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Police: Charge Katsav with rape
Efrat Weiss
Published: 19.12.08, 13:29
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1. Rape
jeremy ,   hula valley kibbutz   (12.19.08)
Then arrest Katsav and charge him with rape. Show no leancy to this man
2. HOW MUCH DID THE WOMAN A. GET PAID TO ACCUSE KATSAV?
Tom ,   San Franscico, USA   (12.19.08)
It is obvious that the accusations made against Katsav are completely dishonest and that the woman who made them is either a sympathiser of the Labour party or has been paid to defame Katsav or is a liar. And all this shameful defamation against Katsav done by this shameful AG Mazuz, surely a strong sympathiser of the Labour party. Mazuz went on to accuse Olmert!! Both Olmert and Katsav were members of the Likud even though Olmert changed from a fervent member of the Likud to a fervent Labour sympathiser (Kadima is nothing less than Labour).
3. katsav finally going to trial-olmert soon to follow ?
katsav rapes women? ,   olmert rapes israel   (12.19.08)
we can only hope to see the last of such politicians that are only concerned about what they can take away from the public they were supposed to serve.
4. TRY HIM FOR RAPE ALREADY!
Petra ,   USA   (12.19.08)
HIS OFFICE CANNOT SAVE HIM. POLITICS HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ A MONSTER. REMOVE HIM QUICKLY AND SEND HIM TO JAIL. OLMERT SHOULD BE TRIED AS WELL. THEY ARE AN EMBARASSMENT TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
5. the real loser is...
eliezre ,   jerusalem   (12.19.08)
the justice department and courts, the police and the people of Israel. We have seen not that justice is blind, but blinding justice with favoritism and political consideration.
6. Mazuz show some guts charge Katsav & olmert
zionist forever   (12.19.08)
I would like to chalange Mazuz to throw the book at the man, he did for the presidency what Olmert did for the premiership. Katsav was forced to resign he didnt choose to, he cut a deal with Mazuz admited to sexual harrasment charges and in return got a suspended sentence in addition to that he gets at taxpayer expense. A luxury car Offices in Tel Aviv & he recently moved to even more expensive ones. A private secretary Security provided by Shin Bet. All that plus his generous presidents pension. Lets find a cell for Katsav with room for two so he can share it with Olmert then they can both have long talks about how they damaged the country and why they are both in jail.
7. Where is the DNA evidence on something? Oh! There is none.
Rivkah   (12.19.08)
That means anyone can be accused rightly or wrongly long after the supposed or actual indicent without critical evidence. Joseph in the Bible went to prison for 13 years for RUNNING from a seducer who grabbed hold of his garment and then accused him of rape. Be very careful about charging and convicting a person wrongly because that can bring judgment on the whole country for the misuse of God's authority. What Aleph should do if she was really wronged is to ask the Lord to avenge her since there is no critical DNA evidence. The Bible says vengeance belongs to God. When I ask God to avenge me for a terrible wrong, a catastrophe hits the family of the guilty a few years later OR there are weather judgments like a drought on the area of authority that was misused.
8. Response to Tom-- Rape charges
jeremy ,   hula valley   (12.19.08)
Tom, I don't know where you came up with the stuff you wrote here. The rape charges have nothing to do with politics or what ever party, is involved as you say. However, a lot of these politicians including Labourites, which I am not one, I am right wing, use their position in power to sexually abuse women. Look at Hiam Ramon, he forcable kissed an 18 year old girl
9. CHARGE KATZAV ALREADY, WHAT R WE WAITING FOR??
Yossi ,   Israel   (12.19.08)
10. Bring him down
russel ,   tlv   (12.19.08)
Bring them all down. Katsav; Olmert, Chaim Ramon... bring them in chains to the courthouse. Let Israel stand proud once more.
11. Remove the monkeys
Efroim ,   Washington DC   (12.19.08)
The monkeys in office need to be taken out. The whole world is watching what is going on. Israel needs to function like an exemplary country not some backward 3rd world caveland.
12. What the Israeli media machine says - the opposite is true
Scott ,   Haifa   (12.19.08)
I trust the Israeli media and system as far as I can throw them. Someone owns them, they are bought and paid for. I've seen what they can do.
13. Israelis=Sheep
Daniel Rossi ,   USA   (12.19.08)
You always follow. You always believe the nonsense you are fed. THERE WAS NEVER A RAPE!!! I know "A", and if the media showed A to the world, everyone would know there was no rape. Open your eyes. And don't rush to judgement.
14. A horney Israeli president...
(12.19.08)
Will pay for his misdeed. He thought he might get away with it like Clinton did, but he miscalculated because in the case of Clinton it was consentual.
15. #13
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (12.19.08)
In this case it is not sheep, it is Left against Right. The Left accuse Katzav of rape and don't care how real rape victims will be affected. The Right believes Katzav has been set-up.
16. Zionist eats each other:Katsav trial is a fabricated crime
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (12.19.08)
At first glance Woman claiming rape give consent to sexual relation for long. If it was one or at most two times It may be a rape case but she keeps silent for long and continue eating the carrot I think it was not a few day but a few years -it is in fact regular relation, woman could left her job or leave the position but she did not . SIMPLY IT IS A POLITICALY FABRICATED ACCUSITION AND ZIONIST STARTED TO EAT EACH OTHER!
17. KATSAV IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY! NOT IN ISRAEL?!!
Tom ,   San Franciso, USA   (12.19.08)
Jeremy, YOU, ENGLISH SPEAKING READERS LIVING IN ISRAEL, DOES "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" MEAN NOTHING ANYMORE TO YOU AS SOON AS YOU SET YOUR FEET ON THE LAND OF ISRAEL? YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED TO WANT TO ACCUSE KATSAV WITHOUT GIVING HIM THE RIGHT TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE!!! AND WITHOUT WAITING FOR A JUDGMENT TO BE GIVEN. SHAME ON YOU!!! I am convinced that the gang Mazuz and company will fail to prove Katsav guilty of anything you and the Israeli press have invented so far (should I say this shameful A. woman)!! I don't live in Israel and I seem to have a better grasp than you of the Labour role the newspapers in Israel play, as they are nothing less than a substitute for the Labour party!!! The media in Israel is mainly pro-Labour and they are so manipulative! The worse is that the Israelis buy their propaganda like if it was medecine to them!! The media in Israel are responsible for accepting defeatist policies (Oslo agreements, leaving Jewish territories, soon leaving the Golan, etc.) First, all the media in Israel and even on the Internet (Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, Ynet, etc.) are pro-Labour. Second, all this pretense of justice by Mazuz is pure deception simply to further Mazuz's own Labour agenda in the name of Justice!!! Who could possibly be blind to who Mazuz is and from what political party (Labour) his allegiance is? Only Israelis I guess!!
18. katzav
sas ,   israel   (12.20.08)
he belnged behind bars monthsssssssss/yearsssssssssss ago. the man is SICK.
19. Case should be closed
reader   (12.20.08)
What a farce the media are building up once again... But why this confrontation had to take place at all if the woman's version is so reliable as it is claimed? And what about those phone calls and letters? Why did she ask for a job in the President's bureau in Beit Hanassi? And how many years ago did those "facts" alleged by the woman happen? Why the part of the Prosecutor's Offices's statement describing the difficulties and contradictions has to be kept secret? Two years and a half were more than enough of this media incitement against the former President! Yes, it is believable that there is sufficient evidence! SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE PROVING THAT MR. KATSAV IS INNOCENT!
20. # 17 Tom do you hate women?
Petra ,   usa   (12.20.08)
your argument is void of any sanity, pal. No woman would embarass herself w/ false charges you dolt. Not even 'political' women. Are you foolish by nature or by design? Gimme a break you argue like a fag. Would you agrue so idiotically if men were raped? Probably not, you'd be jealous it wasn't you.
21. # 19 Reader it might interest you to know
Petra ,   USA   (12.20.08)
that a young girl wrote to Santa Claus to ask for help from a relative 'touching' her and her sister. The 'relative' had committed these acts of incest on the two girls for several years. HE BEGAN THE RAPING WHEN ONE GIRL WAS 5. He's now arrested. A school employee. Why would any woman make false charges? So idiots like you could make them invalid? What an ass you are and thankfully, so public as to make everyones stomach turn. Ever hear of Clarence Thomas? Anita Hill also had 'contact' w/ him as an employee. PROTECT WOMEN AND KIDS FROM ALL RAPISTS!!!! THE KIDS WERE ALSO SILENT FOR YEARS AND I'M SURE THEY HAD DAILY 'CONTACT' W/ THEIR RAPIST. WHERE'S YOUR BRAIN? WATCHING PORNO TILL YOU DON'T KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG?
22. prez rape
rich ,   pittsburgh, pa, usa   (12.20.08)
cant trust anybody anymore ! youtube.com/goldieshome
23. 7 con't: There is a condition for Aleph for God to listen to
Rivkah   (12.20.08)
her if she turns to the Lord as the judge to avenge her. God does not listen to sinners who have not repented and departed from their sins. If Aleph is innocent and Mr. Katsav is guilty of a crime against the Torah, then the Lord will decide who in his family is the guilty party who drove him to do such a thing and that is the likely person to die in judgment. When King David misused his authority and a child was conceived with Bat'sheva and her husband died in battle at David's direction, God held the unborn child accountable and the child died. The child went to heaven and not to hell, so the child did not suffer much. If God holds the person who is guilty accountable, that person dies within a year I have noticed. There were other factors in this case and Mr. Katsav was not held accountable alone for whatever happened. Who will die? Will it be someone behind the scenes directing this charade? Will it be Mrs. Katsav who may have driven her husband to another woman? Will it be one of their children who was the upsetting factor? Will it be Aleph who dies as being judged by God as the guilty one? When a matter is turned over to the Lord, the outcome is just but uncertain.
24. 21 Petra: You ask why any woman would make false charges...
Rivkah   (12.20.08)
Revenge, jealousy, getting paid to lie. There are many reasons why people lie. You presented an example of a child victim. Let me give you an example of two adult Hispanic females who framed a man who had an affair with one of them and then would not leave his wife to marry the girlfriend. The girlfriend and her female friend called the police and said the man raped! both of them. The girlfriend had taken semen from her lover and put some into her friend to be more believeable. The man who had sinned but not raped either of them, went to prison for many years. Another Hispanic woman I tried to help falsely accused her husband of putting a gun to her chin so she could divorce him and get custody of the children that she kidnapped from Malaysia (Noel Gonzales) from their father (Dhenish Douglas Dharan) who followed her to America which would not honor a Malaysian court order to return the children. People lie. Why did Potiphar's wife lie and say Joseph in the Bible raped her? He was innocent, but she was not. No Lie MRI detector tests should be given to people who accuse others, to protect the innocent. Even children lie and frame people when they don't get what they want. So do parents, to protect guilty children. Rape of children and women does happen and it is horrific. But fale accusations also occur and must be exposed. In the Bible, a false accuser who is exposed must suffer the penalty of the crime that was lied about. A false accuser was stoned to death in ancient times.
25. 7 cont'd: The reason a child could die in judgment of a
Rivkah   (12.21.08)
parent's sin is that the child could have caused the sin. When my sister Martha stayed with my in-laws in California after she graduated from college in Arizona and was looking for a job, she destroyed my husband's mother's marriage with a single comment. She asked my husband's stepfather how old he was. 45 was the answer. Martha then commented, That is Soooo Old. That comment shattered the ego of a 45 year old man who then abandoned his wife and stepson and three natural sons for a floozy named Carrie who made him feel younger. He did not live long and died shortly after that because what he did was a sin unto death. But God could have held my sister accountable and she would have died. But instead, the Lord caused her to have a miserable marriage from hell for thirty years until her husband died.
26. The sins of the fathers are visited upon the children to the
Rivkah   (12.21.08)
third and fourth generation of those who hate God. In King David's case, his sin was visited upon his child (death) and he LOVED the Lord. But at least it stopped with the early death of one child instead of three and four generations of his children. Peace was also taken from David's house. Believe me, if Mr. Katsav is guilty, he will suffer. If Aleph is guilty and set him up or is lying, she will suffer. God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man/woman sows, that is what he/she reaps.
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