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We can always conquer Gaza
Yossi Beilin
Published: 23.12.08, 00:22
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1. Totally moronic rant
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.23.08)
Yossi shutup and go away. You are too stupid to see the real solution. We already are not responsible for Gaza. Hamas must be engaged and defeated as some as possible. Appeasing terrrorists never works.
2.  hope Jesus will bless this lovely man
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (12.23.08)
Beilin is the most peace loving man I know. He is a peace maker the same as my seviour Jesus the prince of peace.
3. Can israel always conquer lebanon?
Ari   (12.23.08)
not now....
4. beilin thinks Oslo is working just fine, no sense at all.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (12.23.08)
5. Export this garbage Beilin to Ramallah
beilin = garbage ,   USA   (12.23.08)
6. You failed Israel Israel before. No thanks!
Mike ,   Mike - Los Angeles   (12.23.08)
Mr Beilin, your comment that the 'Gaza lull saves lives', is as shortsighted as were many of your political views and actions (Oslo?). What price must we pay in the long term, if your prognositcations are monumnetally wrong - as your track record so damningly shows. No thanks.
7. A Peace Deal With The PLO?
gloomboom.com ,   Nashville USA   (12.23.08)
Are you crazy? Did you learn nothing from Arafat? You need to stop the rockets now!
8. Shut up and go away
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.23.08)
This blabbering idiot belongs in a padded cell.
9. What???
Jeffrey ,   Boston   (12.23.08)
"Israel has no pressing reason at this time to embark on war with Hamas" What kind of a suicidal maniac would say there is no reason to defend oneself or one's citizens? Even the Bible excuses killing if it is in the act of self defense! This author is pathetic.
10. Yossi
Yosh ,   US   (12.23.08)
Do I err in assuming Yossi does not reside in Sderot ?
11. Israel has no pressing reason at this time to embark on war
David Feigenbaum ,   Netanya, Israel   (12.23.08)
After Mr. Beilin lives in Sderot with his family for a month let him make this asinine statement. Why do you print what this failed appeaser has to say?
12. Makes the Geneva Accord all that more irrelevant
JPS ,   Efrat   (12.23.08)
Beilin continues to ignore reality and think that Israel can simply sign a peace treaty with the PLO to create the independent state of Palestine in the west bank. But this leaves the independent stateless enclave of Gazastan or Hamastan in the Gaza Strip. And, with Hamas in control of the PA legislature and most likely the PA presidency in another month or two, it renders more or less totally useless Beilin's entire premise of peace with a Fatah controlled Palestinian entity. Fatah no longer controls the Palestinians. The Fatah leadership never bothered to end their incipient corruption. They've done little to convince the Palestinian populace that they could run a country. On the other hand, Hamas has pretty much shown that it couldn't run a modern country if it tried, however, Hamas is happy to run a welfare state funded by Iran. Beilin, it seems, simply can't deal with the reality of the situation not jiving with his wishes for peace. We all wish for peace, but not at a price that almost guarantees a future war.
13. yah keep lying to yourselves
observer   (12.23.08)
your not going into gaza because you are chickens and you know you will lose so you make all the excuses in the world, yet you know the truth: you can't win. Hamas is stronger plain and simple.
14. qassams are not a reason ????
cordier   (12.23.08)
Sderot people will appreciate.... Yossi Beilin is responsible for this mess. The 1200 jews people killed by his "partners for peace" are the results of his "post zionist" vision of an future palisrael which he dreams...
15. #2 your peaceful man caused more DEATH THEN THE ARABS COULD
AND HE IS DEAD ALSO ,   THATS FUNNY TOO   (12.23.08)
YOU ARE LUCKY YNET IS A LEFT WING NEWS SERVICE FOR THEM TO POST YOU.. LOL AND YOU CELEBRATE DEATH TO OTHERS BY MAKING QUEEN ISABELLA A SAINT .. FOR KILLING MILLIONS... TRY THE MICKEY MOUSE CLUB... YOU GET TO WEAR THOSE EARS.. MAKES YOU LOOK INTELLIGENT DACON9 YA AINT GETTIN TO HEAVEN WITH YOUR MAN GODS by the way..get a real xtian name dont insult our jewish hertage use chistopher or georgie or jon or tommy maybe you like mary? i dont know, do you?
16. No pressing reason???!?!?
Boaz ,   Haifa   (12.23.08)
I am sure you would think differently if you were living in the Negev and getting rockets launched at you daily...but oh yeah i forgot you are too busy sipping on your fruppochino to care about how others
17. Most Israeli problems are the result of the Oslo accords.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (12.23.08)
The lull in Gaza, like the Oslo Accords with Mr Arafat, is proving to be a fiction, but the Israeli government doesn't understand that yet, and neither does the world. There will never be a "good" time for fighting Hamas. The ability of Hamas to inflict casualties is small. If we can eliminate Hamas, now is the time to do it. Six months ago was much better. As to Hamas grip on Gaza consult : http://xrl.us/oxtnj
18. The Oslo Agreements were born in sin and brought only ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (12.23.08)
The Oslo Agreements were born in sin and brought only death, pain and sorrow… After the horrible mistakes they commited as a result of their total lack of vision, Peres and Beilin should keep away of politics and Media. Only a peace process with the acceptance by the Arabs to be resettled in other Arab countries had a chance to bring peace to the region. Financial compensations would be the main reason for the Arabs to accept their resettlement. The best solution for the Arabs would be to leave the borders of “greater Israel,” so that Israel could then annex the West Bank and perhaps Gaza. Advancing this solution, daily, at any occasion, might creat a new perception and bring peace. Any different solution presents a risk of an endless war. For more details : http://xrl.us/bjcgx
19. Look who's talking
Sam ,   Ramat Gan   (12.23.08)
Oslo was not enough a catastroph and didn't bring enough deads in Israel. For sure, when you are living in Tel Aviv, some few rockets falling in the western Neguev are not a "pressing reason" to act. Who cares, after all, huh ? No qassam fell on kikar rabin yet, so everything's fine, let's go on sleeping. SHAME ON YOU BEILIN !
20. We are UNDER ATTACK, Beilin, that's a PRESSING REASON
Daniel ,   Formerly Israel   (12.23.08)
WE TOLD YOU, Beilin. We told you fifteen years ago "Don't leave Gaza or they'll fire rockets at Ashkelon. Benny Begin, Moshe Arens, David Levy, they all told you this, and you said they were against peace. Do you call this peace?
21. Thanks for compliment DEAKON9
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (12.23.08)
My real name is James, but I use Yaakov because I love the Bible and all gospels. Yes. I consider myself a Jew because Jesus my seviour was a Jew. I also consider myself an Arab because my husband is an Arab. I love Moslem culture and especially Lebani hummus. I also learn belly dancing and practice this dance often ( my husband hassan thinks I am pretty good. God bless Beilin, he is a fan of bally dancing too.
22. it seems like the left is too scared to do anything
Michael   (12.23.08)
Leftists' will never find an acceptable reason to attack Gaza. John Lock the 18th century British philosopher said, Government's first responsibility is to protect its citizens. After 7 years of do nothing ,why is the author making a statement he would never consider as a rational option?
23. Why bother to comment on this crap?
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.23.08)
Does what Yossi Belin says mean anything? Fine, he caused a great deal of damage to the country in the past. He is trying his best to continue to do damage. But the number of people that fall for his BS is now marginal - his audience, aside from a few cranks here in Israel, is mainly over-seas. I saw the article earlier & didn't bother to comment. I'm not writing this TB to reply to Mr Beilin - his opinions are as valid to me as someone from the Flat Earth Society. Would you bother to answer someone who thinks the earth is flat? Lunatics like Mr Beilin are not the real problem anymore. Our real problem is with those considered ''centrists'' - ''mainstream'' - ''reasonable'' - and who are now sitting in the cabinet in positions of authority. Ignore Mr. Beilin, he is irrelevent.
24. What a fool. In any normal country he'd be long gone.
Yonatan ,   Los Angeles   (12.23.08)
25. what a load of balls number 2
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26. Dreamer
Allenby   (12.23.08)
This poor man sees himself as a REALISTIC one. He is a dangerous dreamer. Can 't he see that the Palestinian Authority is more dangerous to Israel then Hamas ?
27. OH Israel... They are coming:(
LB ,   Australia   (12.23.08)
As an outsider watching from a distance for 8 months.... I see Iran calling to arms in a silent manner to all Arabs... Syeria a little frightened, trying to keep Israel happy whilst in alliance with Iran! Lebinonon =Hezbillar media talks with Israel but in the background in talks with fellow Arab countries GAZA, OH Yes GAZA... Hamas is keeping you all busy whilst they rally together in the background.... Russia...... has a hidden agenda with them all.. ISRAEL.... Do not rely on the US.... the economy is crumbling...they are struggling... Prepare for another Yom Kippur war...... Jewish people call to arms in secret.... they are coming for you:(
28. Beilin hutzpah
Frank ,   Canada   (12.23.08)
This guy is the primary responsible for what going on in Gaza because before Oslo, Arab terror was shelling Israel. Leftists are so idiotic that they are not able to draw lessons from their failures. Beilin must be put on trial for its crimes against Israelis.
29. #2-yaacov sullivan
Arie ,   BaGolan   (12.23.08)
Your 'saviour' condemns your gay lifestyle and damns you to eternal hell. Or did you overlook that part of your scriptures?
30. To yaakov and deakon9
Arie ,   BaGolan   (12.23.08)
Yaakov: Does your 'husband' know about the exchanges and do you think it' proper outside a dating site?
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