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Blood on our hands
Shulamit Aloni
Published: 05.01.09, 19:22
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61. Aloni, a ghost from the past, but what past exactly?
Moshe   (01.05.09)
62. shulamit aloni - be ashamed of yourself!
frank taylor ,   netanya israel   (01.05.09)
ms aloni should be ashamed of herself! she sounds just like those foreign reporters who tell of innocent men women and children who get killed, but omit the fact that they live in the same apartment block from which the hamas are either lobbing over the rockets or, worse still, using the building as an arms chache.
63. So the people can vote Hamas in and wash their hands of it?
Doron Katz ,   Sydney, Australia   (01.05.09)
64. #48 Agree with you Tricia
Australian Guy   (01.05.09)
65. Ploni Aloni
David Feigenbaum ,   Netanya, Israel   (01.05.09)
Why do you even print what this failed politician says?
66. shulamit aloni:blood on our hands
abraham ,   greater jerusalem   (01.05.09)
i suggest to the respectable lady to check the palestinian hands she is alking as if our neighbours are swiss and not barbarian fanatics who bomb our civilians with barbarians act like barbarians
67. #36--Be fair to Chamberlain
David ,   Montreal, Canada   (01.05.09)
Unlike Aloni-Balony, Chamberlain admitted that he was wrong once the war started. He supported the war effort 100% and served in the war cabinet, essentially until his death in 1940.
68. IDIOCY OF YOU FOLKS POSTING THIS GARBAGE
AMENOTEP ,   CANADA   (01.05.09)
WHAT IN THE NAME OF COMMON SENSE TO YOU FELLOWS PUBLISH THIS GARBAGE FOR? DO YOU SEE YOUR ENEMY DOING SOMETHING IDIOTIC AS THIS? SOMEONE LIKE THIS IDIOT BELONGS IN THE ENEMY CAMP, NOT IN ISRAEL. AND THE IDIOCY OF POSTING THIS IS TOTALLY BIZARE!!!
69. hey old fool,shut up and support our nation
reuven ,   usa   (01.05.09)
it is no time to argue.our boys doing what macabies would do.G-d bless them.we know our leadership was a fool up to now, but they woke up and may be able to do the job right this time. and you should resign with olmert soon.you are too old
70.  Any civiilan causualties are regrettable.
ALB ,   Canada   (01.06.09)
Betting many of the "casualties" are fabricated ones .Can you really believe Hamas, they can easily fake them or give exaggerated numbers. Second if Hamas would come out and fight like men and not hide behind women and children we coudl much better assist them to get to their heaven and give them their much touted martyrdom. How can you fight cowards who hide behind civilians? I have a simple solution to the rocket problem. Its unfortunately not the high moral road but the terrorists certainly don't care about who they target ,in fact they go out of their way to kill innocent civilians with their suiciide bombers and random rocket fire and of course the UN does nothing. about that paper lion that it is. My simple solution. Move up Israel artillery close to Gaza and fire it into their cities at random. You can be "porportionate " and if they fire say 20 rockets you fire 20 rounds at them. And you make no bones about the fact that it is random and may or may not kill indescriminately. Then let the joke that is the UN stop both sides from firing on each other.Or let Hamas stop firing. This also means no Israeli soldiers will be lost. I also doubt the current campaign will do anything in the long run to stop Hamas. And have to add that israel needs to hire some better PR people. Hamas are very good at PR.
71. Earth To Shula
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (01.05.09)
Even a non-military nothing like me knows war is horrible and cruel but...rather them than us.No need to say sorry for surviving,especially in this cruel region.
72. Be Quiet Damn Woman
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (01.05.09)
Thank G-d for the I,D,F and our brave commanders.They are all that stands between Israeli civilians and another 6 million dead Jews.
73. International Law Says that Blood is on Hamas' Hands
Logic ,   Israel   (01.05.09)
International law states that terror groups who operate from civilian quarters are guilty of "perfidy" and are responsible for any civilian casualties on their side. Obviously, Hamas commits double war crimes by behaving this way and by raining missles purposely on Israeli civilians.
74. Move her from Haifa to Sderot
Massouda ,   Monte Carlo, Monaco   (01.05.09)
Maybe if Ms. Aloni moved to Sderot from Haifa she would change her mind.
75. Any one w/one eye&half a brain can figure out this woman is
a few fries short of ,   a Happy Meal!!!!!   (01.06.09)
76. Blood on Out Hands
Daniel Shaffer ,   Boston, USA   (01.06.09)
I understand your pity for Palestinians. It is indeed a disgrace that innocent civilians and especially children die, during any conflict and not just this one. But is the blood really on Israeli hands? Is it not Hamas that chooses to fire their rockets from schools and other civilian areas? They know that civilian deaths at the hands of our army will spark criticism and condemnation from humanitarians. But their aim is not to scare the army from firing at terrorists. They know very well that Israel will respond anyways. They know that those civilians they use as 'shields' will die. In fact, their aim is to kill those innocents. Why? Because people like yourself will react and protest against Israel. For them it is no longer a war for land or freedom, it is more of a show where human lives are used to boost their rating. Israel hosts some of the most humane people on Earth, your article being a testament to that, and there are protests within the country. But those protests are a victory for Hamas, and as they see that, they will continue to put the lives of innocents, sometimes their own children, on the line. If you have any pity for those children, you should condemn Hamas, not the Israeli army which so far has tried to minimize the civilian death toll with some success. 300 might seem like a large number, but there are 1.5 million people in Gaza, and the army can easily destroy most of them was it their aim. Compare the number to that of missiles launched by Israel and you will see that it took more than one to kill a single person. Less efficient than a knife, in terms of killing. Still, the war has to go on, not because we like it, but because this is the only way to bring the end to Hamas' evil and peace to both Israelis and Palestinians. As we have seen, negotiations and truces don't work with them. Not surprising, since they don't risk their lives, but rather kill their own brothers to get more money from humanitarian support. I hate war as anyone would, but avoiding it in this situation will only bring more pain and death.
77. What a shameful pathetic fool she is...
Craig ,   USA   (01.06.09)
What a shame to all Jews... What about wanting your whole race wiped from the face of the earth don't you understand? Some people can never be brought to understand that Islamics are not like Jews...period. The time for talk has past. The time for Palestinians to realize that acts (like electing terrorist murderers) have consequences. Maybe the so-called Palestinians won't be so quick to cheer the next time innocent Jewish blood is spilled...knowing that their are real men still in Israel who will retaliate the intentional targeting of civilians. Let the Palestinians lie in the bed they willingly chose.
78. Shulamit,It is your answer
e.m.Jordan is Palest ,   s.f   (01.05.09)
We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children; we can not forgive them for forcing us to kill their children, we will only have peace with Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us. Golda Meier
79. Good job you are not a 'palestinian'....
Truth Hertz ,   UK   (01.05.09)
They do not tolerate collaborators the way that we do!
80. Yes, we are saddened for the blood, but we must save our own
L ,   Elad, Israel   (01.06.09)
"The (Torah authority) Meshech Chochma (Shemos 12:16) ...(states): "Purim is not celebrated on the anniversary of the victory against our enemies. Am Yisroel does not rejoice over the downfall and death of its foes. We celebrate Pesach because we were saved, not because our enemies perished, and we rejoice and read the Megillah on the day that we rested, the day after the war, when no one died, but we were saved."
81. To Mike #54. DUTY Of the Government Of Israel.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (01.06.09)
You say :” This is not the first time that Israel has blood on its hands and it will not be the last time.” Mike, you fire INDISCRIMINATEDLY Kassam rockets and mortars on UNARMED civilians of Sderot, other places in Israel. IT will be the DUTY of the Government of Israel to hit back at the persons launching those rockets and mortars. SO, you fire rockets / mortars at Israel -- you will HAVE to face the CONSEQUENCES. You say :” This is not the first time (that Israel RESPONDS to terrorist attacks) !” You are BLOODY right !
82. To TKH #39. I fully endorse your TB.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (01.06.09)
83. Thrilled to see Aloni's ranting here....
Roscio ,   Rome, Italy   (01.06.09)
This will remind people of why Meretz deserves to vanish forever from Israeli politics. Self-serving idealogues like this, who do not give a damn for Israel's security or for Jewish lives, deserve to be "disengaged" from any leadership positions in Israel. It is Aloni's cabal that has Jewish blood on its hands, after the debacles of Oslo and the Gaza pull-out. When election time comes, please remind others of this seditious article written while brave Jewish youth are risking their lives for Israel's future. Meretz and Kadima - Never Again!
84. And now, here's a refreshing counter-view:
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (01.06.09)
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2Y2ZjQ1YTM2ZjFmODM3NzIyZDU1NDgyZTZlNzc1N2E= A very insightful article by someone who's not even Jewish.
85. Aloni
Dr John ,   Rechovot Israel   (01.06.09)
Why ALWAYS blame Israel for the plight of the arabs as Aloni always did & still does. She now has that other "Paragon of virtue" Galon spewing the same self hate. Dont they ever wonder why , for instance Egypt does nothing to help its arab bretheren Their hospitals are quite capable of taking ALL the wounded. But they refuse. I hear no word of critizisum from Alloni! Only of Israel" Who needs enemies when we have Shulamit & Zahava!!!!!
86. #13, ELEANOR: U ROCK!!!!!!!!
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (01.05.09)
87. WITH JEWS LIKE THIS, WE DON'T NEED ARABS!
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (01.05.09)
88. YNET should not give stage to idiots
I. Barr ,   USA   (01.06.09)
Aloni complains that "So why didn’t we, throughout the lull period, engage in direct or indirect dialogue in order to extend the truce or secure a better agreement". This is an overt lie. Hamas never wanted to have any negotiations with Israel. They refused dialogue and violated indirect, through Egypt, agreements. On Dec 19 they declared the "truce" void. Aloni is a pathological liar. YNET should not give her, obscure singers from UK, irrelevant poets from Israel. At a time of war this is unacceptable.
89. reply
Faysal Haddad ,   Houston,Texas   (01.06.09)
Dear Miss Aloni, this is very refreshing to see some isrealis that do not support this war against Gaza, actualy i hope the majority do not. I have said many times in every country the few nuts and zellots make it hard for all of us normal people ,these zellots and greedy people who are looking for the glory of the chair, as being any important position in a goverment. I just refuse to believe that the average israelie is claping for all the children,women who are getting killed everyday. It is easy to make an enemy, it is hard to make friend, also be nice to the people on your way up because you will see them onyour way down. I think Israel need to follow the Marshal Plan which instead of penalizing the people of gaza just help them, then Hamas will fall apart like cheap suit, when prosperity, appourtinity and education enter the door , revolution get out of the window. Yes you are the strongest now but for how long, 10,100 years, US and Eroupe support Israel because they are using Israel as the big bully, they are not giving Israel the right advise in addition there are so many money made from arm sale to the middle east many people have no interests in seeing peace in the middle east not counting the zellots from the three religions. As my dad told me do not trust the persons who smile and agree with you all the time., the person who screamed at you and slap you on your hand and correct you when you make a mistake that is the one you trust. As an American syrian I pray to god that will open everyone eyes and end this stupid conflict that can be solved over a falafel pita and a plate of homus, just keep the politicians and the generals and the religious zellots out of the room. i
90. Shulamit is Wise. Shulamit is Great.
MeretzIsGood   (01.06.09)
She should be given more space to express her ideas. Without dealing with Hamas for a moment, we should have a solid, sane, secular Knesset. The public should be enlightened not to vote in the extreme right and left but center left and center right, to govern intelligently, caring equally for Israel and for our neighbors.
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