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Parisian Jews: Anti-Semitism on the rise
Daniel Edelson
Published: 15.02.09, 12:32
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31. what it really is
m ,   jerusalem   (02.15.09)
everyone here is talking about defense and all that but you have to wonder why are these people doing this. here's the answer its not hard. they see us hurting their friends and families on TV they can't do anything major about it here in israel because we have tanks and planes and bombs and guns, and they have rocks and firecrackers. so they want revenge and the only places they can have revenge is places that we can't protect and that is the rest of the world . this is their way of fighting back. it's the truth and thats why they are doing it.
32. Marlene- Why whould this article mention a word about Gaza?
Korem ,   New York, USA   (02.15.09)
What does it have to do with Gaza? All you anti-Israel trash who talk about Gaza whenever there's an attack on a European Jew should be thrown in prison for a crime you didn't commit.
33. James 2
Rachel   (02.15.09)
I notice people like you sure never seem to never justify anti Arab or Anti Muslim prejudices some Americans had after the terrorists hijacked and flew the planes into the WTC on 911, or when Arabs and Muslims blow each other up by the dozens and even hundreds every day in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan,or when Palestinians murdered and maimed Jewish women and children inside Israeli buses almost everyday just a few short years ago. Sadly,the more things change, the more they remain the same. There will always be some excuse for antisemites to hate the Jewish people.
34. How Could It Take Three Years For A Trial???
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (02.15.09)
I don't know what is going on in French courts but this is ridiculous. The French have a history of not only not protecting Jews in their midst but also actively acting against them. I don't think that the French deserve any Jews in their midst, so this is a call for all French Jews to come to your real home, Israel, a country where you are welcome for who and what you are. Am Yisrael Chai. Nos bras sont ouvert.
35. freedom has no price!
martine ,   ashdod   (02.15.09)
Since I lived in that country, I'm sad to read those lines. I knew since years that living in France was not worth for Jews but since no one between the Heads of the Community gave the sign to leave the country, I thought that maybe things had changed. But no. I hope, I really hope that soon, the French Jewish community will open their eyes and will make their alyah. Israel is maybe hard for work, but freedom has no price. Life is more precious than any bank account! at least that's my opinion!
36. number 26: gotspe!
Thomas Merxem ,   Amsterdam, NL   (02.15.09)
For your information: most racism in my country is anti-white and is committed by MOROCCANS! It is the Moroccan community who is intolerant and behind attacks on Dutch and Jewish Dutch. Moroccans should not wake the Dutch lion!
37. My Jewish brothers and sisters in France and the UK
Phillip ,   Israel   (02.15.09)
Come home to Israel now.Not an easy country to live in agreed.But our only homeland where a Jew belongs to his Nation and his Nation belongs to him.the writing is on the wall.Aliyah now!Later may be to late.
38. Spain welcomes sephardic Jews
Hen ,   LA, CA, USA   (02.15.09)
The post-Franco constitution states that any Jew whose ancestors were expelled from Spain has special rights to immediately become resident in Spain and become a Spanish citizen at an accelerated pace (within 2 years). The king of Spain is king of Jerusalem according to his titles and protects Sephardic Jews, as he did with those who fled from Sarajevo.
39. #21 Gideon Reader; Try the Tanach
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (02.15.09)
You have a lot to learn about Israel so please do. Also, if it is the Gideon bible you are reading, get a copy of the Tanach from a reputable Jewish source. hazlacha
40. Actually, Marlene (#20),
Robert Haymond ,   Ashdod, Israel   (02.15.09)
when surveyed, only two or three percentage of Israeli Moslems identified as Palestinians wished to live under any other mideastern government except Israel. After all, they don't pay taxes because they don't complete the building of their houses (the rule is that houses are not taxed if they are not completed), they usually don't work at regular jobs for a particular employer so they cannot be taxed at work and furthermore, no one bothers them (but Jews are bothered) if they build illegally (without authorization); illegal building occurs all the time. Israeli society is stratefied (although it's incredible how quickly each new ethnic group has integrated in such a short span of time) but, in general, Israelis of Palestinian descent do much better here than they would in any neighbouring Arab country and they know it. They receive first rate medical care (just like the rest of us citizens) and an education rivalling that of any Israeli Jew with very accessible higher educational possibilities as well. They also receive benefits such as child allowance and welfare. They are not required (unfortunately) to join the IDF (Israeli Defense Force) nor to do national service of any kind. For their own good and the good of Israel, they (and several other groups including our own Haredi population) should be required to complete national service. At any rate, Marlene, your armchair speculations from New York City are extremely inaccurate and are probably based on a generalized dislike both of Jews and Eretz Yisrael (I base the latter opinion on the evident anger expressed in your Talkback) as well as some personal issues. If you are an honest person, I would suggest you actually seek the facts in an objective, non-prejudicial way. If not, I would suggest you confine yourself to our leftwing liberal politically correct English newspaper, Haaretz, where anti-semitic Talkbackers are welcomed without reservation.
41. It's only anti-semetic talk in America for now
yitzi ,   Ramat Bet Shemesh   (02.15.09)
Read a few talkbacks on the new and in particular the finanical news in America. Hatred is gowing quickly. I recently did a search on timothy geithner in google, not knowing the spelling of geithner as I begin to spell it google auto completed it with "timothy geithner jewish" much to my suprise. This indicates that a great number of people are asking this question on google. As I looked at a few of the 26,000 results a very large percentage were anti-semetic web sites and comments. The golden era for Jews in America has already passed as well as in the rest of galut.
42. Ynet shame on you for this"antisemitism is collective punish
Daniel ,   Amsterdam   (02.15.09)
You are insulting all the Jewery all around the world.James Hovland is a ahtefull person and you do not have to give space to people like this.According with him we DESERVE to suffer because of our arrogancy into defend our life.
43. Dear 28 is #24 says the true
Daniel ,   Amsterdam   (02.15.09)
You stolen thst land kiling almost all the native.No matter how much agressevly you answer Menachem from Switzerland is 100% right
44. 600,000 to 700,000 French Jews
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (02.15.09)
If most made aliya over the next couple of decades this would be wonderful. Right now Jews make up 76% of the Israeli population and falling. With the French Jews we could return to over 80%.
45. European Anti-Semitism.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (02.15.09)
According to a 2008 survey released by the Pew Research Center, as part of its Global Attitudes Project, hatred of Jews and general xenophobia are on the rise in Europe. Pew also noted a strong correlation between anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism. Spain displayed both the highest level and the most pronounced increase in anti-Semitism, doubling since 2005 to 46 percent of adults surveyed. Among European states, Britain had the lowest level of anti-Jewish sentiment, with fewer than 10 percent of those polled expressing negative views of Jews. We have to fight anti-Semitism as explained at : http://xrl.us/kw6hh
46. cameron
menachem ,   switzerland   (02.15.09)
yes we think before we write, but you even not think and stand by your history. Thats a poor sign and wank further idiot. And read the right book my friend.
47. Great trade
Yossi ,   Canada   (02.15.09)
In the briliiance that is france,you are willing to trade 500,000 Jews for 5,000,000 muslims. The Jews fill proffessional positions, conduct indispensible research, pay taxes, and generally contribute to benifit of french society. To replace the Jews.you now have 5,000,000 muslims that bring fear and violence to your country as wll as inflating your welfare roles. Stupid is as stupid does, and now you french idiots will get what you deserve.
48. Marlenes going to give me my american indian land back.
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (02.15.09)
She is holding a ticket to France and ending the occupation of my home in New York City. Thanks Marlene.......its always better to use your actions to leave....rather than the castigation of others atrocities. We wouldn't want the pot calling the kettle black.
49. ARM YOURSELVES.
nero ,   nyc   (02.15.09)
Take self defense courses. Arm every Jew. Let every Arab and Nazi know that they will be fired upon when they attack. Don't be afraid to go to jail fro defending yourself or your people. Be tough, be brave, don't be sheep. If Jews fight back their enemies just melt away. weakness breeds more contempt and violence.
50. This is news?
Arie ,   BaGolan   (02.15.09)
Since King Louis (now a saint for burning all the Talmuds in France) until today, the french have shown a predilection for violent antisemitism! During the Shoah, they willfully and with great effort, turned over Jewish children to the nazi ovens. So I fail to comprehend how this is news. To the french, it is tradition!
51. French Jews/James#2
Louis Fried ,   Woodbridge,Ontario,   (02.15.09)
What a moronic post James. Trying to justify the murder of Ilan for political anti-Zionistic reasons is absurd. Ilan was killed only becuase he was a Jew. To try to jutify his murder because of the political policies of the Israeli government is obscene. There will always be anti-semitism amomg Islamofascists no matter what the policies of the government of Israel.
52. #26, Very Funny, Keep It Up (Not)
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (02.15.09)
Morocco? Hahahahahahahahahaha. First, we have our own country. What do we need with yours? Second, try reading the Jewish Encyclopedia to see how Jews were treated in Morocco. Example: Under Mulay al-Yazid (1790-92) all Jews who had been employed by the former sultan" were hung by their feet at the gate to Meknes, where they remained for 15 days before they died."p.338. Under the Vichy govt and Muhammed V, Jews got half the food rations of Muslims. p. 342. Etcetera. We don't want to live in your country. We want to live in our own, thank you very much.
53. To #36/Thomas Merxem
Kingdom of Morocco ,   Morocco   (02.15.09)
The Moroccan community in The Netherlands doesn't represent the inhabitants of Morocco. Jews have lived in Morocco for centuries and continue to do so. Jewish schools and synagogues receive government subsidies. Morocco is the only Arab/Muslim country where Jews are active in politics as ministers, members of parliament, ambassadors and (royal) advisors. Maybe you should visit Morocco and see for yourself that a small fraction of Moroccans in your country do NOT represent the Moroccans in their homeland. Morocco can't be held accountable for their actions, just as Jews in France and all over the world can't be held accountable for what the State of Israel does. Morocco is a very tolerant country towards all religions and maybe you should visit it........ You're welcome!
54. Smug and ignorant, seasoned by arrogance
Gideon Reader   (02.15.09)
To#39 Brana Lobel I do not read *any* Bible. I make no pretenses towards religion. Anyone's. As far as what I have to learn about israel; your estimation of my knowledge is flawed and very VERY faulty. I have been to Israel and lived there for a time sufficient to tell me what I need to know, if I were residing anywhere in the world. Your concern is I am sure rooted in your comfortable belief that you know "secrets" based on the seniority of residence. I am able to assure that ignorance is found in long term residency, as well. Well. Now that we have settled that, what exactly do you think I need to learn or am insufficient in?
55. #38
Jane   (02.15.09)
Nice thought, but the reality is that Spain remains deeply anti-Semitic. Maybe they are afraid to find out how large a segment of the population is historically Jewish.
56. firarms in Yisrael
LL   (02.15.09)
Not true Gideon reader. It takes time but a regular citizen can get a gun for personal safety without ever being in the IDF. I know plenty of people in this category.
57. #53: Would You Rather Be A Guest Or A Host?
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (02.15.09)
Host? I thought so from your post. Morocco has had an up-and-down history toward Jews since the 12th century. The Jews by and large for 1900 years have not chosen countries like yours because they actively wanted to be there, but as the better of bad choices. Everything was dependent on who the ruler was. Not true that Morocco has the only Jewish parliament members--so does Bahrain. Makes no difference however as your government can go "south" at any time. Besides, and to be tedious, trumping any invitation is that we are the hosts in our own country. It's our country. It's the Holy Land. YNET kindly print this as you seem to have lost my Amalek post. Thx.
58. Room for more
Hadassah ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (02.15.09)
There is always room in Israel... come on home!!
59. # 20 Marlene Neweseri
Oleh ,   Tel Aviv   (02.15.09)
You're still being a pain in the a$$, still going on and on about the poor innocent warm and fuzzy Arabs. How much time and energy have you wasted with your obsession against Israel and Jews?! Looks like life is passing you by, leaving you an old and bitter woman. Enjoy!
60. Mozambique is NOT always in Africa
Gideon Reader   (02.15.09)
#56 LL Compadre, I asure you I have been in formal contact with the relevant entities; the Mahesh, Mishtarah, Min Interior, and several others. All have circuitously routed the appropriate completed & notarized forms, to each other with none taking responsibility, and all insuring that I would have at least a three year wait for imnporting my personal wepons(all of which are professionally customized, and very VERY expensive)would remain in an un airconditioned "warehouse" under the control of an un-named "control office" which would be responsible for their security and care. Having worked with those agencies professionally for a reasonable period of time and having seen the difficulty that even Professional Senior Officers sustain in similar circumstances, I choose not to enter the Joseph Kafka world voluntarily. If I was a "regular" citizen in say Judea or Samaria I could in time be allowed to acquire some piece of half plastic dreck that passes as a PODW. No thank you friend. I'll defend myself.
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