1. "Demilitarized " adsurdities
How does Netanyahu possibly think that one could have a "demilitarized " Palestinian State when they can't even stop arms supplies int Gaza ?
| DT , |
TA Israel |
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2. in other words Bibi demands the palis
to respect the international law that was legislated in the UN in 1947, to established a jewish state in the land of Israel. mmm arabs respecting law any law, mmm problem, they will breake it anyway. Ironic.
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3. LISTEN
The "Three Weeks" between the 17th of Tammuz and the Tisha B'Av have historically been days of misfortune and calamity for the Jewish people. During this time, both the First and Second Temples were destroyed, amongst other terrible tragedies.
These days are referred to as the period "within the straits" (bein hametzarim), in accordance with the verse: "all her oppressors have overtaken her within the straits" (Lamentations 1:3).
On Shabbat during the Three Weeks, the Haftorahs are taken from chapters in Isaiah and Jeremiah dealing with the Temple's destruction and the exile of the Jewish people.
During this time, various aspects of mourning are observed by the entire nation. We minimize joy and celebration. And, since the attribute of Divine judgement (βdinβ) is acutely felt, we avoid potentially dangerous or risky endeavors.
ASPECTS OF MOURNING DURING THE THREE WEEKS
No weddings are held. (However, engagement ceremonies are permitted.)
We do not listen to music.
We avoid all public celebrations -- especially those which involve singing, dancing and musical accompaniment.
We avoid pleasure trips or other unusually entertaining activities.
No haircuts or shaving. (Fingernails may be clipped up until the week in which Tisha B'Av falls.)
We do not say the blessing She-hechianu on new food or clothes, except on Shabbat.
THE NINE DAYS
The period commencing with Rosh Chodesh Av is called the "Nine Days." During this time, a stricter level of mourning is observed, in accordance with the Talmudic dictum (Ta'anit 26): "When the month of Av begins, we reduce our joy."
We avoid purchasing any items that bring great joy.
We suspend home improvements, or the planting of trees and flowers.
We avoid litigation with non-Jews, since fortune is inauspicious at this time.
We abstain from the consumption of meat (including poultry) and wine. These foods are symbolic of the Temple service, and are generally expressions of celebration and joy.
On Shabbat, meat and wine are permitted. This applies also to any other seuduat mitzvah -- for example, at a Brit Milah or at the completion of a tractate of Talmud.
Wine from Havdallah should be given to a child to drink.
We refrain from wearing newly laundered garments, or laundering any clothes.
If the "freshness" has been taken out of a garment prior to the Nine Days, it may be worn.
Fresh clothes may be worn for Shabbat.
The clothing of small children, which gets soiled frequently, may be laundered during the Nine Days.
Clothes may not be laundered even if done in preparation for after Tisha B'Av, or even if done by a non-Jew.
We do not bathe for pleasure.
It is permitted to bathe in order to remove dirt or perspiration, or for medical reasons. This may be done only in cool water.
Furthermore, the body should be washed in parts, rather than all at one time.
Bathing in warm water is permitted on Friday in honor of Shabbat
| BEN , |
Singapore |
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4. Good...If Israel demilitirizes as well.
A state is a stae.
The Palestinians will not be expected to be told what they can and can't do.
Demilitiraztion will have to accompanied by international guarantees Israel cannot at will make excursions or fly over the territory with drones or other armed conveyances.
| Peter Mochnacki , |
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5. to #4 hahahahahaha, so funny have you
see the size of the palis teritory, Israel is very small, the palis is much smaller, it won't be able to be indipendent since electricity and other civil servises Israel provides the palis. they can't manifature thos things without suppor from either Jordan or Israel. so either way they will always be depend on other country, and since 80% of Jordan population r palis, I suggest they will join them there and let jews live their own lives at the land of Israel.
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6. These ridiculous preconditions will lead to ONE state
... via Palestinian rejection of accepting a castrated statelet and subhuman status. Also right of return will never be forfeited by anyone.
| Nour , |
Palestine |
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7. This is great news!
I always wanted to build a pergola!
| Bernie , |
Raanana, Israel |
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8. Netanyahu wasn't specific about which two-states.
Hopefully, he meant Israel & Jordan.
| Terry , |
Eilat, Israel |
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9. Never underestimate...
Obama's ability to shove down Netanyahu's throat whats best for the region. Way to go Obama!
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10. Get rid of this....
impotent lying prime minister.
| Rabbi Amram , |
Israel |
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11. Right of return first and foremost...
Otherwise we will continue to be your worst nightmare.
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Bint Jbeil, Lebanon |
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12. to #11 the right of jews to retun is extreemly important
either palis want their own state or want to be in the jewish state and obay the jewish institute. you can have it both.
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13. 2-state solution won't happen
An agreement resulting in the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel will never happen, not because of territory, not because of security, not because of Jerusalem, and not because of economics. All those are important issues, but the one that will be the dealbreaker is the Palestinian 'refugees' and the right of return.
No Israeli leader can allow millions of Palestinians into Israel, because this would mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state. The Knesset would never allow it, and any leader who seriously wanted to allow the Palestinians to return to places their ancestors once lived in will not survive politically. The voters will get rid of any PM who allows this. Even Labor and Kadima wouldn't allow their leaders to implement such a plan.
Israel will never agree to a Palestinian right of return.
From the Palestinian point of view, no Palestinian leader can tell his people that he has negotiated away their right of return. The Palestinians know that a right of return is their best shot at destroying Israel. Any Palestinian leader who is willing to give up the right of return would not survive politically, and would likely be targeted by Hizbullah/Hamas, or the Iranians would somehow have him removed from office. Palestinians won't support an agreement unless they get right of return, and Israel will never sign an agreement giving the Palestinians a right of return. No Arab country will accept the Palestinian 'refugees' and even the Palestinians don't like the idea of a right of return to PA-controlled areas but not to Israel.
This is why an agreement is impossible.
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14. to #13 thank you, you right
the return won't be posible without creating new fenomena witch is jewish refugees. so again palis can't return to the places their ancestors conquer. not even bought.
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15. To #11
You would continue to be like that anyway. When is the next civil war in y country with the christians?
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Spain |
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16. TO #11: SOON ALL YOUR BROTHERS WILL BE COMING HOME TO YOU!
EITHER NICELY OR BY FORCE!
| NO ARABS IN ISRAEL , |
ALLOWED! |
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17. #15 Daniel
We are allies with the majority of Christians in Lebanon. It shows how ignorant you are. General Michel Aoun (an ally of Hezbollah) had his political party win in the last elections more seats in Parlainment than any other Christian in Lebanon by far.
| Hezbollah , |
Bint Jbeil, Lebanon |
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18. To # 15 it is with you and very soon
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19. # 3 Ben of Singapore
Your suggestive solution post is much interesting compared to this article.You are alluding.You must be a jew for sure. Thanks.
We can see where this two state solution is leading. I suppose the whole politics to another Tamuz tragedy.
Thanks :)
| Ofra , |
Hong Kong |
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20. balcony and pergola
In the same breath the PM makes a complete ideological turning, admitting for the first time 2-state solution, and essentially indicating to the world that Obama gave him a dressing down he talks about balconies and pergola's?
WTF?! And how many Israelis can afford to build a pergola in the first place??? How about some affordable housing for young secular couples in the center for a change instead of luxury towers that are inhabited only by August Zionists
These Israelis are crazy
| Smith , |
TA, Israel |
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21. #11
I know you guys like to think Hezbolla are our worse nightmare, I'd hate to break it to you but them and those like you are some of our favorite jokes, they are however Lebanan's worst nightmare but I have no sympathy for Lebanan, because they brought it upon themselves, bye bye, I'm going to the beach now. (last weekend I was up in the Golan swimming, it was real nice, maybe next time you bunch of horses asses attack we will take more northan territory from you)
| Brian , |
Tel Aviv, Israel |
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22. Tiny Israel is too small for two states!
Especially when the Arab group takes joy in massacring Jews. The Arabs own 99.9% of the Middle East. They have the space to place ALL the Arabs who claim to be Palestinian ββ without cramping. They have the money to settle the Palestinians, especially if the money now spent on the Arab "refugees" is added in. And why should there not be room in the Middle East with its 22 Arab states for a single Jewish State? In fact, when you think about it, the major question is: where should the Palestinian arabs be resettled? that and the need for Israel to stand firm and look out for its own interests for a change. More at : http://xrl.us/bi5c8
| Dave Ronen , |
Haifa |
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23. to #17 I see you settled in Lebanon quit nicley
so no need to talk about Israel than.
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24. #9 before you celebrate,
it's doubtful the pals will agree to any of the conditions laid out by Bibi, making it a perfect catch 22...
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25. Natanyaho is Obama junior
| Rick , |
New York |
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26. to #22 it the situation they created not Israel
the refugee campes were created by the british after the palis wanted Hitler as an ally, they r the sole responsible for the grim situation witch Ironically never took responsibility and blamed it on Israel. so stop feel sorry for them.
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27. Netanyahu utters '2 states'
did'nt mohammed him self say
' if Israel exist then i am not a prophet ' ?
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Jerusalem |
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28. #24 petra
Never thought you were this gullable petra. This is Netanyahu's way to break the news gently to idiots like yourself. No preconditions. Obey Obama or else!
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29. obama will destroy israel, if bibi lets him. do not believe
a word obama says regarding israel.
bibi, do not trade israel and its people away for the vague words of the muslim obama--who has no concern for the jewish people. look on obama as your enemy not your friend.
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30. #22 Reality is bitter...
But it's reality, nontheless.
The statement that "Arabs have 99.0% of the Middle East" is a racist and bigotted comment. It's like saying Latinos own 99.% of South America. Emotive, unfounded and subjective statements.
Arab is a common denominator and a culture, it's not a nationality. We share a common history, but that's not where the story ends. We are christians, jews, and Muslims. We interacted with many civilizations from North Africa to the Indian Ocean.
It just so happened that Palestinian Arabs are indigenous to Palestine as well, just as Arab peoples occupy Lebanon and grace its post-Pheonecian history, the Copts in Egypt, who consider themselves Arabs by the way, and the Omanis on the Indian Ocean cost who speak Arabic and consider themselves proud Arabs.
I suggest you just give it up man.
We're here to stay. Sleep on it.
| Nour , |
Palestine |
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