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Ministerial committee: Ban Nakba Day
Aviad Glickman
Published: 24.05.09, 18:40
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31. BEST NAKBA TRIBUTE WHEN PALSTINIANS TOPPLE JEWISH OCCUPATION
JOJO ,   USA   (05.24.09)
That will be mother of all commemorations.
32. #28 ANARCHY is NOT DEMOCRACY
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (05.24.09)
... and no, we DO NOT have to put up with everything these murderous and racists throw at us. In Germany Nazi symbols are against the law. Does that mean that Germany is not democratic? Does that mean that Germany is moving towards the Iranian model? So Democracy, in order to protect itself CAN and SHOULD enforce certain laws which are decided upon DEMOCRATICALLY. In this case, the democratically-elected Israeli government - THE MAJORITY - hopefully will decide for a law to limit the amount of racist incitement and calls for the destruction of Israel. Why Germany is allows to ban Nazi symbols and Israel is not allowed to protect itself against racist and violent demonstrations? Because we are Jews? If you think otherwise, then you are a racist or an Anarchist or both, and that will explain your patheic rape of the SPIRIT and MEANING of DEMOCRACY..
33. #31 Best tribute is when US deports you back to Iran
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (05.25.09)
... and please DO HOLD YOUR BREATH waiting for "palstinians" to "topple" the Jewish "ocupation". If you are able to assemple so many stupid mistakes (and so much racism) into one sentence, then maybe oxygen deprivation is the best thing that can happen to your single brain cell.
34. Useless, damaging motion.
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (05.25.09)
As someone who can hardly be suspected as having any sympathy toward Nakba Day - I completely agree with MK Eitan on this matter. This motion is extremely damaging to our image as a democracy with freedom of expression. What's more, it cannot be enforced. The only thing it serves, is to stir up more conflict, and fuel the arguments of Israel's Arab, of Israel supposedly being an 'Apartheid' state, where Arabs' rights are infringed. We can, and we SHOULD - forbid people from threatening our country's security and integrity, by means of incitement to terror. However we must not overdo it, and not let this develop into fully-blown fascism. A democracy cannot forbid people to express grief, no matter how sordid and revolting their opinions are. After all, we are not like the backwards, totalitarian Arab countries. We pride ourselves on being a democracy.
35. All democracies have laws against subversion of the State
Nemesis   (05.25.09)
If people held events declaring the birth of France, Italy or Germany a catastrophe to be overturned by all possible means, they would be in jail real pronto, and none of the lefty talkbackers who condemn this law as undemocratic would mouth a peep, either.
36. #32 utter nonsense
Gabriel   (05.25.09)
Israel is not banning a symbol (which I don't think should be banned in Germany anyway) they are banning the act of demonstrating. The act of demonstrating itself should be sacrosanct. You can have it one of two ways, either demonstrations are allowed or they aren't. The majority of Israelis think the Gush Gatif protesters were insulting with the way they protested (yellow stars, etc..) should they have been banned? Democracy is not simply about majority rules. It must also have widespread basic rights held by all citizens. (Freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of religion, etc...) Otherwise, democracy easily slips into fascism. According to your logic, the world's repuslive treatment of Jews was the ultimate democratic act. I mean, if beating/murdering Jews were decided upon by the majority of people, it would be undemocratic not to beat/murder them! Reading talkbacks on Ynet it is depressing to see how much anti-democratic fervour there is. (As well as the "if they don't like it leave" which could just as well be used for Jews complaining of suicide attacks.) Democracy for all or democracy for none is the only way.
37. #27 - "Liberal" and "Open-minded" used together is oxymoron
William ,   Israel   (05.25.09)
Your post only underscores your ignorance and the fact that you're from MA (Boston, no doubt), like I am, pains me greatly. When Jews celebrate Tisha B'Av or remember Yom HaShoa (Holocaust Day) - they do so ONLY to remember the dead and give honor. Not ONE Jew calls for the destruction of any country or people. However, compare that to Nakba Day which Arabs claim is simply to remember their dead or refugeed but always turns into an attack on Israel's legitimacy and the call to dismantle the country, throwing Jews into the sea. The Nakba is a provocation, used to whip up emotions, spread revisionism that ignores Arab racist attacks on unarmed Jews over 88 years ago, and absolute calls to destroy Israel. This should be illegal, as it is in all democratic countries.
38. #36 - completely myopic conclusion
William ,   Israel   (05.25.09)
Israel is not banning a demonstration because it dislikes demonstrations or disagrees with the message. Nakba Day went on for decades without govt intervention but over the past 5 years several elements within the Arab community have used these venues of democracy to create subversion, make calls to dismantle the very State they receive benefits from, and even though the small minority, demand the State be run by and for Arabs. They supported violent protests and the demonstrations of known terror groups, such as that by the PFLP that was to take place in Haifa. This isn't about a peaceful demonstration, it's the result of a progressing precedent towards violence and traitorous activities. If Democracy is for all, then too is the obligation towards the State and community for all. When the Arabs agree to their obligations, they can (and should) enjoy democracy, as do the Druze, Bedouins, Jews, Circassians, B'hai, and Samaritans.
39. #31: How many times must I tell you how
Abe   (05.25.09)
to spell your name right - YO YO! And Get your strings untangled!!!
40. Democracy be damned?
Aharon   (05.25.09)
That seems to be the attitude of the Netanyahu government - "democracy be damned, you'll conform to our views or else!" As a Jew, I find "Nakba Day" abhorrent. To me, mourning over the coming into being of my state is an abomination. But at the same time, I have no right to dictate that view to others - we don't have thought police here. If someone wants to believe that Israel's birth was a catastrophe and mark that 'catastrophe' in some non-violent way, I haven't the right nor will to stop them.
41. only the arabs make memorial day
ghostq   (05.25.09)
they created, they eternelize the fact they started the war and lost, mmm not very wise.
42. #20 why always linking bad things to the Jews?
observer   (05.25.09)
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