Kadima is now more left than Meretz, this is a paradox. Shaul Mofaz is somewhere near communists! Tzipi is fighting for here existance loosed game!

i dont know where you got this numbers,maybe you need to google it

is based on naivete' and a lack of knowledge of the history, nature, culture, religion, modus operandi, agenda and goal of Islamist-Jihadism. This is the Leftism road to nowhere. The past 4 years showed that the Leftists' road to nowhere led to two wars.

1.God forbids dividing the land in the tanach 2. Radical ISLAM wants a palistine with out Israel so a two state solution in Islams Eyes is only a tempoary Hudna State.... folks that hold to a two state solution puts Israel into a very vunderable position ....

You ask how could livni still support 2 state especially given that arabs lack security genetics and demographics are actually tilting towards Israel. Well, Olmert started the whole business with sharon to help sharon distract from geneva proposal and potential indictment from peacenik mazuz. So Mazuzz and the press were bought off with 2 state and gaza withdrawal. Now, being unable to change one's opinion is equal to a lack of intelligence. Livni, knows how to do a law exam, but many lawyers are actual idiots in real life. She is one such idiot, lame. She got infected by Olmert who pushed the 2 state because of his wife and kids and to avoid indictment. Livni is not a coward like Olmert who will go to his grave with 99.9% of israelis except winograd( who was paid handsomely and who is an olmert asskisser like marcus, verter and barnea)and some hebrew U friends hating him. But Livni is an idiot. She thought the lebanese resolution had teeth-iIdiot 1. She danced around with Condi Rice,removing checkpoints while israelis were getting killed-idiot 2. She demanded Olmert resign twice; he looked at her, dared her, and then told her to shut up. Guess what? She sat there, took it and took orders from Olmert-idiot 3.Finally, her brain does not allow her to restudy demographics or to entertain arab citizenship with Jordan. Or to recognize that palestininans are incapable of security because they are not a nation. They are syrian, jordanians and egyptians who moved to palestine to take jobs from jews-idiot 4. I don't say she is pathetic as she is capable of doing a good job as a minister. As PM, better than Olmert, that is easy. But she is dumb, stupid and few israeli dare to ask her-are you stupid? Like when she was asked about removing 100,000 west bank judeans, she replied we'll do it, like it would be no trouble. Admittance to law school requires certain skills, but intelligence is not one of them.

It should be clear to every rational person that there is only enough room for one state between the Mediterranean an the Jordan. Either it will be a Jewish, Democratic state, or another Arab dictatorship. Thankfully, it looks like former has staying power.

This is news to me. The palestinians don't want a two state solution and would rather live under israeli administration. Would the author want to live under the types of conditions the palestinians do rather than independence or equal partnership? How about an independent Gaza that has to live by the same same rules everyone else does? Do you think maybe they'ld stop firing rockets if the blokade was lifted and they were treated with respect? You might want to give that a try. There was never a full "disengagement and withdrawl from territory" in Gaza. Would Israelis fell like they had been disengaged from if they lived under the types of conditions the palestinians do? I doubt it.

The other solutions offered are self-serving and lead to nowhere. The Palestinians would have 5 million refugees go into Israel. The settlers would have the Palestinians become citizens of Jordan. All the solutions offered are bigger pipe-dreams than the 2 state solution which is more and more a pipe dream in itself. So, the answer will be more violence and everyone will tear their hair and cry that a solution must be found.

should be used to build condos in Syria and Jordan. The money from the EU should be used for condos in Egypt. Here is how the Israeli government will then state their plea: Citizens of Gaza and the West Bank, if you hate Israel so much and have a private disdain towards what happens when Hamas fires upon us, thus resulting in military strikes, please abandon Gaza and the West bank to go live in your TRUE nations. If not, so be it. The wall and security checks will be present until there are absolutely no suicide attempts, smuggling attempts, or Qassam rocket firings in 6-12 months. Every time there is an attempt afterward, the security checks will go back in to place for another 6-12 months.

....including world Jewry. It is Haetzin and friends who live in their ideological bunkers.

Only Yichud Le'umi is against a 2 state solution. Shas, Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu all support the establishment of a Palestinian state but they're just not as delusional about Abbas as Kadimah and Avodah are. If the Quartet wants to pull Hamas into the framework of negotiations, what's stopping them? Intentional mass slaughter of civilians never stood in the Quartet's way of rebranding a terrorist into a "Peace Partner" and it certainly won't have much effect in terms of facts on the ground.

Why can't we all stop hating each other and just get on with living in peace. Lets all just be friends. What a wonderful country we would have if we gave up silly ideas of nationalism. We are all citizens of the same planet.

The Average Gaza citizen Left to them selves - your theisis might have a chance ...But with a radical Islamic Hamas ...an organization that has written into thier charter the eventual removal of israel from palistine as thier primary goal....your thiesis becomes a fools game. remember before the british palistine was an islamic caliphate ....one of the rules of islam is if a land that is under islamic control is captured ...every effort must be made to bring that land back under islamic control....Radical Islam holds this as a cardnal value....Hamas foundation is radical Islam and will not compromise!

only idiots still believe when after 15 years of solid proof proves other wise

You say :”.. if they (i.e. Israelis) lived under the types of conditions the palestinians do?” You are saying that Gazans have nothing to eat ? They all look well-fed. The majority of the Gazans have chubby cheeks. They don’t appear to be skinny like the Africans from war-torn, mired-in-crisis areas in Africa. SO Richard, to look well-fed -- means life in Gaza Strip can not be that bad, don’t you think ?

Its possile the arab peoples and their jewish cousins can live in peace and good deeds in eretz yisrael but islam must make a iron clad ruling for a jewish return in utter security in erez avraham -yitzchak and yisroel . Ishmael has mecca and medina .

Bye mrs livni .....

Tzipi is conceited. She only cares about HER glory and image and nothing of the state of Israel! She has become nothing more than a true politician and no longer puts the state of Israel above politics so screw her!

Falling to the sins of inflated ego and hubris, Livne and Kadima will soon be swept away into the dustbin of history. She lacks intellectual substance, political acumen and consistency, as does her party. Barak and Labor outflanked her and will become the sole inheirator of the so called "left of center" mantle. Good ridance to Tzipi and her non-party.

We all beleived in you, but you let us down! shame on you..... You won and then lost... was this your plan from the very start?

Her father has the Kach emblem on his tombstone. ONE STATE - FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE. I feel sorry for his soul. His daughter sold hers to the devil.