1. leave this 89 year old
to die in peace when his hour comes stop bothering him he is innocent search for Ivan the terrible somewhere else.
| john , |
parma ohio |
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2. Hear, hear John!
Didn't "Ivan the Terrible" die in the early '90s anyway??
| Bob O'Really , |
Australia |
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3. Too Frail?
My Grandparents weren't "too frail" when they were deported!
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4. 1# and 2#, Demjanjuk was a mudererer at Sorbibor
| Judah , |
Golan Heights,ISRAEL |
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5. The judges are erred.....on similar fact evidence...
evidences in other crimes not proven yet !
there were admision of evidences not relevant , and admitted evidences wrongful, at the first instance hearing....such as the murder of the romani people, homosexual, diabled individuals,murdre of the slavs in eastern europe, Poles , soviet Pows, Jehova witness, the murder of the serbs. All these evidences is not relevant to the charge of murder, that he was indicted. The charge on him was only refering to the murder of the jews. other similar facts evidences though seem relevant but may not be addmisible to convict this man with evidence of similar facts i other alleged crime .other tahn the murder of Jews . They should have thrown the case out in two minutes on appeal ! However the Israeli Supreme Court is so correct on the merits of teh facts and law in the case reported :-)
But no doubt Ivan the terrible is such a terrible one per se.The benefit of any doubt must be given to the accused !
Should have judged him by law but not emotions, please :-)
Jewsih justice works two ways. it cuts both ways , but the benefit of the doubt must be given to the accused.That first instant court forgot basic principals, the cardinal rule of law ! Rightfully overturned decision : -)
| ben , |
singapore |
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6. Another relic of the carter legacy
In the 70s, then president carter, now better known as the saudi financed globetrotting proponent for all organizations anti-Semitic. carter began personal intervention on behalf of nazi war criminals, beginning with Nazi SS Commandant Martin Bartesch. That attitude that the "nazis have suffered enough being hounded by the Jews" permeates to this day. This vermin will never see a true court of law in Germany. Wee can only revel in the knowledge that all his neighbours and all that have ever known him know him for what he truly is. Upon his death, surely arafat, hitler, and yassin will welcome him and escort him through mohammed's gates
| Arie , |
BaGolan |
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7. Justice is odd. Former US Congressman Jim Traficant is
in prison on trumped up charges according to former Wall Street Journal Editor Paul Craig Roberts for getting this Demjanyuk fellow off the hook in Israel. Time to put the right guy (Demjanyuk) in prison and let the innocent one (Traficant) out.
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8. Riv #7
they both conspired evidence agaist one was suffecient, but agaist the other I dont know, why not brought forth. I suppose procedural laws :-)
both Traficant and demjanmuk were like bee and honey .
| ben , |
singapore |
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9. 8 Ben: II Chronicles 19:2 says if you help the ungodly, it
will be a curse for you. If you help the godly, it will be a blessing for you. James Traficant helped someone he THOUGHT was a godly constituent, but the consequence of Traficant being framed showed Demjanmuk was anything but godly. Others have been burned by Demjanmuk who tried to help him. None that I know of who helped Demjanmuk significantly were blessed by that. They were cursed.
If you read former Wall Street Journal Editor Paul Craig Roberts articles on James Traficant in the American Free Press newspaper, you will see Traficant is innocent and should have been released. He was offered a pardon; but would have to admit guilt to receive a pardon, which he would not do. That is another Catch-22 in the US legal system. Innocent people cannot even be granted parole if they do not admit guilt. They are considered to be unrehabilitated. Many supposed sex offenders are kept in prison or mental hospitals after their sentence is served because they refuse to admit guilt. Obviously, some are innocent and were framed and falsely imprisoned.
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10. # 9 Riv
Riv, the system administration of justice in the past 20 years in the US has become .-The Activist Judicial System. As such the system administration of justice slowly brok e away from the traditional justice system. New Blood , new leadrships ,new way of looking at cases has a big role in the development of law. The pardon came after the sentencing, and usual that is the case- there is a need to accept guilt without qualification, because the conviction is concluded. The justice system is man made and not a perfect system. Moshe Maimonide knew these to the point he wrote his rabbinic hallmark, note for courts: That it is justice to free 1000 guilty man than to punish one innocent man. This hallmark jewish ideals been turned or abused to the point the whole importance of legal burden,hear say rules,opinion evidence,judicial discretion, even the presumption of innocence, right to silence, admisibility of illegaly obtain evidences been taken for a ride, so as to turn the table against the accused. Traditional Justice System would not allow evidence to be used unfairly against the accused, as the traditional justice system sacretly safe-guards the right and fairness for the accused too. To a cetain degree it is modern activism that has caused such a jeopardy to a point of miscarriage of justice.The system seems to protect the rapist but not the victims. There is no JUSTICE mna could do when the whole system that the world have developed all these years are from a fallen system. Only Hashem is the Judge. Hashem only has onw ste of laws and we all will be judged by the same law. we will all be responsible for all our acts and ommission in out life time.
I believe that ; even the ungodly could be salvaged, nad one blessing of Hashem is so awsome that one blessing can consume any curse. Who ever been judged by the law still has the grace of pardon form G-d. One must repent every moment.This is how jews see the right to be forgiven and seek forgiveness. Hashem is the Lrd of Mercy and Justice.
Jonathan Pollard is another case with the same disaster by the activist judicial night mare.
I agree with you , yes justice do fail !
cheers
ben :)
| ben , |
singapore |
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11. Judah #4
He was not a muderer at Sorbibor. Just another jewish lie and exageration. Leave the poor old man alone!
| Bob O'Really , |
Australia |
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12. how many times?
how many times can one person be accused and tried for the same crime? Israel had him- tried him- threw out the case- if the Israeli's did not have enough proof beyond reasonable doubt- why try again?
Nothing will bring the victims back- this man probably won't last through another trial-
Wasn't there a case against him years ago in Canada too?
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13. JUST LEAVE THE POOR OLD MAN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS INNOCENT BEYOND ANY DOUBT.
| Jeff , |
Parma,Ohio |
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