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Looter returns cash to Palestinian
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 26.05.09, 17:04
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1. WELL
BEN ,   SINGAPORE   (05.26.09)
THAT DISGRACEFUL IDF SOLDIER MUST RETURN 10 TIME THE STOLEN AMOUNT ( 10x 400 ) ! DISHONORABLE DISMISSAL ! BULLYING THE POOR NOT ACCEPTABLE !
2. SOLDIER GAVE BACK MONEY
tania   (05.26.09)
What the soldier did is wrong. It is a great step forward that the government is doing something about the looting and that the soldier is giving the money back WITH INTEREST. #1 Ben from Singapore, how many other countries would be taking a soldier to court for this? War is time for looting in many countries the world over.
3. # 2 tania
BEN ,   SINGAPORE   (05.26.09)
Jewish Ethics dosent provide rights to find excuse for behaviors that seems unkind, it is not the Govt and is not the Court,the issue here ,it is the SOLDIER who dragged the IDF down with his greed and selfish desire- He committed the very thing he is forbidden to do- THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT THEFT ! As such, there is no need to compare the practise of looting as a common act in other countries.Look at it on the merits of the fact of this case alone. Look at the photo by Ynet - Looting soldier in court Photo by : Tsafrir Abayov. IT IS SELF -EXPLANATORY ! Legal ethics is not moral ethics or normative ethics. Jewish Ethics is much finer , harsh and burdensome , because Jewish Ethics dosent contains formulas to make excuses or water down the mens reus ( fault elements) and actus reus( physical elements ). You put the book on your head and think from the holy grounds.If you are a Jew, you know the degree of seriousness of the acts an ommisison of this Soldier who oppressed the poor and looting what is not his ! During the Jewish holocaust, the jews were looted by the Jermans and the catholic church, did we let the world forget the looting? Now , the same Justice applies here !
4. are they going to put war criminals in court
mures   (05.26.09)
every soldier that killed women and children should go to war crimes court.
5. return
pali ,   usa   (05.26.09)
Never minde about the small theif, how about the big one, the state of israel stealing for the last 61 years, land water , lives,. playing honest, you can't fool the world any more.
6. congrates!, NIS has attained higher rate
observer   (05.26.09)
a weak ago, the sum of money was less than $400 and now it's 405. then, who will pay the extra-fine. that little rascal attorney is $10 extravagant. Poor soldier!
7. To #1 The pali hump was suspected of
jason white ,   afula,israel   (05.26.09)
terrorism. Is he a poor terrorist. Should have let him suffer the loss.
8. Right on Tania-we have morals!!
Ilana   (05.26.09)
and even when the Gazan is a terrorist!!! Bizarre world. Perhaps the Gazan will also be made to write a letter of apology: sorry for wanting to murder you, your family and friends. And sorry for murdering others-how can I pay them back?
9. Boo Hoo Hoo
Yaron ,   USA   (05.26.09)
If you and yours was not so belligerent and rejectionist, you would be eating Humus in Jaffa today. You are the only people in the world who have duped everyboday into believing the most untennable falsehoods. Get your house in order and you will find a much more willing partner then your arab brothers and sisters who abandoned you. I really pity you because you have been failed by your leadership and then brainwashed to believe you have ANY rights to ANYTHING. If you think the land was stolen, take Israel to court....otherwise keep your slander and lies to yourself, ok?
10. Absurd comments
Robert Haymond ,   Ashdod, Israel   (05.26.09)
The soldier was caught, paid the amount he stole with interest and is now going to Court to be tried and, if found guilty, to be sentenced. This is as it should be in spite of the fact that the man he stole from was a suspected terrorist. As far as Jewish land theft from "Palestinians", there was enough room for all of us to reside together before 1948. Through hard work, we (Jews) turned the swamps and desert into arable land. You refused to share then and since. Now you (Palestinian Arabs) claim it. We have as much right as you to be here. You call us "occupiers" because anyone other than Arab Moslems living in the mideast are considered outsiders. We have 1.5 million Moslems in our country. We are out of Gaza completely. We have infrstructure in the Westbank. We belong in Judea and Samaria as much as you do. While you consider your "refugees" to be legitemate citizens of "Palestine", you have also failed to integrate them in Lebanon, Jordan and Syria, We integrated under great pressure(within ten years) all our refugees from all mideastern and North African Arab (and Persian) countries. As Golda Meir repeated, "We were too successful." We didn't keep our people in refugee camps to gain pity from the international community. You keep them there because you Arabs do not understand (and, except in a few instances during your own histories) what it would be to promote the social good. You are, in fact, disgraces, always blaming the "other" for your own deficits. As to the refugees, most left their homes because they were promised by the (Nazi) Mufti of Jerusalem and his ilk, that they could return once the war was won (by the coalition of Arab nations). Some left because they were alien to Jewish interest during wartime. Some were allowed to return. The number of refugees varies according to which body made the count: Israel-550,000; UN-725,000;Arab sources-825,000. The number of Jews who left Arab countries during the outbreak of the War of Independence and for the first few years thereafter was 850,000. All had to leave without their property (stolen by the various Arab countries from which they came) and under dire threat. As noted, we integrated our refugees because we cared about them. Arabs (with some exceptions such as the Druse in Israel) care about their socalled "honour" and revenge rather than the actual good of their people. I am tired by the international slander you have managed to cast on Israel. Most current Jewish Israelis feel the same. We are going to continue to exist and thrive in Eretz Yisrael. If you wish to benefit your people, advocate for a peaceful and cooperative solution. Each terror attack against us and each missile launch only makes us more persevering and less likely to accomodate you!
11. @ 1 "suspected of acts of terror"
BEN ,   SINGAPORE   (05.26.09)
is NOT CONCLUSIVE ! TERRORIST are TERRORIST , it is the poor Arabs that choose to join terrorist activities and the rich Arabs mastermind the whole act of TERRORISM. The Arabs, also STOLE the land of the Jews,- The Temple, the Land, they cant fool the world anymore ! The Arabs a BIG THEIF in every aspect of live and LIFEs from the days of Islamic Imperialism and Islamic Golden Age of TERROR ANF THEFT ! Having said that the Point here is that, the IDF soldier is clearly wrong ! We check our children and chastise our children first and heal him from his corrupt ways. We got to strike a balance,between mercy and severity. Ensure that , In future he covers his head with the prayer shawl but not with the piece of cloth as een on the photo from shame and deprivaty. Salvage him and bring him home- build him for a better life. Poverty has a vicious cycle over a man life, Such is the case in the lifes of both- the gazaan and the IDF soldier here. One knew the quran, the other knew the Torah. BUT both forgot their obligations to be good neighbours ! There is no need to PLAY BLIND and justify the acts and ommission of that soldier. And at the same time we msut not abandon our children. We bring him home. THAT IS ALL !and the law is given the due respect, and it is done !He is dealth with severly already. Let this be a LESSON for the IDF Soldiers in FUTURE ! As for the TERRORIST WE WILL CONTINUE BLASTING THEM !
12. good first step. now return our land and leave.
sami ,   son of palestine   (05.26.09)
13. Sami
Al   (05.26.09)
you can have a piece of Fresh Kills. Hopefully you'd be better running it than you have so far.
14. #12 to Sami, son of southern Syria
Raphael ,   Netanya   (05.26.09)
First refund 3 years' salary you owe to Gilad Shalit
15. To: Robert at No. 10
Sarah ,   New York City, USA   (05.26.09)
Bravo! Brilliant analysis. Sarah
16. Hey Sami
Yaron ,   USA   (05.26.09)
Why don't you go back to Egypt, Syria, or Jordan? Like the name matters....the are all cesspools. You arabs have defied all rules of sensibility and continue to wallow in your misery and blame others. You have almost turned into a sport....sport of losers that is!
17. Stealing the credit card was a stupid crime of opportunity.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (05.27.09)
Withdrawing the money was a calculated and stupid crime. Once he was caught, he had no choice but to give it back and he awaits a trial. He needs to be discharged because if he will steal, he will steal from anyone including the IDF and that makes him dangerous. We can only hope that he will become honest and that the terrorist he stole from will also be punished for the explosives in his home. The terrorist should not get a free pass because a soldier acted in a corrupt manner.
18. To Ben #1
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (05.27.09)
I order Kung Pao Chicken not Kung Pao Shrimp - You disgraceful you rip me off!
19. #10
Stephane   (05.27.09)
Well written and 100% correct. Excellent analysis!! Bravo!!
20.  TO # 18 Seth
BEN ,   SINGAPORE   (05.28.09)
You may EAT BOTH of your suggestion, you order that you pay the price .I am Kosher my food is cheaper and kosher :) well come to Singapore :-)
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