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'We hope this will get Spain to drop Shehade case'
Aviad Glickman
Published: 31.01.09, 20:25
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1. Petition to UN Ban to declare Hamas War Criminals. Inside.
Heavenly Truth   (01.31.09)
Fifteen thousand have already signed. Here is the place. http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?tap12009 Thank you all
2. Let the judges move to Sderot
Jeffrey ,   Boston   (01.31.09)
3. spain
christopher ,   paris france   (01.31.09)
Poor Spain, you really are turning into the first islamic state of Europe. I thought France or the U.K would be the first, but, thanks to zapatero and his foreign minister you are giving your soul to militant islam. What a pity, you did not stay under the Franco regime. We in Europe would be better for it. Will not go to spain on holidays and certainly will not recommand it either.
4. anti semite bastards
vashDi ,   israel   (01.31.09)
their hatred of us just grows like a cancer, well screw them all .
5. Why dont Jews remind Spaniards of their
RJBH ,   Methil   (01.31.09)
Holocaust...lol.. I Guess Spaniards dont give a toss for that now.
6. Recent reports show Spain is the most antisemitic country
(01.31.09)
in Europe. Arab pressure groups found a reliable Jew-hating nation to throw cases on its courts. http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=262
7. Livni bragged how she got Spanish PM Zapatero to Israel
David ,   jerusalem israel   (01.31.09)
Zapatero who has made some extreme anti semitic statements in the past. Livni is far left of israel politics kissing up to the EU. Kadima's weakness is pathetic.
8. one judge
Lisa ,   Spain   (01.31.09)
one judge does not make a country of anti-semites- your generalisations are unfair- many of us have demonstrated in favor of Israel, written letters etc...This judge does NOT SPEAK for Spain- he is a misguided opportunist...from Madrid.. while I can understand your anger over this, I object to being included in your hate mails...and be a target for your hatred.
9. Fact
Vamos, welcome to ,   Israel   (01.31.09)
that more and more are discovering that they are descendants of Marannos, and they try desperately to hide this. Pathetic. Just come here. If Rafael Nadal knows or discovers that he is of jewish origin, we'll welcome him here to play for us. Vamos Rafa and good luck. Hasta la vista.
10. Spain Is On A Very Slippery Slope
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (01.31.09)
11. good developement
dj ,   usa   (01.31.09)
The Spanish show willingness to have war crimes cases heard in their courts. Might Israel be able to take advantage of this?
12. it is not Shehade, it is 14 innocnet civilians, stupid!
ahmad abouali ,   nablus   (01.31.09)
it is truly sad, sick and indeed deep fascism for the Zionists to see only the murder of Martyer Shehade and not seeing the women and children that were brutally butchered by the Zionist air force. it is equally sadening, yet predictable, to see Zionists and their supporters justify the cold blooded murder of women and children, even Shehade death was a murder. that's why we do not want you in our homeland.
13. Lisa from Spain....
christopher ,   paris france   (01.31.09)
The judge seems to have the backing of the spanish governmemt. Sad to say, but, your foreign minister and Solana of the .U are anti-Israel and vocally anti-semite. SOLANA and your foreign minister were forever going to ar.se lick arafat. THEY COULD NOT KEEP AWAY.
14. State to protect the accused?
observer   (01.31.09)
and, who will protect the state?
15. #8 Lisa
Marco ,   Spain   (01.31.09)
Lisa, you dont have to sound apologetic to an idiot. Those people will not hesitate calling the truth ani-semetic when it hits them on their ugly face. Be proud of Spain. We are doing what is morally right.
16. to Ahmad abouali
(01.31.09)
Guess what ? as an European I would not wish to have so called palestinians as neighbours. Why do palestiniens always rejoyce at the death of innocent Israelis ? Why do you support suicide bombers ? what do you expect israelis to do when their neighbours wish for their death ? Why do your leaders keep you in poverty and camps ? why do you accept to be canon fodder ? Why do your women wish to bring children in the world to be suicide bombers ? Why do you support people cowards like the old goat Arafat and Abbas and Haneyh ? Why are you so intolerant of other religions ? Why do you refuse to share your land...are you a racist ? so many whys.... I could keep on and on... Israelis iare at the forefront of the Jihad...they protect Europe from Jihadists and murderers in the name of Islam. Change your attitude towards Israel, then you won´t have to worry about the IDF.
17. #15 proud of what?
Lisa ,   spain   (02.01.09)
Marco, I am not proud at all of Spain- this makes me sick! A country has a right to defend itself- especially against brutal fanatical thugs...why is Spain taking the side of the thugs? this is morally WRONG!
18. #15 That backfired in your face Marco :-)
Australian Guy   (02.01.09)
Good one mate
19. #8, yeah it is the fault of our media
Danny   (02.01.09)
they pick up on this nonsense and whip it up into some sort of neo-inquisition that the Spanish all support. It is simply the same group of people filing the same suit over and over again. As I said before there is a simple way to react: 1) Point out that this suit brought by the same group has failed in many different jurisdictions, including Spain. State that you expect it to fail yet again. Nothing about "political" no whinning about "anti-antisemitic", no whinning about "why us" or defensive nonsense. Just that this is simply a charge that has never succeeded. 2) Bring libel cases against those who bring this case. Bring libel against their financial supporters. Bring libel cases against anyone reporting it. Have the lawyers struck off for being vexatious litigants. Have the claimants struck off as vexatious litigants. 3) When eventually they lose make sure each and every single venue gives at least the same prominence to the trial being lost as it being brought. Threaten legal action if they refuse. Once it starts costing reputations and money THEN this will stop.
20. No Hatred Just Frustration
USABorn   (02.01.09)
The media is portraying "Spain" is filing action against Israel. Whoever is responsible must represent the government of Spain or other leaders would speak out against it. I wish those who filed this action would explain what they would do if another country was firing bombs into Spain at will. Spain and many other countries should file against Hamas. They sent bombs into Israel, daily for eight years. The Palestinian people are speaking out against Hamas using them as human shields. The technology Israel has tells them where the rocket was fired from and they return fire. Hamas has used their schools, homes, businesses and so on. Israel did what they should have done.
21. Don't forget the inquisition, they haven't!
shrinkDave ,   miami usa   (02.01.09)
22. #15 The children of the Inquisition
Elly ,   Vienna, Austria   (02.01.09)
#15. The children of the Inquisition speak. Morally right to stop Jews from defending ourselves? 500 years ago we could not fight the Spanish / Portuguese murderers. Now we can defend ourselves.
23. Lisa and Marco, please know that I'm very proud
GUH   (02.01.09)
of what your country has started to do. As you said Marco, what your country has chosen to do (unless it backs down under mounting pressure) is morally right. Lisa, while you may oppose this move, I do not think a premeditated assassination that will knowingly cost 14 innocent lives, 100 injuries, 3apartment buildings destroyed, and not to mention the residents in obvious shock (not everyday you have a bomb weighing one ton fall from the sky and shatter a whole block) is at all indicative what self-defense truly is. The seven accused are the thugs- they deserve a day in court whether in Spain or any other country that is willing to do them an appropriate measure of justice.
24. Guh , nothing to be proud of
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.01.09)
when your guys are hiding in the midst of civilians . And then cry that there are losses . If you want to see a criminal , look at a mirror , and you will see this face of one [ the people you defend ] This guy was responsible for the murder of Israelis , intentionally murder of INNOCENT civilians . And at the end , the judges will not have any evidence of a criminal act . The Spanish lawmakers can , as the Belgian did , change the law too .
25. #23
(02.01.09)
talking about a one ton bomb.....have you or your city experienced 8,000 deadly missiles sent towards innocent civilians, their apartments, their schools and kindergardens for 8 long years???? isn't that equall to a one ton bomb??? has your community lost 1,000 plus lives because of thewse bombs, suicide attacks, etc... in the past 8 years???? isn't 1000 plus israeli lives merit retaliation? won't you retaliate? 1000 plus israeli civilians that were not soldiers died because of those missiles and terror attacks in israel in 8 years so far. all of them innocent. hamas doesn't attack our soldiers. it attacks civilains in their apartments and schools. innovent civilians, by the way, without any military target at all. a one ton bomb is what a terrorist deserves to stop isaraelis from being slaughtered, sir! you and your country will react exactly the same way israel readted after 8 long years and 1000 innocent dead civilians that did not wear military uniforms. the ruthless thugs you claim these israelis are, are our defense force, the people who look after this country and try to eliminate any terrorist that wishes death on jews and israelis. the country has THE RIGHT under international law to protect and take action against terror attacks on civilians emanating from gaza. your country and you would have the same request of your government to finally protect you and your family after being exposed for 8 long years to terror attacks as well as missiles raining on your home and children and neighborhood. you won't for a minute think about the terrorist when it comes to your life and those you love. you would want your army and government to do everything possible to safeguard you and your family. this is what the idf and iaf did...finally, after 8 long years. do not expect jews and israelis to react any differently that the usa and other countries facing this terror and murder. it is dishonest of you to expect israel to lay and die while not condemning other countries for doing the very same things to keep their citizens safe. judging israel while you do not pass judgement on other countries doing the very same actions is dishonest, double standart and shows your intention. it is antisemites like yourself that delight when jews die and abhore when the terrorists finally die. too bad for you that most of these rediculous law suit won't hold water as they didn't in the past....because that judge's intention is exactly like yours. jews must not be protected. jews must die.....because we believe jews in israel must not exist. you are scum of the wsorst kind and i wish you suffered just a fraction on a daily basis that 300,000 israeli citizens suffer everyday in the south of israel who have lived in bob shelters, gave birth in bomb shelters and died when hit outside of bomb shelters. this is not nazi germany of the 30's and 40's. it is finally not convenient for us jews to go willingly and obediantelly to the slaughter no matter how much you would like this to happen. we have a country, an army and a government trhat will do all in its power to make sure each jewish life is sac red and continues. and if this doesn't suit your morals, so be it. who cares?
26. Arab terrorism is okay for the world?
Shoshi ,   Galil Israel   (02.01.09)
The Arabs target our civilians daily. If we fight back by only targeting the planners of these attacks, we are wrong? The world doesn't like us if we fight back and has orgasms when we don't--Spain partied during the auto de fé . The Europeans were happy to steal from the Jews sent away to die and helped round us up. We haven't forgotten Spain or Portugal, we haven't forgotten how Europe acted towards Jews for nearly 2000 years and is still anti-semitic. Israel goes out of its way not to hurt civilians, even to our own detriment. We should not bother about the children of our enemies, for they are taught to hate us and kill us indescriminately. We should not bother about the elderly of our enemies,for they fought against us in their day. Those that curse us will be cursed. It is happening now too. Read psalm 83 to see how The Creator punishes those who plot against His People. Check out the weather.
27. disgusted....
Lisa ,   Spain   (02.01.09)
I am utterly disgusted with this TB- I am against what Spain is doing- and certain TB members are deliberately misquoting and twisting my view. I am trying to understand and have sympathy here- but quoting what happened 500 years ago is not helpful. The 'children of the Inquisition'- please get real...... you are cursing and labelling everybody who is NOT Jewish- if you are talking about Europeans: we are NOT taught to hate the Jews- this is a lie!... people get thrown in jail for ant-semitic remarks- and you KNOW it- ( if an Imam is teaching this and is accused he is thrown in jail or deported..) . You have made up your mind about this and nothing I or anybody else says will change your minds... maybe you get what you wish for......you are already pray for revenge #26 No you have not forgotten.... you are quoting everything that has happened to Jewish people for 3000 years......you do not want help, you do not want sympathy, you are happy in the role of the sufferers and victims? You are alienating people who love Israel and support its struggle by throwing EVERYBODY in the same dreck. I wish you good Luck-
28. Lisa , it's always the same
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.01.09)
in talk backs . Be it here , or everywhere in the world . Generalisation . One rotten apple , and the whole basket is rotten , people say . Your trade union [ or one of them ] is anti Israel . They told the post office clercks NOT to sell the stamp commemorating 20 years of diplomatic relations between our countries [ i have seen a copy of their letter ] Some officials also have critics towards us , they are wrong . But all this does'nt make the whole of the Spanish people antisemites or anti Israeli . Native Spaniards were'nt , as in all European countries , the majority of those anti Israel demonstrators . There are people who reproach you facts happened some 500 years ago . Stupid , as if you can be guilty of this .
29. Shoshi , we have'nt forgotten , i agree
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.01.09)
But in what are the actual Spaniards guilty of the inquisition ? Or the Portugese ? Are today's Germans guilty of what their ancestors did ? I say NO , NO and NO . Most of them are'nt . Yes , there are antisemites in the world , everywhere . Be objective , are'nt there extremists here too ? Are they representing the Israeli population ? No , they are'nt . And please , don't bring in scriptures , not a serious argument at all
30. GUH
Lisa ,   Spain   (02.01.09)
GUH you are full of it....... do you think terrorist attacks on innocent Israelis in cafes and schools are not MURDER? Premeditated- and celebrated by the 'muslim brothers'- this is sick- you are in no position to judge Israel. terrorists should be hunted down like the animals they are and shot immediately instead of put in jails and released later in exchanges- for NOTHING....
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