Then again, he shouldn't talk about lots of things, like competence, principles, scruples, military strategy, or integrity. He can talk quite knowledgeably about self-interest, flip-flopping, opportunism, hypocrisy, & cronyism. There are, of course, subjects Mr Barak avoids because they won't win him votes (like today's statement) - the retreat from Lebanon, his betrayal of our allies in S. Lebanon, his failed very short time as PM, his willingness to give away Jerusalem, Gaza, the West Bank, the Golan. Then there are his more bizarre ideas like digging tunnels connecting Gaza to the West Bank that are not even sane. Pre-election pandering, nothing more.

1300 palestinians dead, and over half of them civilians, using white phosphorus, destroying UN buildings, ambulances, hospitals, schools.... it goes on. Does this sound like the world's most moral army??

IDF certainly teaches a fine moral code which we should all adopt to show our humanity... bla bla bla

Date Location Nature of Incident Reported/Estimated Civilian Casualties April 5, 1999 Missile Attack on Aleksinac, Serbia NATO attack on a barracks on the town of Aleksinac . Resulted in missiles striking a residential area hitting apartments, an "emergency centre" and a medical dispensary 10 dead and at least another 30 injured April 12, 1999 Grdelica Gorge, Serbia NATO attack on a railway bridge hit a passenger train. 14 killed and 16 injured April 14, 1999 Road between Đakovica -Dečani NATO aircraft repeatedly bombed refugee movements over 19 km stretch in western Kosovo, 73 deaths and 36 injured April 23, 1999 Belgrade NATO attacked of the Serb Radio and Television headquarters in Belgrade. 16 civilian technicians killed and 16 wounded April 27, 1999 Missile Attack on Surdulica, Serbia NATO attack on residential area in the southern town of Surdulica. 16 civilians killed May 1, 1999 Attack on a civilian bus on Lužane Bridge North of Priština: A NATO missile aimed at the Lužane bridge hit a passenger bus. The vehicle was cut in two by the strike, near Lužane bridge, 20km (12 miles) north of Priština - one section plunged off the bridge into the river below, the other portion remained burning on the bridge for more than an hour An ambulance sent to the scene was reportedly hit in a second NATO strike. 39 people were killed May 7, 1999 Cluster bombing of Niš NATO confirmed that a cluster bomb aimed at an airfield in the Yugoslav city of Niš hit a hospital and a market. Unexploded cluster bombs left lying in gardens. 14 civilians killed, about 60 injured May 7, 1999 Missile Attack on Chinese Embassy in Belgrade The U.S. admitted that an out-of-date map used by its intelligence operations had led NATO to mistakenly launch missiles at the Chinese embassy 3 dead, 20 injured May 14, 1999 NATO bombing of Albanian refugees near Koriša, Kosovo NATO planes bombed of Albanian refugees near Korisa striking two convoys of ethnic Albanians trying to flee Kosovo, Over 100 killed May 19, 1999 Belgrade Hospital Struck A NATO bombing attack on the Dragiša Mišović hospital in Belgrade hospital. Parts of the hospital were reduced to rubble. NATO admitted a missile aimed at a nearby army barracks went astray 4 killed. several wounded May 30,1999 Bombing of Varvarin, SE Serbia NATO bombers mounted a daylight raid on a bridge in Varvarin , south-central Serbia when local residents were attending the town's market. The aged and narrow bridge was considered insignificant and no military installations were to be found within a radius of 20 km. Most of the casualties occurred in the second wave, when people had rushed to the bridge to help those wounded in the initial wave. 11 civilians were reported killed and 40 injured about 17 very seriously May 30, 1999 Missile Attack on Old Age Sanatorium in Surdulica, Serbia NATO planes hit an old age sanatorium in Surdulica in south-eastern Serbia, the second time civilian targets were hit in the town in just over a month. At least 11 people killed May 31, 1999 Novi Pazar, southwest Serbia. A NATO missile attack on an apartment building in Novi Pazar, southwest Serbia. At least 11 people and 23 injured

and whats your point? that another army can kill about as many civilians in 2 months as yours did in 2 weeks? im not sure what youre getting at.

look to your own before you have anything to say again! #5 I always did wonder what Serbia ever did to UK! Dh evidently thinks Sderot, Negev Ashkelon, Ashdod etc are not civilain towns.

Ah, a carefully researched and argued point that is relevant to the discussion. bravo.

My friend it's not a matter of time or statistics, but of intentions and care about civilians ! If Israel would have cared about it's citizens in the same manner Hamas cares about Gazans, you would have wittnessed thousands of casulties on the israeli side in the last 8 years, from indiscriminate shelling. On the other side read about Hamas doctorines (which they admit publically) and you'll see that for them civilian casulties are an integral part of their strategy in this conflict . I wonder sometime how we in the UK and Europe are fooled easily by liberal left propaganda and biased media to really distinguish between frien and foe

@ 5 + 7 ... at what point did I say the NATO, or the British army was the most moral in the world? I would have the same response if our army said they were the most moral army in the world after any such massacre. Are you saying I can't be appalled at the recent gaza attack because the army of the country I happen to live in has done things which I whole heartedly disagree with? Do you think the government of a country speaks for all it's citizens? Just to clarify, my point is that Barak has no right to claim the IDF is the most moral army in the world after what they have just done.