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Settlers call on PM to reject two-state solution
Efrat Weiss
Published: 14.05.09, 22:11
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1. SETTLERS REJECT
Martin ,   Johannesburg North   (05.15.09)
SETTLERS REJECT A strong message is needed. We need a build up strategy of lots more people, lots more to remind him his voters expect him to stand up to his undertaking. He must report to his electorate. He does not have a blank cheque like Olmert thought he had. We have one precious country and a proud nation. This is not pragmatism this is our soul and our security. The Arabs have set us up by not allowing Gazans’ and others to dwell anywhere. Gaza is an Arab created and devised prison. They do not allow freedom of movement and are hostile to strangers and brothers alike. Why should we endanger ourselves? Obama and his team sit 10000 km away. They have little to loose. We do not have to apologize nor do we need to impress. Its time we took responsibility for our concerns and recognised our reality. Eretz Yisroel is not for sale- it is our defence line. We need to be wary of the use of political leverage such as Iran and the NPT and Golan. We have a capability as a defence not as a toy to attack. Iran is trying to find excuses for threatening like retaliating for the '81 incursion. Iran is a regional issue not only our concern. Golan is part of a defence line based on irresponsibility. Syria lost it through bad behaviour not by our choice. The US and the democrats want to tell us we must trust and trust and trust. We must be categoric, our neighbours have earned a track record of bad behaviour, belligerence and disregard for neighbour tenure Thus this indiscretion allows the Neighbouring states to face up to the forfeiture of the territories that were taken into our domain for the sake of a defence line not a whim of our need expand. If they are upset let them regret these actions and ask for forgiveness. They brought the losses on themselves. We do not have to apologize for being intransigent or as its called right wing. Rather, what is right is right; we had and have no choices. If Gaza starts up again they should forfeit their right to govern themselves without restriction. We must all speak up now. There are far too many pragmatists and too few realists. In few years time our neighbours will come to terms with the feit acomple and forget all this and carry on accepting they give us no other choice. We are in these places as defence line. We are not attacking anyone. They rearm even now as if they have all the rights. We must remind the world and all those say two states _ go and fight your battles and defend your kin and we will do exactly that. We need not yield an inch to please our sworn enemies. They chose and continue to choose not to recognise our right to exist. They made that choice. We do not need to please anyone. We need to defend and retain our lines. Obama must keep his word to the Jewish leadership and electorate. He said he would respect our democratic right. Olmert negotiated without referring back to his people. We do not accept his and Kadima's gestures. We re-iterate we have no choice but stand firm for the sake of long-term stability in the region.
2. Kol ha Kavod Yehudim in Yehuda and everywhere
Kerwood Derby ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (05.14.09)
Of course you should live your lives in the land of your own name without those who come to extort and mass-murder you for your land that they made no sovereign claim to when they controlled it prior to '67. Prior to '67, they claimed only your land within the Auschwitz lines. Now that you control more of your homeland (still less then 22% of your internationally mandated homeland), they want that (YoSh) too to become Judenrein (G-d willing, they don't liberate Azza too. Hopefully Shalit is still a living Jewish presence). May you live in peace in the land of your people and your own name and may those that come to kill you have their right of return back to their homicidal, Hamit, peninsular homeland of their own name so you won't have to kill them when they come to kill you. G-d forbid that you are killed and that your government make your people more vulnerable by ceding land to those that come to genocidaly mass-murder you in the land of your own name.
3. If they had their way...
Zion22   (05.14.09)
If they had their way, all the Israel bashers in the world would be right and Israel would be an aparthied state like south africa was. Two states for two peoples is the only way to save the Zionist dream. Im not saying that the two state paradigm is without problems or concerns but it is the only solution that will save the State of Israel from itself. I can only pray that Netanyahu realizes this and doesnt listen to the ultra-nationalist fanatics. AM YISRAEL CHAI
4. A 2-State Solution Already Exists!
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (05.14.09)
It's called Jordan and Israel and what Obama wants is one state for Jews and three and a half states for Palestinian Arabs. It's nice to know that there are people in this country for whom history did not begin in the year 1950...
5. one people one country
American ,   US   (05.14.09)
amen v' amen! these folks who have been constructed by the media in the world as he problem, are actually the solution! they are the real pioneers of these times, unafraid to speak truth. There should be no room for another Arab country in the region, particularly not in the land of Israel! enough with Jordan! no citizenship for arabs who are no loyal to a Jewish state (no rights, nothing!). keep settling the promised land by any means. America is the example! look at what the pioneers on the 19th century did when moving West, settling the country, civilizing the wild, and making a paradise in earth! the Indians and Hispanics gain a lot by becoming loyal Americans (paying taxes, learning English, serving in the army). Without that spirit of expansion of civilization, America would have stayed as a primitive land. Reconstructing Israel is a mandate, a mitzvah. Thank you to the settlers. God bless you, God bless Israel, and God bless America.
6. 2 STATE FOR 2 BLABLABLABLABLA
Michael ,   Jerusalem   (05.14.09)
Vatican : 2 state for 2 people White House : 2 state for 2 blabla Syria : Golan for peaceblabla Jordan : peacelabla or warblabla Peace Now : Ussama my love Europe : 2 state for 2 blabla G.d says 1 Home for My People and If I can add, thanks to our muslims and christians "brothers" for helping us taking decisions but we are more than 2000 years older than you and know how it should go without your crappy blabla.
7. Israel has been for negotiation without preconditions
observer   (05.14.09)
do you believe that? has Israel been fooling everyone?
8. THESE are the real Jews
Mike ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (05.14.09)
May your words be multiplied a thousand fold
9. GREAT EXPECTATIONS
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (05.14.09)
Without a doubt Bibi will sell us out and cave in, because he wants to be liked. This is precisely what ails our Herzelist Israelis, because they have disconnected themselves from their roots. Their dislike for their own heritage runs so deep, that they are desperate for some recognition from anyone they think, they will get it from. They still have not discovered that the more they grovel and the more they bow down, the more they get hated by the world. In a way one needs to feel sorry for such weak, mislead and misguided lost souls. The whole concept of a two state solution, was started by these same big mouth arrogant Israelis, who never accepted the 6 day war as a miracle. Instead they rather piss this gift away, all in the name of some false humanist twisted rubbish.
10. The faces of Israeli Apartheid and immorality.
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11. *Sigh* To the Palestinians that hate the settlers.
Aaron ,   SF, USA   (05.14.09)
All of the settlers could have been gone if your leaders accepted the offers given to them.....8 times.
12. The land of milk and honey belong to the
Maria ,   MD   (05.15.09)
12 Tribes of Israel only.The Arabs[now Palestinians]belong to Jordan.
13. A Who's Who Of The Worst Of Israel!!
David ,   Los Angeles   (05.15.09)
14. 1 state solution
Arab ,   Cairo,Egypt   (05.15.09)
Arabs believe in 1 state solution also Palestine and the Jews can go back to their countries.
15. The choice is simple - settlements or peace.
Jacob ,   Cambridge, England   (05.15.09)
Israel can continue to maintain and expand its settlements. Or it can have peace and security. It will not be able to do both. Whatever your views on the ethics of the settlements, pretty much all of them will have to go if Israel wants peace. The question now is whether or not it does.
16. Those Thieves Dictate Zionist Policy
RJBH ,   Methil   (05.15.09)
Nothing New there then
17. Yes but 58% of all Israelis want a two solution!
(05.15.09)
So why should we let these hooligans try and ram their way down our throats! Forget about it!
18. Bless the settler Jews who cherish the birthright given them
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (05.15.09)
by Hashem. Certainly a lot of secular Jews and a lot of American Jews who don't really understand what G-d gave them are happy to give away land paid for with Jewish blood. In the Torah, G-d gave all of Israel to the Jews, not for a year or a hundred years, but forever. Jews died to return Jerusalem to the Jews, don't give it away to a terrorist because the whiners, moaners and groaners are whining moaning and groaning. They will get over it sooner or later.
19. 2 state solution
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (05.15.09)
Today, Abbas Zaki, "moderate" Abbas' henchmen said that he supports the "2 stay solution" because it will lead to the destruction of Israel and ethnic cleansing of the Jews. Is it any wonder that the Zionists are against this solution.
20. u guys obviuosly dont no what one state is
bob ,   nyc   (05.15.09)
Unfortunately if we made one state for one people the people would be the palestenians because that would make them have the majortity in the cabinet... so lets just get rid of them by making to seperate states and still have israel instead of one state that is palestine... i dont get why all the right wingers want one state.. unless they want one state without giving the people rights, which is definitely not the right thing to do so we have two choices 1 israeli state and 1 palestinain or 1 palestinian our optioins arent great but the 1st option isnt even half bad,,,,
21. Yesha is every Israeli Jew's country - Why aren't other Jews
Marcella   (05.15.09)
joining them in protest? It's quite clear by now that shrinking the country (to 11 miles wide in some areas) and creating a sovereign state of Palestine next to your towns will result in the end of Israel. Nobody can claim ignorance. Israelis have had the preview with Gaza. Cede land, and get rockets in return. Palestinian Authority representative in Lebanon Abbas Zaki said recently that the two-state solution is his preferred approach, as it will lead to Israel’s collapse. Zaki said that Jews and Israelis “perceive of Jerusalem as having a spiritual status. They relate to Judea and Samaria as a historic dream. If the Jews leave these places, the Zionist idea will begin to collapse of itself – and then we will move forward.” The interview was brought to the Western eye by Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). Everybody can see what this "Peace" is all about. So why aren't Israelis demonstrating en masse against the partition of the land? A land that was already partitioned by the British to create Jordan, in violation of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine. Just look at the map and see how much land the Arabs have. This conflict is not about land. It's about the desire to destroy Israel. So why aren't all Israeli Jews protesting?
22. We need a THREE STATE SOLUTION
Chaim   (05.15.09)
One for those of us who want to live normal lives in a Jewish state (Secular/Traditional majority), one for the Palestinians, and one for the settlers and Haredim who, since they seem to be so keen on colonizing Arab land, can sacrifice their own lives for the crazy cause.
23. To #3,10,13 and specialy #15
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron-Israel   (05.15.09)
Dear friends, You all seem to have the same problem, you are much more worried about what the "world" may say about us. Though, most of you live outside Israel or are afraid of stating where. Can any of you explain me what's basically wrong about the concept "peace for peace" instead of "land for peace"? Oslo and the 2 state solution has proved an imposible situation if we want our grandson to be in Israel!
24. No Two States
DT ,   TA Israel   (05.15.09)
I'm no settler but I agree with them "No "to any two state solution
25.  They prefer
Mike Van Harris ,   Antwerp Belgium   (05.15.09)
They prefer a one way ticket to where they came from.
26. #8 are the rest that bad?
observer   (05.15.09)
27. To number 12 Maria
Mike Van Harris ,   Antwerp Belgium   (05.15.09)
Palestine belongs to the people of Palestine. who are Jewish moslemes and christians respectedly. Jewish is not a country, its a religion.
28. #22- We Need A FOUR State Solution
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, israel   (05.15.09)
The fourth state is for crazy Israeli anti-Semites who are "so keen" on spewing anti-Haredi remarks at every opportunity.
29. Hashemites want to divorce from palistine
Martin ,   JHB   (05.15.09)
Jordan you are the state no 2. Lets work together. Lets find peace. Bibi you tried and the new fellow was too fearful to accept his charge. Persevere, encourage him not walk away. Obama you are getting entangled in the wrong solution. We have a solution so stop and call our friend from Jordan, encourage them. Whatever you do as you know is right and its wrong. Talk to Jordan let them asume their responsibility given and accepted by them in the partions before you and I were born. We dont need new solutions. The arabs are confusing you they want a one state solution. They keep saying they dont recognise us. Default solution is best let them sort out there problem between themselves. Let them confront each other. They have lots of land. Eretz Yisroel despite being forthright with murderrers and terrorist are humane we have proved this in each of the wars we fought. Our track record is good not perfect. Dont be side tracked. Don't go down to a dead end road and expect us to accept it to please you and your counterparts. Deal with the reality of Iran and North Korea. We can help you discover your reality. Are you looking for a real mission even Egypt Saudis and others will be pleased with you. Just because you follow the route travelled before does not make that wrong, Follow a roadmap proposed by the Holy One and be blessed . Dont be side tracked by Demographics of the world and use that as basis to dump us. In doing so you dump a lot of other friends. The definition of terrorism has not changed. The Twin Tower can be rebuild and rebombed. Look to the Mid-West they will tell you where you can earn your blessing for you and your people. We would like your country to stay our friends. We are not your 55th state. Stop telling what to do. Help us find an appropriate way forward The axis of good needs to work together and retain our high ground. Bibi N when you confront your Maker as you approach Obama remember He is there with you both. Fear not. Search your innerself for renewed fortitude. Dont be pulled into this wrong route. Im in a state, all the other states exist. Continue to work with Jordan. They need to be convinced and encouraged Do that rather. Two states Jordan and Eretz Chalav u Dvash.
30. Mike #8
Avi-former Sruggie ,   Israel   (05.18.09)
If what you say is true unto the end then not only Zionism but also Israel is already on the path to death. Chas ve'shalom!
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