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US intel chief: Iran nuclear arms bid unclear
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Published: 13.02.09, 07:44
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1. Let's quit kidding ourselves...they are and will
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (02.13.09)
develop a bomb. Anyone ought to of figured this out by now. Obama is going to help them load the darn thing onto the new misile they built. He just wants to get along.....and have the Europeans like us again. I mean the United Muslim European delegation. They will change their name soon. Obama might chane the USA to the UMA.
2. This man needs new glasses desperately.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (02.13.09)
He's so myopic he can't see what's right in front of his nose. Of course, in reality, he's not as stupid as he sounds. He is giving a ''political'' statement not a factual intelligence assessment (or even a common sense assessment). The current US policy, as under Bush, is appeasement. So, everything to do with Iranian progress towards a nuclear capability is played-down, sort of ''interpreted away'' ..... The US does not want a military confrontation with Iran, at least not right now. There are many who are resigned to Iran obtaining nuclear arms - in other words, they see it as undesirable but aren't willing to do anything about it.
3. hopefully after they get the bomb they will unclench thier f
JL ,   israel   (02.13.09)
4. An Admiral giving us Intelligence???
Volubrjotr ,   St Paul USA   (02.13.09)
Oh please!!! This guy is retired and never even made it to a Fleet Admiral. O Lord, how much longer must we deal with sheeple electing such stooges who appoint such burnout's. Look at who Obama appointed for CIA director.. Leon Panetta has zero Intelligence experience. Panetta is a great choice because when we travel through the first horrific mistake, Panetta will be an easy and understandable reason to throw him under the bus. Of course the desired affect of weakening the U.S. will still be achieved by our traitorous usurper Barry Soetoro --> Mr AKA Everything that this Geriatric wannabe pontificates in his conclusion is of the same content anyone could deliver on the Oprah Gossip Hour LOL. Oh Lord Please have mercy!
5. Stupid US Intel
DT ,   TA Isr   (02.13.09)
Who would believe US Intel morons who said that Iran had dispensed with their nuke programme in 2003.
6. Ayatollah Mohammad Baqer Kharrazi : "We are able to...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (02.13.09)
Ayatollah Mohammad Baqer Kharrazi : "We are able to produce atomic bombs and we will do that.” Elimination of Israel remains a cornerstone of Islamic Republic ideology. Despite revisionist questioning about whether Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad really promised to "wipe Israel off the map," both University of North Dakota law professor Gregory S. Gordon and Joshua Teitelbaum, senior research fellow at the Moshe Dayan Center at the University of Tel Aviv, have chronicled well over a dozen recent Iranian statements promising Israel's destruction. As Teitelbaum notes, "What emerges from a comprehensive analysis of what Ahmadinejad actually said--and how it has been interpreted in Iran--is that the Iranian president was not just calling for 'regime change' in Jerusalem, but rather the actual physical destruction of the state of Israel." There is reason to take the worst case scenario seriously. More at (3parts): http://xrl.us/owrbs
7. THE TWISTS AND TURNS IN STORIES
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (02.13.09)
Predicting Iranians intentions are interesting.However,looking at the present USA's forces in two countries surrounding Iran,it is but logic to conclude that the Iranian race to acquire Nuclear weapons will ALL depend on the USA's policies in the Middle East.It has NOTHING to do with Israel at all.If the Middle East is declared non-nuclear and if ALL parties agree to it,Iran could be the first country to sign such an accord as it is NOT in Iran's interest to procure Nuclear bombs and expect the Arab countries to be without it.It is a simple equation.........no one should have it or the question is why should one have it and the rest of the countries be deprived.Focussing on Iran's intention to destroy Israel is a ploy that is tuned to suit the cicumstances that exists now.But truely speaking,the above factors will play major decisions on the part of the Iranians.and let us not forget...........Iran has already acquired the neccessary means to arm itself with Nuclear bombs.They will observe the trend of events that are to follow after Obama actually takes off.Which direction is he going to head for?Your comments,please
8. US policy of 'constructive engagement'
Red Temple ,   White Mtns.   (02.13.09)
9. #1 Steven Wilson
Mark Wilson ,   USA   (02.13.09)
Its not an issue of kidding ourselves. Lets assume that the Iranians do intend to develop nuclear weapons. Can you give me one reason why they should not be allowed to do so? Why is Israel allowed to keep hundreds of nuclear war heads? How many wars have Iran been involved with in the past 100 years, and how many wars have Israel been involved with? Iran's only war in the past 100 years was forced on Iran by the west, lets not forget that. Israel's wars have always been wars of imposing will on their neighbors which eventually led to the creation of Hezbollah and Hamas. A recent survey in Europe found out that the majority of Europeans believe that Israel is the biggest threat to world peace. Way ahead of North Korea. Instead of barking against Iran's nuclear ambitions, you should be advocating a Middle East free of weapons of mass destruction, and that is meant to include Iran and Israel.
10. Europe and what they believe is only 35%
Volubrjotr ,   St Paul USA   (02.13.09)
Europe bourgeois also voted against any reference to Christianity as developing their history in the recently passed European Constitution, with France & Belgium being the leading opponents to Christianity and leaders of Secularism. This is not even close to being defensible, it is pure pagan ideology. Further, I place no credence in such a blind continent with regards to what they may think. That said, Israel has had to defend itself ever since Muhammad utter the words that no Jew shall live. Now when the Islamic Terrorist Nation of Arabs own 99 15/16th of total land mass and Israel REDUCED to only 1/16th... I beg of you to answer .... who really is oppressing who?
11. #10 Volubrjotr
(02.14.09)
Why not give Israel a bigger share of the land in your own backyard idiot.
12. Islamic Nations Can Never Have Peace
S.W.Spears ,   Hermitage, USA   (02.14.09)
We can dance around the issues of peace in the middle east, but Islam is never about peace. The factions within Islam are killing each other out of covetousness for power and material gains and yet they believe to be advancing the cause of Islam in general when they unite in hatred towards Israel and USA. For a theocratic enforcing government, they need to put their own house in order because if the whole world was Islamic, there would be no end to wars. And I know they will never put their house in order, therefore they need to seperate church from state, and have the schools teach all the factions' religious views if they ever going to hope for some degree of tolerance by understanding all views as well as their own. Yeah, that is a pipe dream too for offering that as a solution. A religion that offers no real assurances of salvation for even Mohammed did not know what "Allah" would do to him when he dies, how can any Muslim not look to dying in a jihad in gaining entry to "Heaven" which is the going hype for suicide bombings these days? And what is the reward? 72 virgins? Why would "Allah" reward a muslim in that manner in "Heaven", by what "God" considers a sin down on earth in having more than one wife? Anyone came back from the dead to assure that even this is best way? Seems like twisting the words of the Koran to make killing themselves to kill others in a jihad is acceptable when the Koran says if one should happen to die while fighting for "Allah", that is how he will be rewarded, but of course, no cleric will cry foul to this war tactic, and certainly, no one that has died has ever seen a religious leader nor a political one lead by example, and yet those that lead insists that is what "Allah" wants from the suicide bombers. And since no one is allowed to question the Koran, they should be allowed to question a leader's interpretation of it. If anyone out there that is reading this and thinking about being a suicide bomber, why don't you wait until "Allah" tells you personally to do it? After all, it is your life. If you want to be sure you are doing it for "Allah", then don't let some colorful Islamic leader influence you to do it. As it is, neither the Koran nor the Hadith said anything about killing yourself in order to kill others. And you all wonder why I believe Islamic nations can never have peace. The religion will self-destruct the human race. It is by believing in Jesus Christ; God's offer of salvation, can anyone have any real assurances in God's Word to us, and His resurrection is proof of the glory of God found in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, that by believing in Him, it is imputed to the believer as righteousness thus a ealtionship with God is established by trusting in His Word to us. As it is, only those that seek the Truth will find Him as those that strive on hate will only be led by the blind in a religion that is lacking assurances of salvation even for Mohammed. Suicide bombers should read the Koran and the Hadith cover to cover otherwise you may never know that you are throwing your life away for nothing.
13. Information Is Key To Defeating Islamic Iran
Scott W. Spears ,   Hermitage, USA   (02.15.09)
Iran should have no rights for by its Islamic theocracy, it respects not the rights of others, even those factions of muslims that are of a differing religious view as evidence of their warring with Iraq way before USA came unto the scene. Islam is a self-destructive religion. It offers no real assurance of salvation other than dying in a jihad that is ushered fr the sole purpose of imposing their religious brand of Islam on the world. "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], until they pay compensation with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." (surah 9:29) "Strongest among men in enmity to the Believers [Muslims] will you find the Jews and Pagans." (surah 5:82a) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them, in every stratagem of war." (surah 9:5) "And if you are slain, or die in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass." (surah 3:157) "Fight against them until there is no dissension, and the religion is for Allah" (surah 2:193) So we know now why muslims kill muslims because of dissension within their ranks. In the nine-volume translation of the Hadith by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan entitled, "The Translation of the Meaning of Sahih Al-Bukhari:(Kazi Publications, Lahore, Pakistan, 1979) The Prophet said,"If somebody [a muslim] discard his religion [of Islam], kill him" (vol. 4, no. 260) Does anyone find it odd that they can win converts by the sword, but they can't win them back by the sword? Not only does it show the lack of assurances in regaining "lost sheeps" but the necessity for force to keep one in a religion that does not even offer Mohammed any assurance of salvation. The Prophet said,"By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me" (vol. 5, no 266) If anyone wants to know true Islam, read the Quran and the Hadith. If you doubt what has been posted here, Islamic nations are proving it as we speak. Islam is not for peace and can never be for peace. It is a self destructive religion seeking to impose its empty beliefs on everyone as instructed by their "holy books" and idealogically blind clerics who cannot agree with all the factions of Islam. So the world is being "polite" to Islamic nations when they shouldn't be, and the only way to gain "respect" is for the world to become Islamic as well, but even then, there still will be no respect nor any peace. Islam must cease as a theocracy or forever be seen as a threat to the world by its own teachings which the world can plainly read, and it is not open to different translations whatsoever to present a milder peaceful Islam, for then, it would cease to be Islam. I am not advocating war against Islam, but muslims needs to be informed of a futile religion. If they want hope for the afterlife, then look at Jesus Christ and learn of Him for He has risen to give assurances that all those that believe in the Son of God redeeming them by His blood can have eternal life which is the glory of God and why believers will praise Him in Heaven for what God has done in bringing us Home.
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