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Livni warns of rift with US after elections
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 25.01.09, 07:29
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31. It is time to put faith in Hashem not in Bush/Obama/Mitchell
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah   (01.25.09)
32. livni
arlene ,   israel   (01.25.09)
if u look at her running mates (nachman shai for example) she has people with all different ideas and they will paralize her completely. plus she is so PARVE that no one really knows what she actually believes in.
33. livni
fcd ,   israel   (01.25.09)
she should go home with CONDI -her best friend.
34. 24.....good point!
Sara ,   Israel   (01.25.09)
Netanyahu knows even with teeth he is putty against a world which stands quite united against us. I am positive this is why he won't debate. When PUSH COMES TO SHOVE WE GET PUSHED. We thought the man of iron Sharon would stand up for us. Goodness, we put our faith and tears and hopes in him! Now look, he too was more interested in world opinion and coddling the enemies than doing the right thing. I agree fully with Lior, the train left the station. It will literally take lightning strikes to change the tide which has turned against us. If we are to think for one moment the world cares for us we are gravely mistaken. All this crap about Iran not having enough nuke material is immaterial. No one has done a damn thing to stop them. Why do you think Bush turned down our request for long range aircraft? Bush who was our supposed friend did this!!! They all mouth, "never again", they all chatter about our saftey, but they don't mean it. Not for a moment.
35. #28 Lior, Israel. Two points ......
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (01.25.09)
I was just re-reading an article on the Gaza Op in The Economist & curious to see the reaction to a comment I had posted a few days ago. My comment, which had appeared for several days, was deleted. There are 70 or so other comments posted, a great many of them of an outright anti-Semitic nature which of course were not deleted. Other publications, such as The Times of London, will not post my comments at all. We are being buried in propaganda & the distortion of history - We opened the door to this at Oslo - we are indeed our own worst enemy. There is an expression, ''weather the storm'' which is appropriate to our circumstances. But to ''weather the storm'' requires tough, realistic leadership. Obama will not be president forever - and my opinion is that he will be a failure like Jimmy Carter. We can resist pressure for four years. But the concessions we would likely make with Kadima & Livni at the helm will be irreversible.
36. Dear Israeli electors: get rid of Livni and Kadima
Avi ,   Geneva   (01.25.09)
before they wipe Israel off the map of the world. Not only do not vote them into government, but keep them out of the knesset forever more. They are a danger to the survival of this nation. Only by proudly asserting your ancestral right to the whole land of Israel, as its true indigenous people, and refuse to yield to the moslem-arab imperialism and colonialism, or the pressure and blackmail of their allies, in the US, Europe and elsewhere, will you have a chance of survival. When attacked, fight back - don't surrender in advance, out of fear of losing. If you are then defeated - G-d forbid - at least you will be able to stand proud to have fought back like dignified human beings. Be strong and confident!
37. Terry # 35
Lior ,   Israel   (01.25.09)
Oh boy are you singing!!! The world does not want to hear it even when it is said. The blinders are stuck, on purpose might I add. Once again, we know the real reason why. When our families were sending the signals back in the 30's the world too was silent. They all saw it, they all knew the reasons why and yet in a very perverted manner they choose to ignore it. Just Jews after all. The world is better without Jews even though the world uses our expertise in every shape way and manner. The leftists, knee jerk Jews amongst us have failed to accept those reasons so they took on the practice of using their humanity as a crutch as a hand extended. Little did they realize they were extending a hand to those who seek to destroy us. And they will. I was raised in this manner. How well I know. I would very much like to speak with you. How is this possible?
38. No, the sad truth is..
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah   (01.25.09)
B"H No, the sad truth is that Netanyahu will give away more Land more easily for more terror than Livni. There is no way now to stop the destruction of the Democratic Republic of Israel. Hopefully, G-d willing, from this ugly and corrupt Zionist State seed will grow the beautiful Torah Kingdom plant that with its functioning Har HaBait on the Temple Mount and with our Sanhedrin fully reinstated will be a shining light onto the nations. These are the institutions Jews told to establish in the Land and we said "Yes, we'll do" under Mount Sinai, where Hashem elected us and we elected Hashem as our eternal King. New and periodic elections maybe good for the nations and for the Hellenists but if we want to survive as Jews we have to say NO to them. At a time when even our rabbis are silent, it is each Jew's individual responsibility to maintain our ancient way and keep our ancient Land. See thetorahrevolution.blogspot.com, jewishyisrael.org
39. #36 Well said, Avi!
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (01.25.09)
Now come home.
40. #37 Lior, Israel.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (01.25.09)
Lior, I can easily be found on the Eilat beachfront at Aroma, I'm the old guy wearing a red carnation & obscured by a cloud of cigarette smoke. More seriously, you might ask Ynet to release to you my e-mail address & I would be fine with that. Many ignored the warning signs in the 1920's & 1930's - they stuck their heads in the sand & had the same kind of foolish rationalizations as we hear today. They just didn't want to know, they didn't want to believe. We know the consequences of their complacency.
41. Livni wants obama to use his charm to help her win
zionist forever   (01.25.09)
George Mitchell is coming to Israel so suddenly Livni has decided that Natanyahu will cause a rift and Israel will get a bad image in the US. If this has been worrying her why didn't she claim that there was a risk Likud would cause a rift between Obama who was already President Elect at that time? Why did't she say it as soon as her campaign began again after her unilateral ceasefire which has lost us a war we should have won had the IDF been allowed to finish the job they started and the one chance we were ever going to get for Gilad Shalits unconditional freedom has been lost and we are back to square one. I get the impresion she wants to send a message to Michel I am the person you want to be dealing with if you want the kind of results Obama wants so make a few speeches while your here subtly encouraging people to vote for me while your here. When you go home tell Obama to make a few speeches which will encourage people to vote for me. The woman who in the begining was trying to sell herself as the honest candidate is learning to play real dirty lets just hope it backfires and the public punish her in the way she deserves and let cost Kadima the election by a landslide.
42. Will Israel EVER Learn the Concept of Foreign Relations?
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (01.25.09)
Or will it take as long as learning PR? America's relations with Israel should requite America conducting herself like an ally of Israel--NOT a neutral referee with our enemies. The entire concept of the "Peace Process" is predicated on the false premise that American and be both an ally and not an ally, according to American and Arab whim. That must cease or, and it pains me as an American who tries to be patriotic to say, an irreversible rift leading to permanent and far greater limitations of America's influence in our affairs is the healthiest thing that could happen to Israel. We must become far more serious in developing relations with a range of other countries, from India and China to Russia and Turkey (and certainly not limited to these). There are countries that treat allies as allies and we need to gauge our "friends" based on their degree of "true and reliable"; not umpires that dictate when and what we should cede to our enemies who seek to eliminate us from the Middle East by stages and subterfuge. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
43. 24
zionist forever   (01.25.09)
Natanyahu can't go head to head with Livni in a televised debate because she holds most the cards. She will condem policies he made when he was PM but he can't do the same to her because she has never been PM or had a chance to make good or bad policies. Olmerts been the scapegoat for all the failed Kadima policies made along with her and she has intentionly keeping a low profile so no dirt rubs off on her Natanyahu can't condem Livnis policies on the war otherwise he looks like he is condeming the IDF which isn't going to help him and anyway as long as Olmerts still caretaker PM he can still be used as a scapegoat so Livni can keep her whiter than white image. The odds are just not in Natanyahus favor right now to have a straight talking debate. You can be in a position where all the odds are in your favour and all the polls are saying your going to win by a landslide then you hold just one televised debate you dont come out of it well and it cost you the election. Sadly the Israeli people can have very short term memories when it comes to reality sometimes and if Livni can come out of a debate shining they will vote for her even if previously they would have gone for Natanyahu. TV is a powerful media unless its absolutly no way to avoid it why should Natanyahu gamble on a TV debate?
44. Thanks Terry, but no one will listen.
Anebt ,   Lutz, FL USA   (01.25.09)
The problem that Israel has is with her totally incompetent leadership. Since the Truman days the US has steadily supported Israel. We have a huge base of Evangelicals that support Israel as well. There is no rift.
45. Eh!!! Livini goes wild...lol .. earse!!
RJBH ,   Methil   (01.25.09)
46. Live it up, Livni
Zohan ,   Tel Aviv   (01.28.09)
The Obama Govt. will appease with Hamas ans now you admitted joining the bandwagon too in order to be frens of the US.
47. Livni: Rift With US After Elections
Toni ,   USA   (01.28.09)
Israel needs to stick with Bibi and not give a single inch of land to the arabs. God gave the land to Israel, and ever since the Jews were kicked out of Gaza, God has been chastising them. Whom God loves, he will chastise. Take back Gaza. Turn to God for help. Zephaniah Chapter 2
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