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Time to stop Peres
Adi Mintz
Published: 12.12.08, 00:42
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1. Presidents
dmgold ,   Auckland NZ   (12.12.08)
It seems that the office of President of the State of Israel has become an office specifically tasked with embarrassing both the State and the citizens of Israel. I say save some money and get rid of the office as it appears there are no longer any good men or women to fill this position or at least none that can rise up from the kenneset.
2. when u talk about peace..try to understand it
saher ,   gaza   (12.12.08)
ok there is aquestion, supose someone occupate ur house and ur parent's house and oneday he left you and stay in ur parent' house, will u say its ok with me let's my parente's deal with that??what u expect from us in gaza and arabs?? to shake hands and say go do what ever u want in west bank kill destroy arrest our families friends its ok with us ??while u dont give anything u got something, tell me when the last time u heard about (as u say suicides or terrorism attack inside ur cities)??surely its not intelligence which stoped it, but abbas and the palestinian outhrity did, abbas gathered guns bombs from the streets and u even dont admit it!! I realy wand abbas to leave and see how much security you have
3. Shimon Perez
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (12.12.08)
After the horrible mistakes he commited as a result of his total lack of vision, Peres should keep away of politics and Media. Only a peace process with the acceptance by the Arabs to be resettled in other Arab countries had a chance to bring peace to the region. Financial compensations would be the main reason for the Arabs to accept their resettlement. The best solution for the Arabs would be to leave the borders of “greater Israel,” so that Israel could then annex the West Bank and perhaps Gaza. Advancing this solution, daily, at any occasion, might creat a new perception and bring peace. Any different solution presents a risk of an endless war. For more details : http://xrl.us/bjcgx
4. Cheapest out
Jerrold Cohen ,   Seal Beach, USA   (12.12.08)
The Saudi peace initiative is the cheapest out for Israel, which actually should be either driven back to the 1947 borders originally assigned to it or simply kicked out of the UN as the worst international lawbreaker since 1948. So the Saudi initiative is bending over backward to accommodate a nation that does not deserve nationhood.
5. Peres
Carolyn ,   USA   (12.12.08)
He should have been put out to pasture before Oslo.He is a threat to all Jews, to all democracies, to all of Western Civilization. One cannot help but wonder what is he getting -how much- for this abominable treason, for that is what it is.
6. yes, just said that.
avi   (12.12.08)
http://shofar-ierushalaim.blogspot.com/
7. Another approval that Israel understand just force
hamuda ,   Gaza   (12.12.08)
The author did not want any peace initiative any Bushe's Road Map, so what he actually wants is war. This is that same what Hamas wants, Many Congratulations
8. #4
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (12.12.08)
Actually, Israel's "originally assigned" borders include Judea, Samaria, the Golan and what is now Jordan. These lands were stolen by the British Colonialist forces and given to the Arabs as a reward for fighting the Turks, for increasing British control of Middle East oil.
9. #4 again
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (12.12.08)
You have the right to believe anything you want including that the Jews, unlike humans, do not deserve a country. You are not be alone in this racist belief. However, we do not need to accept your belief. Even if the Saudis think they are bending over backwards, the "Saudi plan" still means genocide for the Jews and we do not need to volunteer to kill ourselves.
10. It's absurd not to know if it's really a peace proposal
Sam ,   Canada   (12.12.08)
What kind of peace proposal is this when Jews and non-Jews have to debate if it's really a peace proposal or not? If the Arabs are unwilling to clarify whether this plan leaves Israel's demography as it is then Israel should pay no attention to it. If the Arabs are unwilling to answer questions about the proposal then it's just propoganda to impress western countries that they are offering peace. It's absolutely absurd to say you accept or don't accept a proposal when you are not even sure what it means.
11. To Jerrold #4
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (12.12.08)
Hi Jerrold, I feel sorry for you! So much hate against Israel and anything that's Jewish and, by the end of the day, to realize that YOU ARE A JEW! Stop hating yourself, stop trying to run away from yourself. YOU ARE A JEW!
12. #2 Quit the propaganda!
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13. Quit the propaganda!
Freejew ,   Israel   (12.12.08)
This is a jewish house that you arabs came and squatted on. Not the other way around like you Arabs tell everyone. This land has, for most of its life, been called Judeah! Not PAlastine! You were murdering and attacking Jews before the state of ISrael was created. You dont want to live with Jews lije the other Israeli Arabs....you just want us destroyed. Your PA Charter clearly shows your intentions. All you guys do is play the victim for handouts, even though the world has already given billions in aid, with nothing to show for it! You allow Arafat to steal billions and say nothing! There is no PAlastine, and you have the choice of being Israeli arabs or get the hell out of the country!
14. Peres should stay out of politics
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (12.12.08)
Isn't the president supposed to stay out of politics. Why do they chose career politicians anyway. They used to appoints prominent scientists, artists or professors. That is how it should be.Peres should keep his mouth shut on political issues.
15. Why is Peres president?
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.12.08)
A sleezy deal between him & Olmert. No other reason. Could he be elected? Very unlikely. Is he respected? Not really. Do his views represent the country? Not at all. Do we value his opinions? Generally, his opinions are repudiated by a majority of citizens. Most people will be glad when he is no longer around. The fact of the matter is that Mr Peres as president is a symptom of what is wrong with Israeli politics.
16. Great article, but only skims the top.
Freejew ,   Israel   (12.12.08)
Peres was a good man when he first started in politics, but the dementia set in at an early age and he changed camp! Since then, the man has caused the indirect deaths of thousands of Israeli, through his stubborn insistence on appeasing our enemies that want us dead. He is not capable of admitting that OSlo was a failure and still pushes for the same suicidal path! He was not elected by the people, and should be in jail rather than in this position of influence that Olmert had placed him in. He has release thousands of terrorists for nothing in return. ALot of these terrorists have since killed Israelis, but the press keeps that hush! The guy is a traitor to Israel!
17. # 15 Come Now Don't Be Naive
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.12.08)
What Shimon wants ,Shimon gets and it matters not a jot who or what is in his way.The Don Corlione of Israel.If in doubt...follow money trail.
18. Peres And Carter Two Senile Alte-
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.12.08)
Kackers who can't take a hint.
19. Peres Is The King Of Israel
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.12.08)
Not Olmert who actually has compartively little power.i
20. What's Difference Between Peres And
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.12.08)
Coca-cola? ...People like Coca-cola.
21. # 20 LOL GOOD ONE!
Petra ,   USA   (12.12.08)
COCA COLA HAS FIZZ, PERES IS FLAT AND DULL.
22. The public should be able to vote in the Knesset
Zion   (12.12.08)
Any new law or plan should be first approved by the public, then by elected members, if the public rejects it, it doesn't go to the elected members.
23. Not happy with Peres as President? Why?
FO ,   Belgium   (12.12.08)
Do you forget he said: Kassamin schmassamim, what is all this hysteria about? Is this a reason not to love him? Do you forget that after "Oslo" he called the victims of terror attacks "the victims of peace".Is this a reason not to love him? Do you forget that he remains the only one today, to disapprove the bombing by Begin of tne nuclear reactor in Irak? Is this a reason not to love him? Be serious. I'm jocking of course.
24. #4
David ,   USA   (12.12.08)
Change your sir name. You are unworthy of it.
25. #7: Sorry - are we infringing on your patent for violence?
5th generation ,   Israel   (12.12.08)
26. to #4 Hey jamil you back again?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (12.12.08)
You ncan take the saudi plan and shove along with simple simon! Screw the saudis,the financers of world terrorism and hate. Without oil, they would be eating their sand. We will not follow that plan, we will not follow peres. We know peres is out to destroy Israel, because we voted against him so many times. He is only president due to a deal with olmert and was voted in by the knesset. They do not represent the people of Israel! Finally drop the "jerrold Cohen" name, you are a muslim and probably support terror.
27. Great Proposal for Israel...
Yoav ,   TEL-AVIV   (12.12.08)
Israel and all Jews should accept this fair and just propsal. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I guess we will continue to suffer and pay heavy price becuase of our hard headed fanatics. It's time for Israel to be peaceful nation and to accept living in peace with its neigbours. Enough of our suffering.
28. Miss leading forum!!!
Yoav ,   Tel-Aviv   (12.12.08)
I am shocked by the intellegent comments written here in the comment section. I see denied history, I see altered facts, I see hate, I see ignorance, and I see lies. And unfortunately they are coming from Jews and Israelies who are filled with hate and ignorance. Please people go to a different schooling system, may be you will see the truth....
29. To Freejew #13 and to all
Ari ,   Haifa   (12.13.08)
I think you a need a good course in History. Your history seems full with errors. Israel don't want any more palestinians to become "israeli arabs" otherwise israel would have annexed West Bank and Gaza. but ourselfishness doesn't allow to do that. We don't want to let them go and have their own country nor make them citizens of the state. We have terrorized them since 1967 so they leave the country and have the land for ourselves. But Israel underestimated the will the palestinians have may we should apply the hebrew saying "notthing stops before the will" or "if you have a will, there is always a way". Let's live in peace with our brethern the Palestinians..Let's not forget that they have guarded the land for thousands of years....
30. #13 try to read the history
saher ,   gaza   (12.13.08)
maybe u confused but u killed by hitler and natzi and you come here by something called Balfour agreement,a non owener land to a non deservable ppl,and the bilions u talk about destroyed by urs army and when u talk about victems we have more than 10000 killed by u? and i really hate hamas and iran but begun to like them
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