Opinion  Nahum Barnea
The Jews are to blame
Nahum Barnea
Published: 04.05.09, 12:13
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1. not surprising most of key jobs
ghostq   (05.04.09)
in the USA r by the hands of jews, when money is short, so is the tolerance toward the owners, the art, the banks, the law, the medical industries r full with jews who call the shoots, so it's no surprise, it was always there, it's just surfesing now, especially after Madoff case.
2. As Us economy collapses further, Expect more antisemitism
zeev ,   tel aviv   (05.04.09)
Nu, so what else is new?
3. Vile antisemitism
Inyaki ,   Bilbao   (05.04.09)
talkbacks in leading spanish daylies such as El pais etc have long ago became a tribune for vile antisemitism including provocators posing as jews etc. It is not clear what can be done about it, unless there is a strong monitoring control and filter.
4. Yes, the same in Germany
Sophie ,   Metar   (05.04.09)
I was appalled to see how much antisemitism you find in German talkbacks. People feel a lot safer to "say" things they would never dare to say in public. It really is a danger, ayn ma la´assot.
5. Abe Foxman should give up
(05.04.09)
If Americans Jews become sick of the abuse they receive, they can always move to Israel. Abe Foxman should go first.
6. Another Double Standard, eh?
PunditRich ,   Wisconsin, USA   (05.04.09)
Hey, a good example of the double standard about which you frequently scream: criticism of Israel/Jews is despicable and unacceptable anti-semitic, while all other criticisms such as this against Americans or Europe or Arabs or Palestinians or "self-hating Jews" or J Street or ... is free flowing and rabidly encouraged, eh?
7. Led by Rahm-Obama. Where's the surprise?
InTheKnow   (05.04.09)
8. to be honest here the jews in america are not easy to like.
mira ,   israel   (05.04.09)
talking as an israeli jew i do not like their overly liberal mind. they are spoilt and arrogant. i think americans will get along with israelis much better.
9. To #8 - Why? You think Americans like loud, stubborn people
Frankie Abulafia ,   Jerusalem   (05.04.09)
with falafel and hummus hanging out of their mouths? I think it's safe to say, that if someone hates Jews in America, coming to Israel will only make their convictions stronger.
10. just like TB here
Lisa   (05.04.09)
just like TBs in this paper....Jews against orthodox Jews, Jews against Christians, against Muslims, against bankers, against everybody : "Mud-wrestling between Jews is almost as sexy as mud-wrestling between women". Need I say more?
11. it is great because we know what they are really thinking
avrom ,   bet shemesh   (05.04.09)
reading all these nasty talkbalks means we know what the politicians and leader writers who are anti Israel really think and those who want to impose a "peace process".even if their criticism is legitimate and reasonable because the talkbalk voice the opinions that they cannot voice for obvious reasons ie lies poor taste rascist and anti jewish.in other words they hold the same opinion as Al quaeda,Hamas and Achmadinejed .that the Israeli regime should be wiped off the map of course they protest it does not imply violence or genocide of any form The implications for Israel's policies are obvious to me
12. to #10 Ilike the way you think lisa,
ghostq   (05.04.09)
maybe that's what everyone needs, mud wrestling. obma's wife and tzipi should rumble down.
13. Axman? Give up, of course. He is counterproductive.
Brad ,   USA   (05.04.09)
14. Hmmm... However, there IS a significant problem.
John ,   Europe   (05.04.09)
And that is: WHERE are the limits between legal criticism of Israel and antisemitic attacks? It is easy when we come to a blatant idiotism, like "Jews blood is worse, what can be seen with big noses" or "Jews like anal sex and that makes them degenerative race". These Julius-Streicher-like filth is not even worth of looking at. Just remove it and that's it. But what when we come on subtle claims or when we are on fine line? For example, how will the statement about "Israel oppressing Palestinians" be proclaimed as antisemitism, when there are overwhelming number of statistics - and even articles in many Jewish newspapers! - that shows discrimination? There is also one thing that Jews did not solve out: what about people who abuse their Judaism? Like, rich people who commit vile acts and then run for "Jews-protected" shelter, wearing masks of teshuva? One case that comes to my mind is Semyon Mogiljevich that took shelter in Israel as a big Jew - and when the storm was over, he went back! - although he gathered initial capital for being crime lord by selling Russian Jews' apartments without sending them the money! These are the questions that demand uttermost attention, for only like that an antisemite will be back in margins: when you have precise definition what is wrong and what is right!
15. Excuse Me?
Duderino ,   Chapel Hill, USA   (05.04.09)
Why should Foxman be fighting for the honor of the IDF? He is an American. Americans should not concern themselves with the perceived "honor" or lack thereof of foreign militaries.
16. #8 This is my favourite accusation
Sam ,   ME   (05.04.09)
Accusing some one to be "overly liberal"???!!!! How can being liberal constitutes a bad thing??? I imagine if some one told me I don't like you you are liberal I would feel privileged. It is hard to be liberal and authoritarian.
17. #12 so, both you & Lisa are ladies?
observer   (05.04.09)
18. #16 - Overly-liberal? Look at the UK
William ,   Israel   (05.04.09)
You will see a reason why "overly liberal" becomes a bad thing. When those who adhere to an ideology open themselves up to outside elements that will eventually destroy them...that is not a bad thing? Decades of fights in the Middle East center around one argument - keep the Middle East Arab, which provides a foundation for racism against Jews, Druze, Persians, Kurds, Black Africans, and Indians. Being overly liberal means everyone has a right to free speech, even if it's steeped in hatred, racism, and insults. You Muslims have tons of laws against this, sending many to their death simply for asking a question about the Koran that Imams deem must be taken as fact - end discussion. Next, anyone who adheres to an ideology so strongly that it ignores reality and basic human sensibilities is a bad thing - whether extremely right or overly-left.
19. Riskless Judaism?
David ,   Miami   (05.04.09)
I think the wide swath of America's left leaning Jews want riskless Judaism, and are shamelessly abandoning their cultural homeland's defense to varying degrees. From my own experience antisemitism in the USA is very prevalent, mean and assertive. The Israeli miracle will be undone soon if America's Jews essentially choose American materialism over Israeli assertiveness to be a secure Jewish homeland.
20. No surprise, just look at the talkbacks in Isareli papers...
Adam ,   Kent   (05.04.09)
21. why to say no while its true
sameer   (05.04.09)
you give nothing to america except wars, while the americans tring to finish one and get out of their crisis you call for another war , how many soldiers money equipment they have to sacrifice to satisfying you on the other hand iran will balme america for every thing happened thats mean every thing belong to USA will be target for their attacks , 3 years later they will have the nuke by their underground reactors and they will not forgive
22. #18
Sam ,   ME   (05.04.09)
Hey William, I didn't get your first 2 paragraphs because this is what I was trying to say!!!? In the third one you i think you are confusing Liberal with Lefty and they are not mutually exclusive. Asem
23. Hey, #16. As Dr. Michael Savage says ...
Stewart ,   U.S.A.   (05.04.09)
Liberalism is a mental disease. Just look at the nut cases in San Francisco. Look at the type of people Barak Obama hung with. Look at how the great liberal minds at MSNBC and CNN peppers the mainstream tax protesters with vile, homosexual references. ... Yeah, liberals, are real sane and mature.
24. People always forget, it's about THE BLAME.
Aaron ,   SF, USA   (05.04.09)
Critique individual Jews all you want, fine. Critique Israel policy all you want, fine. Critique AIPAC for doing their job too well, fine. BUT, blaming Israel for every single middle east problem? Putting all the blame on Israel for the Palestinian refugee problem when history shows it was a complex multi-layered event in which Arab leaders themselves ordered Arabs to leave the region? Putting all the blame on Jews for the financial crisis when there have been 5+ other people(non-Jews) convicted of Ponzi schemes and the banking system more complex than anything one or multiple Jews can control? Putting blame of America's foreign policy mistakes on Israel, when America makes its own decisions? blame blame blame blame. We were blamed for the plague, we were blamed for Jesus murder(when the romans did it, not us), we were blamed for Spain's debt in the 1400s cause we were the lenders....and they just hadn't paid us back. How do you solve the problem? Expel, torture and convert! Blaming the Jews and/or Israel for the worlds problems or having a tunnel vision on just Israel does absolutely nothing to solve the worlds problems!
25. that's right
boris, ,   ny, us   (05.05.09)
jews are to blame, peace could be reached in 1967, 1973 after all arabs removed from israel (including gaza and so called WB), jews would become like other peoples and israel like any other state, instead jews bumbling about peace, democracy, light to the world and so on. whole world is tired, aren,t you?
26. to #25 peace could have been
ghostq   (05.05.09)
made also in the division plan in 47 arabs could have got much more than now, but they missssssssed,
27. to #17 y you want to joine a mud wrestle?
ghostq   (05.05.09)
I know you want to.
28. The anti-semitism is rising because of US Jews
pub ,   USA   (05.05.09)
Once again in history with the Jewish Marxists -- the secular US Jews that hate "Christian Fundies" are joining together with other minorities to take the voice away from conservative white Christians and nonbelievers who support the basics of our founding fathers as well as Israel, and gave us Obama. We support their homeland while they destroy our free country, attack Christianity, and make us powerless with joined support from other minorities who hate us. There's your reason.
29. It is called swarming, or the Rahm Emanuel effect
Kerwood Derby ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (05.05.09)
The Washington Post talkbacks are hundreds of times worse than the most left wing sites I see. And you will notice the same swarming effect when Drudge puts a headline up on his site to an IL site. There are dedicated Jew haters out their just waiting to pounce. And sadly, many are Jewish. They even go so far as to say Bibi and Yevette (Lieberman) are nationalists, not to mention AIPAC supposedly lobbying for the interests of the Jewish state and not its destruction.
30. Service Of Editors To Humanity.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (05.05.09)
Quote :”.. at times they are rejected, on the grounds that the Internet should not be censored.” Talkbacks containing hatred towards a whole country, talkbacks containing untrue history (i.e. lies), talkbacks calling for the murder of unarmed civilians SHOULD be censored by the paper’s website -- by ANY paper’s website which wants to be known as a sane newspaper , as a newspaper for the educated, as a newspaper containing historically correct information, as a newspaper propagating the brotherhood of mankind. Paper website’s editors should keep in mind the following saying : a madman can say anything, just like a goat can eat anything. IN other words, because he is mad -- he should be protected against himself by NOT publishing his talkback. THAT is a service of the editors to humanity, which includes the madman.
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