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Survey: Pro-Israel lobby should support Bibi's policies     Ynetnews
1. Who died and made Israelis the boss of all the Jews???
David ,   Los Angeles   (06.15.09)
2. US Jews are in fact jewish Americans...
...who don't give a shit about Israel and only care about their precious integration into the american way of life, except for the orthodox minority.
ezra ,   canada   (06.15.09)
3. YOU MEAN STRENGTHEN TIES TO REPUBLICANS !
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (06.15.09)
4. Don't tell us what to do!
This is the height of hypocrisy. Whenever Diaspora Jews or even friendly foreign governments make suggestions, give advice, make comments or criticisms of Israel, its government, its army, its occupation, its settlers, what's the reaction? Do not meddle in our affairs! Do not express these views - you don't live here, wear the uniform, pay the taxes etc etc. Well here's the shoe on the other foot. Every Jewish taxi-driver and his grandma out here in the Galut, should be yelling at Bnal Brit and the other reactionaries behind this, and the 'source close to the Prime Minister' or the 'senior Foreign Office adviser' who promoted this nonsense, paid for by another right wing do-goodie Netanyahu friend, not to tell US what to do. Keep off! Keep your noses out of our affairs! You don't live here! You don't pay our taxes! How dare you! This is a sign of how desperate Bibi and cronies are. The Cairo speech demanded more than the obfuscation of the Bar Ilan speech. Despite White House encouragement, what Bibi offered was so paltry as to be insignificant. The words '2 State Solution' did not pass his lips. That he defied Israel's best friend over the settlement freeze is appalling and it won't go away because of a Bnai Brit appeal to the old neo-con Zionists of the Galut. In this new world, for this new generation of Jews who voted Obama, there is no more patience for delay and denial. What we want is the end to the Israel-Palestine conflict, genuine and real final status talks, not some Golda inspired rhetoric. Yes the other side is divided but who contributed to that? Its time for Israel to make real moves. Until it does, stop this 'appeal above the heads of the Administration' tactic. This is no longer the old Israel-Diaspora era when Israel tugged at the heart-strings and the money chute in the Diaspora started spouting currency and support. Too many young Jews do not see Israel as the priority it once was and you can't blame all the usual suspects for that. Look at yourselves, look in the mirror, see the truth and start doing the right thing. Its time already!
True Zionist ,   New York   (06.15.09)
5. us jews and jews around the world
have to BACK israel. otherwise we can disappear.
sas ,   israel   (06.15.09)
6. bibi
all jews should follow BIBI. he is our leader - not the dumb, uneducated obama who only knows how to speak in front of crowds but cannot solve a single issue on his own. he appears top be a total failure. time will tell. he will be a black carter. michelle why did you return to him?????????????? he really is good for nothing.
sad ,   israel   (06.16.09)
7. Bibi's approach a lot more reasoned than that of Obama
The problem, however, is that for too many US Jews, especially the younger cohort, their "religion" is liberalism. They're completely in the tank for Obama. I know; my own brother is one of them (and like many, he's never even visited Israel). Even the leadership is moving leftward. The new heads of both AIPAC and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations are active supporters of Obama. AIPAC activists even sent out their members to promote a "two state" policy only vaguely more responsible than that of J Street. Bibi's approach *should* be supported as it's more reasoned and more realistic than the slanted approach Obama has been pushing. But clearly Bibi and his people have a lot of work to do.
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (06.15.09)
8. Israeli's are that stupid?
Israel has not realized that all the Jews must keep America happy is a disaster waiting to happen? The USA has already shown they are turning on Israel and the Israeli's are falling for it and showing they will do anything for peace? In the name of peace the Israeli's should stand right in the face of America and other countries and say; "Enough is Enough" give us respect as a country of mind your own business! Obama is a puppet with the strings leading to the One Worlders. He has not power it's the ones that are controlling him. These that are controlling him also are 100% against Israel almost like Peres is against being 100% for Israel . Please for Israel's sake let the Lord God be your strength and friend. Trusting on enemies and future enemies is not the key for peace. Backbone is the key for peace!!!
Steve West ,   Lakeland, FL USA   (06.15.09)
9. most american jews are good for nothing
if israelis honestly believe that most american jews care a hoot about israel, they are sorely mistaken. most american jews are jews by name only: they have no significant jewish identity and are not religious. The only jews who care at all about israel are the orthodox ("modern" as well as haredi). a few conservatives and reform might profess their jewish identity, but when they have to choose between being an obama zombie and supporting the jews in israel, they don't have to think too long.
david ,   new york   (06.16.09)
10. The truth, the whole truth, and nothig but
I happen to have a friend who is very senior in the Israeli military. He instructs americans, germans, french, indians and of course israelis at an elite level in counter terrorism. The reason why the other countries come to learn in Israel is for one reason. The Israelis "LIVE" the reality of real threats and don't just have to "train" for it... they have to know how to really deal with, perfectly... every time. That's the difference between the Jews of the diaspora, and those Jews who live in Israel. Living in Israel is about being and protecting the Land of Israel and therefore allowing the Jews of the diaspora the freedom to live comfortably in other lands. It's damn hard work. Without Israel, no one else could live the cushy life they do elsewhere. We all OWE... YES THATS RIGHT,,, I SAID WE "OWE" the citizens of Israel, the soldiers who defend it and the courageous individuals that sacrifice their very lives there. So yes... I say yes... if they think we should provide them more support... then damit, it's the least we can do. And don't tell me that "we send them all the money"... let me tell you, how much bloody easier it is to send money... not that it's not veryyyyyy much appreciated.. but try living there, serving in the IDF, surviving injuries, the trauma of suicide bombings and the burying of not just our own... but our own children. And tha's all I've got to say about that!!!
David Rosenberg ,   Toronto, Canada   (06.16.09)
11. Obama is a liar.
If Netanyahu reconciles with Obama. He will come out on the short end of the stick. When will the American Jewish organizations learn???
David Powell ,   Everett, DPRSSA   (06.16.09)
12. Asking for disloyalty?
"pro-Israel lobby in the US should always support the policies of the current Israeli government," So 57% of Israelis think US Jews should be disloyal to America and support Israeli policies instead of US policies? And they are saying this with a straight face?
America First ,   NYC   (06.16.09)
13. #4 Is 100% correct and #6 you need to work on
your logic - "Obama is uneducated" he graduated Harvard Law... I think most would concur that makes him pretty educated. You need to get some cohesion in your thoughts; right now your just hurling invective.
AY_Lamb ,   USA   (06.16.09)
14. REASONING PREJUDICE OUT OF A MAN WHEN IT'S NOT REASONED IN..
the problem with this formula is that we know what we're up against, how can a leopard be anything less then a leopard, it just is, no lobby can make that leopard anything else
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (06.16.09)
15. Ezra #2
Your comment is insulting and abnoxious. Let me guess, you Maple Leafs know everything about what goes on in the American Jewish community? You would do yourself some good by carefully measuring your words ahead of making them public.
Yaron ,   USA   (06.16.09)
16. #4 Anger Management
Your comments are very interesting. Israel has done more for peace over the last 15 years then anyone could have ever expected. BTW, the American Jews who voted for Obama are Israel's worst enemies. The apathy and indifference of American Jewry to Israel is a disturbing trend but not something that Israel is guilty of. American Jews are narccisistic at best and too self-indulged at worst to care. Don't confuse these facts with the righteousness of the Obama arguement....if we just appease and capitulate our enemies they will love us. Don't forget to wave your white flag before you go to bed tonight!
Yaron ,   USA   (06.16.09)
17. WHO WANTS PEACE!
What concessions would Israel have to make to have 100% peaceful Palistinian state? If what was offered by UN in 1948 was unacceptable to Arabs then......why would a situation that provides significantly less......be a relable basis for peace now? Is there ever going to emerge Palestinian leadership that speaks for all Palestinians? What Bibi offered is unrealistic. What self-respecting nation would accept such limits ("unarmed.".."not in control of own airspace"). Instead, base peace on a bilateral/mutual non-aggression WARRANTY. If either state initiates aggression.....agreement warrants that aggressor's loss of land in subsequent war will be permanent.....and such land will be vacated by defeated. If aggressor wins, nations that are guarantors of the pact (US, Russia, Germany, etc) pledge to immediately mobilize and reestablish the prewar situation.
dj ,   usa   (06.16.09)
18. U.S Jews support real peace not Bibi'
Yossi ,   Israel   (06.16.09)
19. My wife and I, former members of Habonim-Dror, feel strongly
that Netanyahu's speech was exactly what needed to be said. The conflict, it should be obvious by now, is not territorial and has nothing to do with settlements. Instead, the conflict is about Israel's right to exist and to do so as the nation-state of our people, the Jewish people.
Mark and Sandy Rubin ,   Washington, DC, U.S.   (06.16.09)
20. American jews r shelfish, who doesn't
realy care about Israel, they chose what best for themselves basicaly sold their relatives in Israel to god's mercy.
ghostq   (06.16.09)
21. survey: Israeli Pro-America lobby should support Obama
fair is fair. You're America's ally, right?
arik ,   usa   (06.16.09)
22. Sure! What Do We Need To Do?
I hope you all realize we US Jews are up against a brick wall. Obama seems to be more interested in appeasing the Islamic world than helping Israel defend itself. While the Majority of US Jews voted for Obama, some of us, namely me and my husband, voted for someone else. Second, the US Jews voted for Obama mainly to appease US liberals...like it would have done any good, right? Seriously, if we US Jews voted as a bloc and for any candidate or not at all, Obama would have won anyway. We're less than 2% of the US population, I hope you know. ezra from Canada, yes we do care about Israel. It's just that when it comes to clout, we only have so much to throw around. And bad-mouthing us won't help either. My husband is from Canada. He and I have both experienced anti-Semitism in Canada. How'd you like to be walking to the front entrance to a synagogue and a carload of Canadian adults hurl a beer bottle at you, almost hitting your 4-year-old child? Tell me, ezra, how cordial have you Canadians been toward Canadian Jews? Or would you prefer not to talk about it?
Heather Czerniak ,   Milwaukee, USA   (06.16.09)
23. US Jews Have Done Enough Damage
They helped to elect / voted for Obama,the Muslim marxist anti-semite terrorist supporter.Plus U.S Jews did not lift a finger to help save jews of europe during the Holocaust.American jews are traitors and should shut the hell up and repent for the next thousand years.
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (06.16.09)
24. re. don't tell us what to do
Let's see, Oslo accrods: Israel gives the Palestinians control of land in the West Bank, to show the world they can run their country with millions of dollars poured into the West Bank from Europe and North America for infrastructure.....but....the only infrastructure they did was build underground weapons factories. Barak offers them their own country, Arafat says no thanks, and they start the intifada. Israel gives them Gaza....they take over the Jewish towns and farms....and use them to fire rockets at Sderot. Israel gives, but they're in worse shape after giving. It's time that the Palestinians gave too. Like recognizing Israels right to exist. Like teaching their children in schools not to hate Jews. Like stop trying to kill Jews. And if you Americans can't understand this....there is no hope for Israel, and Diaspora Jewry.
Howard ,   Toronto, Canada   (06.16.09)
25. ENOUGH, PEOPLE!!!!
What the hell do you want us Jews in the US to do?! We're already under fire over here, literally if you've read the headlines! We're only 2% of the US population, even fewer up in Canada! Liberals and their anointed king Obama stabbed us in the back. November's election is said and done! The 30% of us Jewish voters who voted for someone else gave it our best shot, OK?! Look, YOU try coming over here and see if you have any more leverage! It's not easy trying to persuade your fellow Americans that Israel has every right to defend itself while so many of them are turning on the Jewish population. Try getting through a day's work hoping your child's school doesn't call because some punk punched your daughter in the face (true story) because he heard his parents say that they should finish what Hitler started! Try opening your mail and hoping that powder in the bottom of the envelope is just some harmless stuff instead of...use your imagination! DAMMIT, WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST TRY TO STATE YOUR CASE FOR ISRAEL WITHOUT THE FEAR OF PROVOKING EVEN MORE HOSTILITY!! I DARE ANY ONE OF YOU TO COME OVER HERE AND SEE HOW LUCKY YOU GET!! I'M THROUGH WITH ALL OF YOU!! GET A GRIP OR GET A #*&@ LIFE!!!!
Heather Czerniak ,   Milwaukee, USA   (06.16.09)
26. #25-AMERICANS are turning on the jewish population,i wonder
why?!?! jews not just voted for obama and we both know that!!!! you jews dont understand one thing, that without israel you will be slaughtered in the streets. your host nations will not think twice, as proven so many times. as for americans turning on you, they have all the right this time and i as a fellow jew as done the same.
avraham ,   netivot israel   (06.16.09)
27. Laurence from Safed
Are you kidding me? Israel would be nothing today without the US. Your ignorance is only trumped by your audacity. You would be well advised to think about your words ahead of posting them.
Yaron ,   USA   (06.16.09)
28. #27 Thanks For The Compliment
"you would be well advised to think about your words ahead of posting them" But I do think about my words..for a maximum of two seconds before I post them.U.S has contributed beyond all belief to Israel but ,if all hell breaks loose,G-d forbid,it will be folk this end who will be in the firing line.American Jews sending a few bucks does not a hero maketh...
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (06.16.09)
29. #27 Before Calling Me Ignorant
My name is spelled "Lawrence with a "W" NOT Laurence.
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (06.16.09)
30. Lawrence with a 'W'
What exactly is your point....do you want American Jews to come fight with you? American Jewry is often accused of having dual loyalties but to hear a fellow Israeli Jew disparage all of us is just not right. You would again be well advised to think more thoroughly before you post as without the support of the US, Israel will be left to the mercy of our savage cousins in the ME. Sorry for mis-spelling your name....Freudian error I suppose.
Yaron ,   USA   (06.17.09)
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