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Muslim congressman: Palestinians can’t live under current conditions
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Published: 19.06.09, 09:46
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1. Good to read such balanced views!
redbourn ,   tel aviv   (06.19.09)
It would be good if more people saw the conflict in the same way. Mike
2. This congressman an moral equivalency
Rod ,   Fargo U,S.A.   (06.19.09)
This Congressman shows his ignorance straight off.He compares Shalit to the Arabs Israel holds.The Arabs get visits by the Red Cross ,visits by their families monthly if not more,telephone calls to their families.This is typical of Ellison that holding Shalit not knowing if he's alive or dead no visits by the Red Cross no phone calls to his family this for over 3 yrs.He compares to prisoners Israel holds.
3. Conditions of their own making
dmgold ,   Pardes Channa Israel   (06.19.09)
Ellison perpetuates the Arab Muslim VICTIMHOOD train which never stops. Ellison first of all applies the Obama Arab narrative to the conflict and then applies the lefts secret weapon MORAL EQUIVELENCE which equates Israels right to Defend itself to the HAMAS right to RESISTANCE. Ellison is no moderate nor a freind of the Jews he is no different from Obama nor any different from Abbas. Good old Y Net pushing the anti Israel narrative.
4. funny,
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (06.19.09)
5. listen
Markus   (06.19.09)
it wouldn't hurt to listen and think about it.... there are always two sides to a story. Just because he is called a 'muslim congressman' does not mean he is anti-Israel. 'Jewish congressmen' have the same reaction from the Arab side, but then we call it anti-semitism, right? But because they talk pro Israel they always must be right? And the other side always must be wrong- pretty narrow minded thinking.
6. Deception & stealth ....
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (06.19.09)
I wouldn't believe a word that this guy says. This is just more of the Obama-style BS - smooth rhetoric with lots of lofty ideals & empty talk of "fairness & balance'' crafted to give a false impression of objectivity. The truth is that Mr Ellison is a supporter of CAIR & other Islamic organizations with ties to terrorist or radical Islamic organizations.
7. Keith Ellison
Freejay333 ,   Israel   (06.19.09)
On comparing Sept. 11 events to the burning of the Reichstag building in Nazi Germany: "It's almost like the Reichstag fire, kind of reminds me of that. After the Reichstag was burned, they blamed the Communists for it and it put the leader of that country [Hitler] in a position where he could basically have authority to do whatever he wanted. The fact is that I'm not saying [Sept. 11] was a [U.S.] plan, or anything like that because, you know, that's how they put you in the nut-ball box -- dismiss you." * Meeting with atheists, July 08, 2007.
8. By the way ......
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (06.19.09)
Aside from receiving campaign contributions from CAIR , the radical Islamic organization pushing stealth Jihad in America & which has close ties to Hamas, I'm just curious why the interviewer did not ask Ellison how he reconciles his Islamic faith with support for the U. S. Constitution. It seems to me that EITHER you believe in the Qurán OR you believe in the U. S. Constitution - I don't think it possible to reconcile the two.
9. Ellisons supporters
freejay333 ,   Israel   (06.19.09)
It seems the office of Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn) is not too eager to respond to reports his Islamic Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca this past winter was paid for by a U.S. group tied to Muslim extremists whose institutional material has promoted terrorism.
10. Keith Ellison is dangerous!
freejay333 ,   Israel   (06.19.09)
Elison has admitted to have in the past a relationship with the Nation of Islam (NOI) ! Much of the money that was funneled into the coffers of Ellison’s campaign can be traced to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) organization that has ties to Hamas. In June of 1994, three leaders of the Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP), a group that was the brainchild of Hamas deputy Mousa Abu Marzook (Marzouk), incorporated CAIR. One of the leaders was CAIR’s Executive Director and, himself, a Hamas supporter, Nihad Awad. Awad personally gave thousands of dollars to Ellison’s campaign. In addition, CAIR sponsored numerous fundraisers for Ellison – including secret fundraisers held outside the candidate’s state – where the group raised tens of thousands of dollars for him. Keith Ellison spent 10 years of his life associating with the Nation of Islam.
11. The same anti-Israel line.
Steve   (06.19.09)
Ellison: "....the story of the Jewish people in Israel is the story of overcoming major obstacles, particularly around World War II and the Holocaust, and then coming to a homeland and having trouble there." Like Barack Hussein Obama, according to Keith Ellison the Jews' story began around World War II and the Holocaust; not 3500 years back in this land. Notice he says, "then coming back to a homeland..." Not to the Jews historic homeland but "a homeland." Whose homeland is it Mr. Ellison?
12. Palestinians prisoners communicate with their families,
vered ,   israel   (06.19.09)
unlike Gilad Shalit. The Red Cross visits the Palestinian prisoners, but no one has visited Gilad Shalit. This is a most important point. On the other hand, seeing the conflict from the point of view as two different peoples being promised the same area by the Brits and the French is a good starting point.
13. Rod, Fargo, U.S.A
F. Bobbe ,   Israel   (06.19.09)
very good reaction, Rod, hope the Redcros will succeed to vissit the the poor guy!!! Not only the Arab.prisseners have visits from there family, a good shower, good meals, they oslo can study in our prisons!!!
14. From the Hamas Charter
Avinoam ,   Tel Aviv   (06.19.09)
Article Thirteen: Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know." ... There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. ...
15. witness the islamification of USA...geert wilders was right
john ,   USA   (06.19.09)
16. Gilad Shalit
Wolfe ,   NYC   (06.19.09)
It wold be interesting to know how he knows Gilad Shalit is alive and if he could provide the proof. If he is fair and balanced I hope Israel does not have any enemies.
17. Quite frankly?
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (06.19.09)
" ......if you talk to all of the players in the game then it does make it easier to bring the game to a reasonable resolution' Hamass is not a "player" in this game nor is this man speaking.They are enemies bent on our destruction. Israel must stand firm in its ideals-all of them.Concessions to cynic,cunning enemies is just past.Enough of bs already!
18. ok dokey, then forget the 2 state and all history.
Observer   (06.19.09)
Israel will help Palastinean people with their education although its their responsibility for Palastinean exchange of recongizing Jewish State of Israel. The Arab refugees can be invited to America (just like they did for Jews) and in Europe (just like they did for Tamils). Maybe those Arabs can solve the economic crisis in Europe and USA. What do you think? Cant digest right ? Irritating too isnt it?
19. I apologize for the stupidity of this muslum congressman.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (06.19.09)
He was elected by the muslums that comprise a huge group of voters in his district. He says the "pals" can't live that way, well they can and they do and they chose it, they voted for hamass and they voted or fartah instead of asking for a real peace. He is just another arab like arab president o-bum-a who represents arabs not the whole of his district or the whole of America but his arab relatives and friends. arabs and muslums come first, everyone else in the world comes second.
20. Moral equivelance is wrong
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (06.19.09)
Sorry to say but when one side is attempting genocide all compassion ends. Just as every German deserved to be placed in a concentration camp after WW II, the Arabs are responsible for their attempt to deprive us of the single most important right the right to life itself. Until they can come to terms with that, they earn nothing but contempt.
21. muslim congressman
moron ,   galut   (06.19.09)
double talk--both sides have 'valid' land claims is very nice..only there is no land
22. Another Dreamer
Asher ( truth hurts) ,   Jerusalem   (06.19.09)
Another non realist.
23. He wants to talk to Hamas? Then let Russia talk to Al Qaeda
Jae ,   Lynn US   (06.19.09)
With all due respect Mr. Elison, by you're talking with terrorists who have the happy blood of our children on their hands, you are saying they are not terrorists. That our children don't count, that jews dont count. How else do you explain it? If al qaeda are terrorists so are hamas.
24. Several deceptive comments by Rep. Ellison
Dan ,   USA   (06.19.09)
1) There is no equivalency between Gilad Shalit who was abducted and held without regard to Geneva Conventions or other humanitarian concerns and criminals and terrorists captured by Israel and jailed after proper legal proceedings. He deliberately blurs the lines here. 2) Rep Ellison actively opposed Operation Cast Lead while it was ongoing. What he says now are mere words with no backing. Again there is no equivalency between unprovoked and unrestrained (except by Israeli military action) rocket fire from Gaza and the Israeli military action which finally put a stop to most of it. 3) Hamas is an extremist, racist organization dedicated to a combination of religion and fascism. PERIOD. End of discussion. The United States of America has no business negotiating with an organization like that except to obtained its own limited interests (such as release of prisoners, etc). Hamas has no business at the Peace table. 4) The House resolutions supporting Israel should not have been combined with any other resolution. Again there is no moral, ethical, military, or political equivalency between the terrorist actions by Hamas and the Palestinians and the reactions by Israel.
25. Media Line interview
judith nusbaum ,   Rishon, Israel   (06.19.09)
To compare N. Ireland and England with Israel and the Arab Palestinians is inaccurate. The purpose of the conflict in N.Ireland was not to wipe England off the map, .
26. It's not a 'game', Mr. Ellison, and shame on MINN. Jews..
SZB ,   No Longer MN   (06.19.09)
for financing, supporting , and putting this guy in office. Their knee-jerk support of anything Democratic is now enabling Hamas, Hizbollah, and leading to a One State Solution (meaning a No Israel Final Solution) Hamas isnt a country, isn't a 'welfare' entity, they are the bus bombers and Sbarro exploders of David Applebaum and daughter, HAVE U FORGOTTEN ALREADY?! And shame on the MN rabbis who preached for this guy from BethEl and Adath and Temple Israel... remember this when they gun down your children at Ramah.
27. Thomas Jefferson used the koran to fight islam
Yoni   (06.19.09)
He sent a navy to rid the Mediterranean of mujahadeen that the stupid Europeans had been paying bribes to. Its very funny how hussien obama and this traitorous congressman ignore Thomas Jefferson's diatribes written for all to view against islamic culture. The very koran they praise was used as a weapon against islam . READ HISTORY!!!!!
28. Israel has already made many good faith attemps...
Psalms83 ,   Selah   (06.19.09)
only to be slaped in the face with qassams,suicide bombers and calls for it removal from palistine... it is time for recipercation on the part of hamas,hezbelah....kind words and actions can be very healing
29. Ahh! A Muslim congressman!
Giora Me'ir ,   USA   (06.20.09)
Hide the women and children, Ma!
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