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Lieberman promotes 2-state solution
Roee Nahmias
Published: 25.04.09, 11:08
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1. DISUNITED STATE OF PALESTINE
steve ,   tel aviv, Israel   (04.25.09)
I agree, no peace negotiations until Gilad Shalit is released. Until there's 'some' will on the part of the Palestinians - be they Fatah, Hamas, or Jimmy Carter - to accept a 2-state solution (with Israel), there's no way.
2. Agree #1, no talks until Shalit is RELEASED
Scott ,   Australia   (04.25.09)
Yes, one innocent man's freedom should be forefront to any discussions with his captors about ANYTHING. What a vile bunch of barbarians - who can so easily sprout about their 'human rights' when clearly they have not an inkling of what that really means. The Palestinian's supporters also are silent. They endorse by their inaction, this disgusting torture on an innocent man and his family. All the while denouncing Israel and demanding that these filthy scum receive more aid.
3. Lieberman is unstable; he's all over the map.
Steve   (04.25.09)
This is the problem with this man. He is incredibly unstable. One day he says something bold that energizes his supporters and the next day he sells out to Israel's enemies. Lieberman has proven he cannot be trusted.
4. 2 States inside Israel is suicidal!
freejay ,   Israel   (04.25.09)
2 States inside Israel only means suicide! The whole idea of a separate state is absurd! This could be in comparison to the 800.000 Jews, kicked out from Arab countries, and their millions of offspring wanting to create their own state in an Arab country like Iraq! The whole notion of an Muslim Arab PAlestine is just as ridiculous as the Arab Jews wanting their own state! If they want to create this bogus state( which they obviously dont!), let them have it in Jordan....which was originally mandated!....after all, Jordan consists two thirds of Palestine! West BAnk MUST stay in Israels hands for obvious security reasons. If Hamass controlled West BAnk, they could split Israel in 2 as it is only a 7 mile corridor from WB to the sea!
5. OH MY GOD
FAD EGYPT   (04.25.09)
IF THIS IS RIGHT SO BIBI IS MORE HAWKISH THAN LIEBERMAN BIBI DOESNT SUPPORT 2 STATE SOLUTION LIEBERMAN SUPPORTS BIBI DOESNT SUPPORT DIVISION OF JERUSALEM LIEBERMAN SUPPORTS BIBI WILL NOT GIVE MORE TAHN 50 PERCENT OF JUDEA AND SAMARIA BUT WILL KEEP THE JUDEAN DESERT AND THE JORDAN VALLEY BUT LIEBERMAN WANTS TO GIVE PARTS OF ISRAEL AND IS READY TO GIVE SETTLEMENTS I AM SURE THAT BIBI IS HAWK AND DOESNT WANT TO GIVE LAND BUT HE IS UNDER PRESSURE FROM US EU UN SHALOM
6. everybody turns soft once they reached office.
(04.25.09)
I starting to think that a government job comes with a Valium injection.
7. Lieberman talks two states
DT ,   TA Israel   (04.25.09)
Probably true but to what degree ?. So goes the saying that Politicians are like bananas : "they come in green, soon turn yellow and you have never seen a straight one "
8. #4 i agree, arabs dont see israeli leneancy as good will but
as a weakness   (04.25.09)
9. lieberman was being diplomatic & suleiman needed to explain
why he invited him   (04.25.09)
10. One State Solution
Pal Pal ,   The M E   (04.25.09)
Freejay, if there was granted one state, that being an all-jewish state, where would the borders be. Would Israel and jews be happy with their own state, or would they be covetting more and more of their neighbour's lands? Can Israel be trusted with a single state entity, and can jews be trusted not to get greedy, and want more, more, more?
11. What about Shalit - Pal Pal? Just another 'Jew';Expendable?
Scott ,   Australia   (04.25.09)
And where is Shalit? No visitors rights for him is there? Hasn't even harmed a Pal Pal ever. So one "injustice" deserves another? Shalit's life wont change a damned thing. You know that. He is not a pawn but a "JEW" who your friends can enjoy tormenting. Sick. Its as disgusting if not worse than the very things Israel is accused of. Decent people dont do things like that, Pal Pal. So you can say just what ever you like about the Israelis - You people wallow in depravity - evil. And as there is unfortunately support for your kind - just remember there's a mountain of power behind Israel that has not even stirred yet. Dont worry yourself about any state. It wont happen. And everybody knows it. Its complete and utter BS. The ME will be re-shaped soon - but this garbage will not be part of it.
12. Agree with #9 ,personaly I don't trust Egyptian politicains
Sami ,   Canada   (04.25.09)
and on the top of that,Liberman ,Netanyaho and Co. they say one think upper the table and another thing under the table.
13. Please, no more 'new' ideas.
Ypip ,   Canada   (04.25.09)
Power steering maybe, but no 'new' ideas, thanks.
14. #6 Government jobs come with a dose of reality
Chaim   (04.25.09)
Which Lieberman, like others before him, has been struck by. Who would have believed at the time that Menachem Begin of all people would give up the Sinai? There are forces at play far bigger than petty squabbles over a piece of land here and a piece of land there. Ultimately, all politicians come to realise it.
15. Arabs hear what they want to hear
Steve ,   San Francisco   (04.25.09)
Lieberman's two states are not Olmert's and Livni's two states. Anyway, the best thing is for the King of Jordan, anachronism that he is, to step aside so that the real Palestinian state can be in Jordan where it always should have been.
16. So much for the 'Ali Wake' article
ME ,   USA   (04.25.09)
All the unnamed 'sources' giving their dumbazz negative opinion to Ali Wake to print as 'news' on YNET. Pathetic! Print news you can stand behind, not some lame 'source'.
17. #10 You have it upside down. The Jews
Burndown Haaretz   (04.25.09)
gave back all of Sinai. Its the Arabs who steal land and pretend it was theirs all along. The Arabs - you know , those originally from the Arabian Peninsula come to a place called Judea as in Jew, take their land and pretend they were there all along. Its like white people in America claiming they were in Ohio before the Indian tribe they killed off. Its really the Muslims who seem to have a habit of coveting every non Muslim's property and using their religion to cover up for their theft using taqiyya which means "Total Deception" so Muslims steal and lie about it and are obligated by Islam to do so. With hundreds of millions more Muslims than Jews shouting these lies throughout the world, its drown out the truth and now many believe these lies. Arab = Arabian Peninsula and Jew = Judea Who do you think was there first PalPal?
18. Well, Duh! All of this BS about Leiberman...
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (04.25.09)
being a racist because he: 1) demands that citizenship has obligations of loyalty; and 2) thinks arab "Israelis" who call themselves Palestinians and hate the state of Israel should be transferred ALONG WITH THEIR LAND to a future Palestinian state in exchange for land on which hundreds of thousands Israeli Jews live in the territories. The man lacks polish and is crass but he is smart as hell and is reasonble and logical. We all think Mubarak is a coward for not visiting Israel. Only AL had the balls to say it.
19. #17
Pal Pal ,   The M E   (04.25.09)
OK BH, but you haven't answered the big question: If Israel was one big state including Gaza and the West Bank, what would be its borders, and would there be no more expansionism by Israel (I would expect Israel to defend these borders and make them final).
20. #14: Why defend the indefensible?
Steve   (04.25.09)
Judenrat cooperated with forces at play far bigger than petty squabbles over the lives of this or that lowly Jew in the ghettos of Europe. Naturally, there war far bigger forces at play then as there are now. These were cowards and traitors; Jewish leaders who traded innocent Jewish lives for favors from their superiors. You are willing to see the loss of innocent Jewish lives in order to appease the forces at play far bigger than "petty squabbles" over a piece of strategic Jewish land.
21. #10 - what a bunch of BS your comments are!!
(04.25.09)
The Jews have been willing to compromise, over and over and over and over again even when it brings our country to the brink of civil war, if it means we can solve this dispute. We were willing to compromise in 1948 and every time since then and all we hear from the arabs is "no." No to our rights to be here, no to stopping terror (which you call resistance). And the amzing thing about us is that we will compromise again if we can reach a solution of TWO states. But we need to see something other than corrupt, incompetant, weak, terroristic, maximalists "this is muslim land" bullshit murderers on the other side of the table who can show us that we won't be creating a terror state 10 minutes from Tel Aviv. Who can show that they have the ability and desire to BUILD A STATE and buld more than a society of terror and death. If and only if you show us that, we will compromise on land, on Jerusalem on settlements - everything to leave in peace with you.
22. #10 yes, if israel includes WB & golan. but who do you think
(04.25.09)
you are, to grant any population it's wishes? seems you've been on this TB channel too long, and became an armchair general good and proper, just lacking the self humor (arab trend). still, here's a quick reminder israel gave up sinai, gaza, and any thought of expanding to the borders of ancient judea in jordan (included in the original palestine), and the parts ancient israel in syria.
23. arbraham is not from judea, he's from iraq
chilem ,   arlington,tx usa   (04.25.09)
# 17 you say arabs are from arabian peninsula, well abraham(father of the jews) is from iraq, and even the torah said that when he migrated to judea and settled there that there were already people there and that those people welcomed him in. so based on the torah jews didnt orginate from israel nor were they the first ones there. congrats zionist jewsya'll are the new white men coming to claim land in the name of religion
24. chilem , arlington,tx usa
Steve   (04.25.09)
The Pigrims and other white Europeans were not from America, they were from Europe. They coveted, squatted on and stole land from the Native Americans, ethnically cleansing, expelling and herding them into reservations; violating treaty after treaty. There was the 1830 Indian Removal Act and the Trail of Tears chilem. White European settlers and squatters invaded Texas demanding James K. Polk illegally annex Texas, which he did, resulting in the American-Mexican war. Congratulations chilem, you are an illegal occupier of Mexican land. You are the new white man claiming land in the name of (Manifest Destiny) religion.
25. Two state solution is SEPARATION and TRANSFER
(04.25.09)
Lieberman is right. Two state solution is the only way. As many jews as possible should be transfered to Israel and as many arabs as possible should be transfered to new state of palestine. they shouldn't even have to move. just move the territories that they live upon. Triangle to Palestine and Ariel with Jerusalem neighbourhoods to israel.
26. #24, dont assume i'm white, learn history
chilem ,   arlington,tx usa   (04.25.09)
#24, i'm glad you agree about the european colonizers that committed genocide against the red man( a true warrior). Its funny tho you think i'm white, for some info, my people were marched to the coast put on ships and treated like pigs and cows and only looked at as a tool for profit. like the great malcolm x said, we didnt land on plymouth rock, plyamouth rock landed on us. so lets be clear america is and always will be the redman's land( go read up on AIM). i'm not a white man trying to exploit no, the reason i'm in america is because of the same imperialist that you are in bed with right now, so you might need to rethink who you are getting all of your aid from, and its funny how much begging ya'll do to america for money but you want to make a comment like that lol, america is garbage but lets be honest without that garbage israel wouldnt be nothing. its funny to see ya'll beg america and criticize america at the same time(i could understand that if israelis were brainwashed like most blacks in america but maybe ya'll are brainwashed and being used). but dont ever put me in the same boat with america homie
27. No 2-State Solution!!!!!
David ,   Tel Aviv   (04.25.09)
I support a one-state solution where Palestinian Arabs and Jews live together as equals in a bi-national state that spans the entire areas of Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank. Thats what all you idiots here want when you say no to a 2-state solution, isn't it?
28. pals unilaterally declare statehood
chilem ,   arlington,tx usa   (04.25.09)
palestinians do not listen to europe the usa, israel,egypt,iran,syria, or russia, declare your state like the israel did or like the vietmanese did. look at the vietmanese they declared there statehood, the usa and france didnt agree with them but look what happen, today we see a united vietnam. If israel doesnt support your state when you declare it, tell them make a move then. palestinians must declare their state and create a route to the free world( create a port city on gaza coast). unilateral declaration is the only option for the creating of the pals state. if its left up to the usa and israel the pals will end up negotiating for centuries while the zionist grab land. palestinians declare your nation when u want to not when the usa and israel is ready. if israel and the usa dont like it tell them to boot up and make a move. palestinians only you and you alone has the will to create your state and has the will to defend your state. unilateral declaration is the only way for the pals. freedom or death, peace for all or peace for no one.
29. #26: I know my history
Steve   (04.25.09)
In your post #26. you invoke the Torah and the Almighty, saing God brought Abraham from Iraq (Mesopotamia or Iraq) to the land of Canaan. God told Abraham, he would give all of the land of Canaan to Abraham and to his descendants forever. He re-affirmed His covenant or oath with Isaac and with his son Jacob. You say America will always be the redman's land. Yet God gave it into the hands of white European conquerers; at least for now. Maybe God will give it back to the redman in time. I quote the 'holy' book of Islam whom you defend: "Moses said to his people: The earth is Allah's (God's). He gives to those whom He choses. Happy shall be the lot of the righteous (Israel)." Qur'an 7:129 God gave north America into the hand of white Euorpean invaders and conquerers. These conquerers are in the forefront of the effort to steal land God gave to the sons of Jacob in order to give it to Abraham's and Jacob's enemies. The Torah you quote says of Abraham, "I (God) will bless those who bless you and the one (America?) who curses you, I will curse." (Genesis 12:3 I know my history. How about you? Do you know your history?
30. PS: chilem
Steve   (04.25.09)
What does chilem stand for? Does it mean, "Kill-em; kill-em all!" (?)
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