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Vatican irked by 'blasphemous' Israel TV show
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Published: 21.02.09, 10:22
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1. BIG NOISE when Jews return fire. Vatican hypocrites
Nudnik   (02.21.09)
We all know what this comedian was trying to achieve - and actually he's right. The Catholic Church's behavior regarding Williamson is nothing short of disgraceful. They have invited this kind of reaction from Jews. I say the Pope should deal with this matter far more comprehensively - if he wants his institution to be respected , other than by the Iranians and their ilk. I mean , this church has major, major problems around the world with its credibility in the way it handles priests who are pedophiles - they avoid taking responsibility like the plague - pretending crimes never happened until absolutely forced to do so. And now with this incident - cry foul when a shot is fired back their way.They are HYPOCRITES.
2. Confused
Ali   (02.21.09)
So after the apology and the nice words, what is the truth? did he walk on water or not? Please tell me coz i don't know where I am on this.
3. Yes but
(02.21.09)
It is a lesson to the Christians who believe that the Jewish are the chosen people of God , here they are .. they showed us how they think about our relegion , what we expect from the killers of Jesus , they compare it to the Holocaust , they compare a happen made by normal people to a great happen came from God ... the Moslems believe in Jesus and the VIRGIN Mary but the Jewish not ... who we have to respect more now ... the Jewish or the Moslems as relegion .
4. Israeli TV Show
NYC Girl   (02.21.09)
This is comedy, and while it may be disturbing to some, it certainly doesn't rise to the level of full-on Holocaust denial, although it looks as if the Vatican may have wanted to attempt to draw some parallels in order to mitigate the fiasco of rescinding Williamson's excommunication. Not only that, but if they thought Schlein's routine was offensive, it's obvious that nobody in the Vatican has ever heard of Bill Maher.
5. myth and history
p s khn ,   paris   (02.21.09)
It is perfectly reasonable to doiubt that a virgin could give birth (2000 years ago) or that anyone could walk on water. Those are religious myths not historical facts. Doubting the Holocaust is different. That is a well-documented event in recent history. So the comedian's choices were not the best. Better to mockingly doubt historica facts: that the Vatican exists, or that there have ever been popes, etc. But really, there is no adequate quid pro quo here. The Vatican has suffered no holocaust; it has merely inflicted or aided mass slaughter throughout the ages.
6. Oh Horse Hocky!
Israeli ,   Israel   (02.21.09)
"...the German-born pope issued a strong denunciation of anti-Semitism and said it was unacceptable for anyone, particularly a clergyman, to deny or minimize the Holocaust...". It certainly was just fine for the last 2000 years! We don't believe you, Ratzinger. Besides, Mary, or more accurately, Miriam, a young Jewish girl, very likely only 15, was the virgin mother of the Messiah. But, AFTER He was weaned, the New Testament says SHE KNEW HER HUSBAND JOSEPH. The Catholic church has ignored this passage of scripture. There is NO biblical foundation for worshipping her as "the blessed virgin" there after. She is simply the mother of the Jewish Messiah. She afterward was NO LONGER a virgin. Their offense has no foundation in any truth, only in Catholic myth.
7. is the vatican protecting a jew ?
Brother of jesus ,   Jerusalem   (02.21.09)
that is progress
8. You can make fun of Judaism,
jason white ,   afula,israel   (02.21.09)
but not christianity or islam! jesus and mary{Miriam} were born Jews and died Jews. If they were to come back to life today,they would still be Jews.They would worship with their fellow Jews, eat kosher and be saddened what was done to their fellow Jews by christians over the last two thousand years.
9. vatican
av ,   london.uk   (02.21.09)
THE TRUTH HURTS.OK POPE
10. he is going bald, his "do" aint helping
jerusalem   (02.21.09)
I dont recall them criticizing the jewish faith. what, has lior nothing constructive to sayor do to rebuke them than to deny and criticize their faith? Anyway, I wouldnt expect anything more; it is well known that the jewish tribes killed the prophets. and whats the "outrage" with him being rehabilitated? isnt that what happens here to jewish terrorists-just slap a "crazy" sign and assign rehab (and name streets later for some) or fine him for a shekel or agora or what other petty, scandalous "punishment" rather than treat him for the crime? shows how low hes willing to go, not to mention criticizing faiths isnt going to scare people into believing in the extermination of jews, gypsies and the others that died under hitler's command. all thats left is for someone to cry "anti-semitism," thank God he is a nobody anyway-never even heard of him IF hes so "well known."
11. How ignorant can you get?
Gur   (02.21.09)
Christians is one thing - Catholics is something else -
12. The 11th commandment
Adam ,   Raanana   (02.21.09)
Thou shalt not have freedom of speech.
13. Not being offensive
Sagi ,   Israel   (02.21.09)
but not only was Mary not a virgin, she simply was not. Likewise Jesus.
14. jesus offenders
tom ,   T.A   (02.21.09)
Oh what a miserable&spineless lot we are: finally some Jew-boy manages to "offend" the christianJew-killers (let's face it, that IS a viable description of the Jesus-possy) and pronto we gravel before the wrath & the hutzpah of Vatican. No wonder we'll probably loose this country as well (in the peace-process...) Jews ofthe World : get some huevos, for Christ' sake !!!!!!
15. About Time Catholics Were Insulted
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (02.21.09)
To hell with the catholic church,the vatican and the pope.All they ever gave Jews was grief and murder.So they are offended? GOOD.
16. Shame on you
Alex ,   Russia   (02.21.09)
17. Where is Bushy boy ??? where is G.W.Bush ??
(02.21.09)
18. "Jesus" =Jesse; " Mary "=Miriam
Moshe Israel ,   Tivon   (02.21.09)
Christianity is entitled to the same respect we Jews demand (to no avail) for Judaism. I for one apologize to Christians all over the world, for Shlien's "comedy". It is beside the point that Jesse (called Jesus) and his mother . Miriam ( called Mary) where born and died as Jews. Moshe
19. you don't mess with the Israeli comedians
Potash Katiftof ,   Tel Aviv   (02.21.09)
After living in israel for over a decade, I would have to say that israeli comedians are way more talented than american comedians. If they want you to seem like an idiot in the news, good luck opposing them, they are counting on it.
20. Vatican offended
charleston ,   LA   (02.21.09)
what a joke.. How about the BLOOD LIBEL against the Jews, perpetrated by the Church, pretending to be theology The gospels teaching Jews killed their god Jesus
21. Well so what it's true
Ben ,   Tel Aviv   (02.21.09)
22. Vatican upset at Israeli TV show
Eli ,   Israel   (02.21.09)
Too bad for the Vatican. This is a tv show, not an official relgious or governmental body. I don't believe Jesus was God or his son and the son of a virgin. So what? Too bad for the Vatican. However, talk about insensitivity. Vatican officials who helped Nazis escape Europe, the Pope who did nothing to help Jews then, the acceptance of holocaust deniers back into the graces of the Church, they are official Vatican actions that show no sensitivity (to say the least) towards Jews. Lots more could be said. Someone should ask the pope who Bishop Alois Hudal was, and what he did just after WW II! Sensitivity, what rot!
23. But The Catholic Church Can Insult
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (02.21.09)
Israel and Jews.The Vatican can criticise Israel and jews freely like the turks and president Erdogan,but they do not like it when jews strike back.
24. Didnt know vatican watched israeli TV..
Harry ,   Baltimore   (02.21.09)
They must have had someone translate. Hahahah German Govmnt let the pope have it... put him in his place. Europeans arent as "Pope-Crazy" as Americans or other nations are. vatican is losing credibility rather fast these days. I am not surprised.
25. #8
(02.21.09)
Christians (Protestants) recognise Jews as chosen people of God, and those who murdered Jesus are the religious leaders, not the common people (Jews). The ones who persecuted you (Jews) are the Roman Catholics.
26. Insult the Pope
(02.21.09)
would be a better game.
27. Vatican "irked"? Let's review
Arie ,   BaGolan   (02.21.09)
For 2000 years, vilify Jews for alleged "deicide"; for 1500 years, vatican responsible for tens of millions of Jews in crusades, inquisitions,pogroms,blame for the Black Plaque (because we knew to wash!), and finally the Shoah!; yearly promotion of the "passion play" that promotes attacks on Jews; and today, the warm hugs to a sect of catholicism that promotes antisemitic histrionics by claiming Jews control the world through financial domination and organized lies. YET, when a Jew provides some humour in return, the vatican gets its vestments all in a tither and the pope's red kippah goes flying in the air. Well, gosh darn...what's a Jew to do to gain some catholic acceptance? I know..we can all commit suicide and placate them. NOPE, they would bitch about that too.
28. The "irking" of the Vatican
Christopher ,   Boston, MASS   (02.21.09)
Pedophile priests. Openly antisemitic Priests promoting violence against Jews. A continued promotion of the charges of deicide against the Jewish people. That`s the present. Then we look in to the history of the Church, which included centuries of genocide against the Jews, Inquisitions, and mass expulsions, all in the name of the Church. And they are "irked" by sarcasm? Nothing like holy rollers and their self-righteous indignation.
29. #16 Alex SHAME ON YOU!
petra ,   uSA   (02.21.09)
My mother escaped communism after WW!. Jews were slaughtered, their property stolen by the state. SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON RUSSIA. that' why her empire was removed and your children starving.
30. jew vs christians
botros ,   lebanon   (02.21.09)
great job , silly , as if all christians are enemies of israel , dont you ask yourself that if europe and the usa are your enemies too , along with 1 billion muslim , just let me know , with whom are you planning to live exactly ? stop acting like all the world are against you , if one christian denies the holocosat , there is no reason to attack and gain the hate of the rest of the world by insulting thier symbols , and guess what you are 15 million in world of 6 billions , so i think you are not alone !
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