31. To Bill #2. To Enforce The Ten Commandments.
You say :” People who accept Jesus are the chosen people, ..”
TO accept Jesus does not mean by words. Words are cheap. To accept Jesus means to act according to the Ten Commandments. Jesus said that he came (to planet Earth) not to minimize the Ten Commandments, but to enforce the Ten Commandments.
TO accept Jesus does not mean to accept one or a few of the Ten Commandments -- one should accept ALL of the Ten Commandments.
ON whether you are the chosen people -- do NOT be jealous of the Jewish People. The Jewish People are the chosen people.
You should be MORE concerned about whether you are following all of the Ten Commandments -- that is your (and people like you) first and foremost duty.
BTW whether others are following Lord Jesus Christ or not -- is NONE of your (and people like you) business.
BTW just to believe in Jesus is NOT enough -- one MUST follow ALL of the Ten Commandments without fail. ONLY then are you properly connected to Lord Jesus Christ. Otherwise you are not connected to Lord Jesus Christ.
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32. 18...u sound Christian...there is no
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33. The Law of Return must, must be reivsed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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34. #5 -- Jesus wasn't no Messiah --
-- but it's pretty clear that he existed, just as it is clear that Moses existed.
Get used to it. You don't have to believe that he was son of god, but it seems he was a person who lived.
What scares you so much about that?
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35. I wish
I could help them were do I sign ? their rightfull place is in the holly land, like any other jews.
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36. The end of the Law of Return
Wow!! If this law goes through, it will mean that the Law of Return will now apply to Xtians as well as to Jews. The floodgates to Israel would be wide open. Essentially, it would mark the end of the Law of Return as we know.
Do you want this?
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37. 18 you sound Christian....there is no OT
it is the Torah and the Tanach.....Christians named them the Old Testament as if your bible was new...
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38. 25 David, David: There are Jews who are Jews in their hearts
and there are Jews who are not Jews in their hearts. Which do you think Yah accepts as Jews? Circumcized Jews whose lives are a reflection of the commandments of God to Moses that Rabbi Yeshua followed. Rabbi Yeshua said there are Jews who are Jews outwardly and there are Jews who are Jews inwardly. Which do you think Yah accepts as His own? Those who are outwardly Jews or those who are inwardly Jews? I think those who are inwardly Jews are the ones who are accepted by Yah as His own. Rabbi Yeshua said those who love him would obey his commandments. Most Christians do not obey the commandments. They don't even follow the Shabbat of the Lord or the dietary laws for health. Messianics are different from people who call themselves Christians because they become Jews and honor the holy days of the Jews, not the holidays of the Christians. Unlike you, I believe Jews of Judaism have a Father and Son religion called Yah and Adonai. Messianics have a Father and Son religion they call Yah and Yeshua.
Shortly, Israelis will be the missionaries to the world as they realize their Messiah who is coming as the lion of Judah has come before as Melchisedek, King of Salem...as the Angel of the Lord in the firey furnace with Daniel's three friends...as the sacrificial lamb called Yeshua.
Messianic Jews are more a part of Israel's heritage than atheist Jews who are allowed to settle in Israel.
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39. Messianic whatever are no Jews and have no business
attaching themselves to anything Jewish.
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40. are there Messianic Muslims?
Mohammad is foretold in Christianity- “…And though I have been innocent in the world, since men have called me “God,” and “Son of God,” God, in order that I be not mocked of the demons on the day of judgement, hath willed that I be mocked of men in this world by the death of Judas, makeing all men to believe that I died upon the cross. And this mocking shall continue until the advent of Mohammed, the messenger of God, who, when he shall come, shall reveal this deception to those who believe in God’s law.” ( Gospel of Barnabas Ch# 220 )
Jesus was never crucified nor killed, but was raised up- “..Then God seeing danger of his servant, commanded Gabriel, Michael, Rafael and Uriel, his ministers, to take Jesus out of the world. The holy angels came and took Jesus out by the window that looketh toward the South…” ( Gospel of Barnabas Ch# 215 )
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41. to 11, Torah Jew, heavy shot
Think about the reason why Madian and Moab attacked Israel. it was Israel's sin ! When Amalek attacked, the prayers of Moses helped Joshua to fight Amalek. These are principles that have not changed. Further, allow me to say: when Jesus said to the fig tree: you shall not bear any fruit any longer, this is a picture for Israel.
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42. Just say no. You would do the same for murderers, drug
dealers, pedophiles. and the like.
They have a right to love Jesus, but not the right of return.
Just say NO!.
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43. to 31, Maansingh, as a pagan Christian
i agree with you. God has chosen Israel, not America nor Germany nor any other nation. I also firmly believe that God extended His grace to the pagan world through the coming of Jesus Christ, not to remain in the pagan traditions but to abandon them and to sanctify their lives with prayers, fasting, praising the Lord and loving his nexts.
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44. MESSIANIC JEWS RIGHT TO RETURN !!!.
MALACHI CHAPTER 4., verses -
4Remember the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, the statutes and ordinances.
5Behold, I send unto you Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and terrible day of Jehovah.
6And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=7&version=16
REVELATION OF JOHN., CHAPTER 12.,, verses -
1And a great sign was seen in the heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars;
2and being with child she cried, [being] in travail, and in pain to bring forth.
3And another sign was seen in the heaven: and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems;
4and his tail draws the third part of the stars of the heaven; and he cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bring forth, in order that when she brought forth he might devour her child.
5And she brought forth a male son, who shall shepherd all the nations with an iron rod; and her child was caught up to God and to his throne.
6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has there a place prepared of God, that they should nourish her there a thousand two hundred [and] sixty days.
ELIJAH WILL CONVERT PART OF ISRAEL TO THE NEW COVENANT PROPHESIED BY JEREMIA,
THAT IS TO BE CIRCUMZISED TO HEART,
TO IN ALL DO THE WILL OF JEHOVAH FULLY.
THIS IS THE MESSIANIC JEWS/ISRAELIS/144.000 FROM THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL,
AND BECAUSE OF THEM,
ISRAEL WILL BE PRESERVED AS A NATION,
AND WITHOUT THEM,
ISRAEL WILL GO TO DESTRUCTION ONES AGAIN.
Orao.
| ORAO STRANKA. , |
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45. Not different Messiah, different GOD!
Jesus in the eyes of all believing christians is a GOD, not JUST a messiah. This is a fact lost upon many of the responders to this article, and jews in general who r ignorant of the fact. We can argue about who the messiah is, what he did or didn't do, but GOD? There's no debate. Judaism has NEVER believed in a corporeal man-god, never. Even jesus himself would be shocked at his deification, and perhaps that is why hs last words were, "forgive them father, for they (the goyim who made him into a god) know not what they do".
Besides, the world today is worse off than it was in his days, so any "fulfilled" prophecies have no meaning at all. We yet await the coming of Moshiach every day, yet he tarry, I will wait for him.
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46. To To Maria #18. They Are NOT The Same Person.
You say :”.. the God of Israel[Jesus was His name when He became flesh] ..”
Dear Maria, you say that the God of Israel became Jesus, you say that the God of Israel came (to planet Earth) as Jesus -- that is not true.
Jesus is the representative of the God of Israel. TO clarify this point I am using an example. Just like the Ambassador of The Netherlands in the USA. The Ambassador is the representative of Queen Beatrix, the Queen of The Netherlands. But that does NOT mean that the Ambassador is the Queen. The Ambassador is one person and the Queen is a different person -- they are NOT the same person. Similarly, Jesus is one person and the God of Israel is a different Person.
BTW to proceed one step further using the above example : the Queen of The Netherlands doesn’t has just one Ambassador for the whole of planet Earth. No, she has tens of Ambassadors spread throughout planet Earth.
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47. WRONG LINK MY TALKBACK 44.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REVELATION OF JOHN CHAPTER 7 verses -
Revelation 7 (Darby Translation)
Revelation 7
1And after this I saw four angels standing upon the four corners of the earth, holding fast the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow upon the earth, nor upon the sea, nor upon any tree.
2And I saw another angel ascending from [the] sunrising, having [the] seal of [the] living God; and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it had been given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3saying, Hurt not the earth, nor the sea, nor the trees, until we shall have sealed the bondmen of our God upon their foreheads.
4And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred [and] forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of [the] sons of Israel:
5out of [the] tribe of Juda, twelve thousand sealed; out of [the] tribe of Reuben, twelve thousand; out of [the] tribe of Gad, twelve thousand;
6out of [the] tribe of Aser, twelve thousand; out of [the] tribe of Nepthalim, twelve thousand; out of [the] tribe of Manasseh, twelve thousand;
7out of [the] tribe of Simeon, twelve thousand; out of [the] tribe of Levi, twelve thousand; out of [the] tribe of Issachar, twelve thousand;
8out of [the] tribe of Zabulun, twelve thousand; out of [the] tribe of Joseph, twelve thousand; out of [the] tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand sealed
THIS TALCKBACK SHOULD BE READ TOGHETER VID TALKBACK NR 44.
THIS IS THE RESULT OF ELIJAHS MISSION.
THE 144000.,
EQUALS THE WOMEN WITH 12 STARS/THE FIRSTFRUITS OF ZION/ISRAEL HERSELF.
Orao.
| ORAO STRANKA. , |
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48. Not Jewish
They are not Jewish but since they each have a Jewish grandparent, the Law of Return allows for them to come. We must change the Law of Return before it destroys us from within.
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49. #44 : like stated u r trying to convert jews
they will be like u --trying to convert jews, that's why they won't be let in .
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50. TALKBACK 45 !!!.
NO DIFFERENT MESSIA AND NO DIFFERENT GOD EITHER !!!.
THE TRINITY EXPLAINED.
1And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall be fruitful;
2and the Spirit of Jehovah shall rest upon him,
THE SPIRIT - IS THE HOLY SPIRIT,
JEHOVAH - IS THE FATHER,
HIM - THE SON.
WHEN YOU SE HIM WITH YOUR HUMAN EYES,
ONLY THE SON IS VISSIBLE.,
THOUGH THERE IS THREE PERSONALITIES IN THE ONE GOD.
GOSPEL OF JOHN CHAPTER 14., verses -
6Jesus says to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father unless by me.
7If ye had known me, ye would have known also my Father, and henceforth ye know him and have seen him.
8Philip says to him, Lord, shew us the Father and it suffices us.
9Jesus says to him, Am I so long a time with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? He that has seen me has seen the Father;
ZACHARJAH CHAPTE 12 vers -
10And I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplications; and they shall look on me whom they pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for an only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.
ONE DAY ISRAEL WILL LOOK UP TO JEHOVA,
WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED,
AND MOURN FOR HIM AS AN ONLY FIRST-BORN SON.
AMEN !!!.
| ORAO STRANKA. , |
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51. Shas ia an obscurantist sect.
Whatever happened, I cannot accept that Shasniks that destroying Judaism will decide.
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52. to #40 I read that thing so many times
by muslem and pro palestinian people who r not familiar with the entire Gospel Books, your knowleg of chritianity started probably in cast lead and is very limited, so give it a reast will ya.
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53. Faith of True Christians: Jesus is NOT God.
He is the Messiah and son of God. The trinity was made up by the church centuries later. I am a Christian. I don't recognise the so-called Christian churhes.
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54. total humans droids if I may -
this one from that one, that one from this one?? compassion, kindness, understanding, neighborliness!! these are the most relevant messages to be sure knowing that which makes us the same exceeds that which sets us apart. On this point I have total clarity, so we are inclined to manufacture many differences between us to categorize so that we might conserve our fear, specialize our contempt because honestly that fear and that contempt is the exact opposite of the derek HaShem. That being said what is happening here is not an attempt to exclude any sort of believer from anything; what is happening is maintenance of a system that denies the privilege of citizenship in Eretz Yisrael, after all is winning the lottery or the sweepstakes a right or a privilege or getting a great job that pays well and gives 100% contentment; is that earned or is that automatic?? I believe that their new testament clearly shows that christianity is islam (i.e. Elymas the Wise) so since this is my belief some would screech aaahh he hates muslims or eeehhh he hates christians but, nope I don't hate either one I think they are both heterodox Judaism and are thus fine if it brings their adherents peace and serenity but, I don't think that gives them to "privilege" of citizenship in Eretz Yisrael and seriously I don't think they would want that citizenship if they would go back and read their own sacred works and see that Israel is the place for Jews and the Place for the Holy Temple and is indeed in the best interest for all humanity regardless of beliefs.
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55. TALKBACK NUMBER 53 !!!.
YOU ERR IN THE TRINITY !!!.
Vers 6 -
6 and the Spirit of Jehovah will come mightily upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man.,
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9 And it was so, that, when he had turned his back to go from Samuel, God gave him another heart: and all those signs came to pass that day.
FROM -
1 Samuel 10 (American Standard Version)
1 Samuel 10
1 Then Samuel took the vial of oil, and poured it upon his head, and kissed him, and said, Is it not that Jehovah hath anointed thee to be prince over his inheritance?
2 When thou art departed from me to-day, then thou shalt find two men by Rachel's sepulchre, in the border of Benjamin at Zelzah; and they will say unto thee, The asses which thou wentest to seek are found; and, lo, thy father hath left off caring for the asses, and is anxious for you, saying, What shall I do for my son?
3 Then shalt thou go on forward from thence, and thou shalt come to the oak of Tabor; and there shall meet thee there three men going up to God to Beth-el, one carrying three kids, and another carrying three loaves of bread, and another carrying a bottle of wine:
4 and they will salute thee, and give thee two loaves of bread, which thou shalt receive of their hand.
5 After that thou shalt come to the hill of God, where is the garrison of the Philistines: and it shall come to pass, when thou art come thither to the city, that thou shalt meet a band of prophets coming down from the high place with a psaltery, and a timbrel, and a pipe, and a harp, before them; and they will be prophesying:
6 and the Spirit of Jehovah will come mightily upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man.
7 And let it be, when these signs are come unto thee, that thou do as occasion shall serve thee; for God is with thee.
8 And thou shalt go down before me to Gilgal; and, behold, I will come down unto thee, to offer burnt-offerings, and to sacrifice sacrifices of peace-offerings: seven days shalt thou tarry, till I come unto thee, and show thee what thou shalt do.
9 And it was so, that, when he had turned his back to go from Samuel, God gave him another heart: and all those signs came to pass that day.
ANOTHER SIGN OF THE TRINITY -
WHEN THE SPIRIT - THE HOLY SPIRIT,
OF JEHOVAH - THE FATHER,
COMES UPOM THEE - THE HUMAN SAUL,
HE WOULD BECOME ANOTHER MAN,
THAT IS - THE SON OF GOD/A MESSIAH,
AS KING.
AS IN THE 9th VERS,
HE RECEIVED A NEW HEART,
WHICH WILL COME TO ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT JEHOVAH WILL MAKE WITH ISRAEL.
GOD BLESS ISRAEL WITH THIS NEW COVENANT.
BOTH PLACES OF SCRIPTURE OF THE TRINITY I HAVE WRITTEN,
ARE JEWISH OLD TESTAMENT,
AND IF THEY WERE WRONG TRANSLATED,
THE JEWS WOULD HAVE RESPONDED TO THAT.
Orao.
| ORAO STRANKA. , |
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56. There were more Christians killed by Nazi Europe than Jews.
Where is the Christian homeland? Where is the Messianic Jewish homeland? The Israeli Supreme Court last year ruled that Messianic Jews have the right to live in Israel. So Israel will become home to Messianic Jews if not Christians one day. For a long time, Jews were the messenger people without the message of the Messiah. They were the messenger people with the commandments the Christians fail to follow, forgetting their Messiah said those who love him would obey the commandments.
Shortly, Jews will become the messenger people with the message of the Messiah coming as the Lion of Judah, telling the world to go back to the Saturday Shabbat and the commandments that the Messiah followed.
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57. At # 55
Your understanding and interpretations are wrong.
The Father (God), The Son (Jesus) and The Holy Spirit are three different beings. Not the same being.
Jesus called himself God's son, and he called God his father.
On the cross Jesus prayed to God. He did not pray to himself.
The Holy Spirit was given to the apostles at Whitsun (Pentecost).
It was the emperor Constantine who decided that the foremost prophet of Christianity (Jesus) should be claimed God because he thought this would make it easier to "sell" Christianity to the deity worshipping Romans.
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58. To #44 Please read about classic anti-Semitism and John
As I said before (read post 16), " The Gospel of John has Jesus call the Jews "sons of the devil."
Do not quote an anti-Semite who, in order to grasp power, turned against the beliefs of Jesus . Is this what you use to justify YOUR beliefs? Then you truly are an anti-Semite ... thus an anti-Jesus person.
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59. # 53
Paal ! you are wrong,Jesus was not God's son,Jesus was God's only nephew,whom God loved most,and Jesus refered to God as uncle God.Why do christians concentrate on the life and death of Jesus and his leanage,and reject his teachings of love and brotherhood ?.Human sacrifice is strongly forbidden in Judaism,The Prophets of Israel all along stormed against this pagan custom,so why would the God of Israel demand the sacrifice of Jesus ? beside, in Judaism nobody can volunter to die in place of the sinner,neither can a sinner hire a surrogate to die in his place:Ish Beheto yamut(only the transgressor can be prosecuted) Churches in Europe are empty,so,it would be good for christians to join the Sinagogue of Jesus,who was an orthodox Jew.Judaism is so rich in spirituality and humanity,especially,the Talmud,which contains so much visdom and wit,as the prophet said,From Zion comes forth Torah,and God's word from Jerusalem.
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60. #53,55,57
O People of the Book [Christians and Jews]! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. Quran 4:171
Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. Quran 5:75
[Jesus] said: Surely I am a servant of God; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet. Quran 19:30
In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Quran 5:17
They do blaspheme who say: "God is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship God, my Lord and your Lord." Quran 5:72
And behold! God will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Quran 5:116
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