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IDF: Settlers created provocation
Efrat Weiss
Published: 03.05.09, 07:25
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1. To the Rabbi: Don't Stand on Ceremony
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (05.03.09)
They don't want a fence? What are they thinking? This is not about a fence, it's about saving Jewish lives. If a fence would have thwarted that axe attack and saved one pious Jewish boy..can anyone stand on ceremony? Has the rabbi gone completely nuts? Who started this fight is one thing..that can be determined and criminal prosecutions started. This is not the first time inadequate protection and negligence caused deaths. I recall 8 pious yeshiva students of the Torah, gunned down at their desks, while studying. Where was the security? Why are Arabs hired to drive lethal vehicles (bulldozers) in Jewish neighborhoods? Why is Barghouti tweaking Israeli noses? Why wasn't he hanged long ago for his crimes? Why, why, why?
2. If it's 'your right to live there'...
Wanda ,   Montreal   (05.03.09)
...why then is it called the West Bank?
3. Sharia and the IDF
Joseph ,   Israel   (05.03.09)
According to Sharia, women are inferior beings who are locked up in their homes or hidden behind veils for their own protection. What happened in Bat Ayin? Some Jews went to pray and Arabs attacked them. Instead of praising the Jews for shooting in the air without hurting anyone, the IDF criticizes the Jews for not accepting their inferior status and locking themselves up inside their ghettos.
4. To #2
David   (05.03.09)
It is called Judea and Samaria by its original inhabitants. What it's called in English doesn't matter
5. #2 Why is called West Bank? Good Question?
Jewish Refugee ,   U.S.A.   (05.03.09)
http://israelactnow.blogspot.com/2008/11/west-bank-or-judea-and-samaria.html is just the beginning.
6. Wanda, its called Judea and Samaria
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (05.03.09)
7. #1 Dav Lev - You don't get it!
Schreiber   (05.03.09)
Jews have the right to live normal lives in Israel. If something is preventing them from doing so - go after the problem! Do not punish the Jews for merely existing by locking them up inside a ghetto. Come out of the Middle Ages, Dav Lev! Encourage Jews to act as proud citizens in their own land instead of chastising them for daring to show their faces to their Arab neighbors. What would have saved the life of that Jewish boy would have been an armed security force within the village. But instead of calling for Jews to be armed, you tell them to build fences... Haven't we had enough locked enclosures, barbed wire and walls in the last 2000 years?
8. political geography
Michael ,   Haifa   (05.03.09)
...and Italy was called Rome, and France was called Gaul...Judea and Samaria are as actual as Rome and Gaul
9. PROVOCATION = CAPITULATION
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (05.03.09)
At the hands of its weak leadership the IDF has become a puppet in the political game of appeasement. There is an underlying fear to act and defend its tax paying citizens. Now of-course Ynet does make sure to make us out, to be nothing else but extremists living in a foreign nation. What is left out is the fact that most of the land surrounding umm safa was bought by the Jewish Agency in the 1920's and is being used by these same peaceful Arabs, which normally would be called theft. But with a capo mentality that rules the media, the government and the IDF leadership, all they want to do is to capitulate and give up. Slowly but surely these same elements will lose their grip on the IDF and they will be replaced by religious Zionists who understand our rights to our land, secular Zionists are in their last days of power..
10. #4 Then why do it's new 'original inhabitants'...
Wanda ,   Montreal   (05.03.09)
...appear to originate from elsewhere? It's highly debatable that any Ashkenazim have any right to tenure at all, is it not?
11. settlers
enron ,   jerusalem   (05.03.09)
the settlers provoke everything and everyone, as an israeli they should be taught a lesson. A lot of normal israeli lives are at stake here. they should start using their brains instead of acting like a bunch of barbarians, and plus if you don't feel safe after everything the army has done you can always move to another settlement or city.
12. Wacked out Wanda and YoSh
Ben Tamalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (05.03.09)
I'm surprised you didn't call for the expulsion of Yehudim from Yehuda because "the settlers" endanger the IDF. WB was invented by a London PR firm (c. 1952) when the exiled Hejaz Hashmite transplanted tyrant of the newly invented kingdom of Yorden wanted a de-Yehudizing designation for the historic region of Yehuda and the Shomoron (YoSh). As for a debate over Jews being able to live in their own land without being threatened by those that come to kill them from the homicidal, Hamite, peninsular homeland of their own name, as if Ashkenazim are not Jews, your ignorance and hate is beyond debate.
13. #11 Proof that Ynet provokes civil war!
David ,   Shilo Israel   (05.03.09)
Your passionate response to the inflammatory & indiscrimate headline just goes to show who is doing real provocation here! I'm first and foremost a Jew living in just another part of Israel. Any Jew should know by now that just occupying a Jewish body is a serious provocation?
14. To quote Hamas, the PA/PLO and most left-wing commentators:
Ari ,   Israel   (05.03.09)
"This is a natural response by an oppressed group of people who come under near-daily attack, to the many acts of aggression committed against them by an enemy which wishes to drive them from their historic homeland."
15. Darth Vader would be pleased
adam eliyahu   (05.03.09)
An arab enters a Jewish town, kills a boy and strikes another in the head with an axe who, miraculously lives. The residents are upset by ongoing arab violence. The residents are blamed, even by the IDF and police who confiscate the weapons of young men who serve in the army. And the arabs, after these bloody attacks, have no problem finding supporters.ANd the Jews guilty of LIVING in Israel are hated.Left wing is a death cult.
16. The quote proves that the IDF is a total failure
adam eliyahu   (05.03.09)
"We are working night and day to guarantee the safety of the area's residents." IDF was not established to protect the regions' residents. That was the purpose of the British mandate. The IDF was established to protect Jews in the Jewish state from non-Jews. The IDF has become a traitor to its mission.
17. #10 IT IS NOT!
Shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (05.03.09)
Whether or not Jewish people living there are Askenaz or Sephardi makes no difference what so ever. The question is Jewish state or not. The fact that its called the "west bank", let me ask you a question, what should it be called the east bank? Even if it were Palestine it would be the west bank of Palestine because, madame, it is the west bank regardless of its political status. And as for your "original inhabitants" sarcasm why dont you ask the "palestinians" where they were living 200 years ago. 10 to 1 they will tell you either in Jordan or Saudi Arabia, Iraq, or any number of middle eastern countries. So get a hold on your history lesson and then pass judgement.
18. #17 Genetic studies reveal...
Wanda ,   Montreal   (05.03.09)
...that the Palestinians are more likely to be converted Jews than the Israelis are 'original' Jews. The rest is all myth making.
19. settlers are provocations walking
ale ,   Italia   (05.04.09)
any settler is a provocation to palestinians, to ONU(or UN). any settlements and any settlers are provocations to Peace, to Laws, to international laws. any settler is a crime against paece any settler is like a kassam. we can stop kassam because palestinians are for peace, but we can't stop settler because israeli and idf support jewish settlement policy, and settlers doesn't like peace....they love to steal land , and more land, and more land.... no settlers but stealers... israel is a theocracy like iran in iran: sharia+imams laws+nuke/illegal bombs in israel: torah+rabbis laws+nuke/illegal bombs
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