mistakes
Ezra ,   san diego   (11.30.08)
I would have liked to known that the Rabbi and his family had some way to defend themselves before they where murdered.
12. Educate me....
nikki   (11.30.08)
concerning an area I am struggling with. If those in the Chadbad House were bound and so far I have not heard of any in the hotels, restaurant, hospital or terminal having been bound- does this not seem to people that the jews were the primary subject here? when you bind some, does that not mean something? perhaps a reason for it? not so much the only victims they were after, but it seems at the Chabad House- they wanted to spend time there, did they know the layout of it as other articles claim they knew the layout of the hotels, etc which i can understand being a very public used areas. there have been so many mixed up reports. my gosh it looks like someone was dragged in this picture, it is horrifying. i fear knowing what went on inside of this house. the other photos from other places looks like they got shot and they dropped - but not this one. and to know the rabbi was still alive and covered her- why not like the others did they shot and go? why did they prolong it? help me understand.
13. rewarding evil
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.30.08)
for the fraudelent peace Israel surrenders to and appeases this evil. By your actions of weakness you encourage this evil. They no longer have any fear of Israel or the Jews and this brings more bloodshed to you. With weak and corrupt leaders like Olmert,Livni,Barak and Peres Islamic terrorism is on the rise and peace is more distant than it has ever been. Better that you terrorize the terrorists than they butcher you 1
14. This is what happens when the
Gerard Kalb ,   Dekalb USA   (11.30.08)
citizens do not have guns to protect themselves.
15. Many Mysteries
Dovy ,   Toronto   (11.30.08)
How could it be that Chabad people talked several times to the terrorists by cell phone at the Chabad House? How was it possible that they were even living earlier at the Chabad House? Many unanswered questions.......
16. Put a safe room in each Chabad House or close them.
Rivkah   (11.30.08)
17. 770 Eastern Parkway also shares moral responsibility...
EYS ,   Montreal Canada   (11.30.08)
I'm sorry, but enough is enough. Chabad had nothing to do in Mumbay. The Chabad center in NY is sending shlourhim all over the world, but at a certain point they shoud realize that some country are or could be dangerous.
18. Muslims at their finest- The religion of Peace
Bernie ,   formerly of Seattle   (11.30.08)
19. rabbi b chroman
M GRUEN ,   queens NY   (11.30.08)
i had the opportunity to meet rabbi chroman on several occasions on shabbat in beijing. he had a very melodious voice and loved to sing carlebach melodies, at the seudat shabbos. His favorite melody was "kol ha-olam kulo gsher tzar me-od, ve-haikar lo le-fached klal", meaning the world is just a narrow bridge and there is no need to fear", and I am sure this was the niggun he had on his sweet lips, as he gave his life as a Kadosh, which he always sang in his soft sweet voice. May the almighty avenge his death
20. Murder in Mumbai
Andy Smith ,   London, England   (11.30.08)
I am a Messianic Jew who believes in Yeshua which often means that I do not always sympathise with Chabad. However, like any Jew, I can only express revulsion at what was done in Mumbai to a rabbi, his wife and colleagues. I pray that Hashem wiill bring comfort to their orphaned son and that such anti-Semitism will one day end.
21. just shocking
dave ,   uk   (11.30.08)
why can only try and imagine the terror and pain that they went through
22. darker clouds form on the horizon
savage   (11.30.08)
Hear, oh Israel; awaken from your indifferent slumber, as the offensive beast is nigh to you.
23. Butchers
debbie ,   nola   (11.30.08)
Only the worst psychopaths could commit such atrocities.Terrorist is almost too nice a word.To murder parents in front of a 2 yr old-what kind of non-human butchers are capable of this???
24. 22 savage
davem ,   usa   (11.30.08)
Indifferent slumber? Is English your second language? have you no consideration? Or are you just totally insensitive? Keep your sophomoric profundities to yourself.
25. When will the 'religion of peace" RIP?
dr. dave ,   usa   (11.30.08)
26. were the other 190 ritually butchered ?
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27. #1,12,23 Some Comments on the Tragedy
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (11.30.08)
#1 I too was very affected by this terrible tragedy. Forgive the rabbi for speaking from his own grief--I was also gently chided by someone for referring to the Israelis and not everyone. You do have primary obligation to those closest to you under Judaism but nothing prevents you from mourning any Jew. #12 I would check antiterrorist sites and google the issues if I were you. Clearly there was a lot of confusion and we have not been told everything. Even these YNet Zaka quotes don't compute. If the three rabbonim (assuming the other mashgiach was also a rabbi) were in one room, where were the women? Sandra Samuels is reported both to have found the child outside her door and passed the bodies on her way out and also to have gone up to the second floor. How many floors in this building? Where was the Holtzberg's apt? #23 Not only were these atrocity-committers but very skilled and prepared murderers. According to reports, some from the surviving terrorist, they commandeered a boat, killed four crew, forced the captain to take them near shore, killed him, etc etc. They carried food supplies, credit cards, ammunition and grenades, two kinds of money, and used high tech devices for positioning. The kind of people who would murder parents in front of a two-year-old are the kind of people who would cut off someone's head with a rusty dull sword and videotape it, except better trained.
28. It has all the hallmarks of Al Qaeda
Zohan ,   Tel Aviv   (11.30.08)
The Indian Navy had a showdown with the Somali sea terrorists recently. Somali is a country taken over by Al Qaeda and soon the whole of the black continent. So, this attack is kinda reprisal of the Indian bravery for none of the ships captured put up a fight. I cannot believe the whole world is being held ransom by some primitive pirates. For sure the UN is going to do nutting
29. Islam's War Against The Jews and West
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (11.30.08)
Underlying this massacre is Islam's agenda to convert the world to their religion, theology, ideology and lifestyle. The West (i.e. Christianity and Judaism) are their enemies and, hence, their targets. This is nothing new. It is a continuation of 1400 years of conflict which is again flaring up, and rapidly. In one sense, it is understandable how a people "threatened" (the Moslems) protect and defend themselves. But, on the other hand, this is pure evil unleashed, and the most destructive wickedness. The World must adopt a zero-tolerance policy against Islam, as it has to Naziism, lest it destroy them. Man can raise himself to the level of an angel with G-dly kindness to his fellow human being, or lower himself into the depths of unspeakable, monstrous foulness unworthy of even the lowest beast.
30. It has to have all the hallmarks of Al Qaeda
observer   (11.30.08)
the Islamic militants in Somalia fought the pirates who hijacked the Saudi tanker in Somalia, and so did the Indian navy. So, it had to be Al Qaeda.
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