1. The Prefix "un"
It is by no chance that the prefix "un-" makes positive words like 'cooperative' or 'balanced' into negative words like uncooperative and unbalance among a whole host of similar words in English.
UN
By definition - negative.
So, maybe we should coin a new term - 'UnIsrael' referring to the UN's decisively negative attitude to Israel and its Jewish inhabitants.
The UN? - unsavory and unimportant.
| Reuven Brauner , |
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2. goldstone should be fired, wonder what will
happen if it was his family on the line, but his cretability is already tainted, meaning his own people will denounse him.
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3. private non-sponsored testimony,
especially when colored by racism, is null. So, have the Gazans' testimonies
stressed that they are Muslims and their Mosques were deliberately targeted?
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4. Why isn't goldstone excommunicated?
| jason white , |
afula,israel |
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5. a lot of respect for Goldstone in Israel
Yes!, there, they are not, at all, calling him self-hater Jew. Only Diaspora Jews have that kind of talk.
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6. common people
I guess it is up to the common people to get the points across, Shalit's father, the doctors.
The government does not care. They do not attend the hearing. They do not attend conferences.... they have 'more important' things to do-
common citizens and their misery and lives are just not glamorous- unless there is a photo-op....
in the end it is the ordinary people that will make a difference-
the world is full of organizations that are useless or biased, governments that are corrupt-
The Israeli government is no better, it does not co-operate with fact finding missions, but just complain afterwards.
I salute brave people like Ghilad's father and the doctors.
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7. to #6 the lack of cooperation is due to
the facts that the results of this probe r predetermined. the UN stance is biased all the way in favore of the Arab world.
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8. Lisa
The government os correct inrefraining from participation. The committe, just like the whole UN is totally biased. If one were to dig for facts the truth would be obvious. Just like when the world accused Israel of shooting thatlittle boy hiding with his father. No one is interested to read about it years later and find out the truth. Isrtael, as proven , did not kill that kid.
There are so many lies and brainwashing that people begfin to believe what they hear and it is hard to fight that. If you are out to get someone, you will.
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9. How utterly silly! What's racist about Shalit's father's
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10. #6 Lisa. Our government has particpated before .
There have been numerous UN commissions before, and each time Israel has officially participated it has been insulted, ignored and told to be quiet. Yes our government has better things to do than waste time on a body that is and probably always will be, anti Israel. Nor should we give it crediablity by attending, when the outcome is preset but the UN agenda. But I am pleased individuals are taking part, with government support. I hope Justice Goldstone can maintain at least part of his reputation for fairness and equity.
| Rebecca , |
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11. And your point is??? Discuss the facts - that's what matters
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12. #11 - I know: what an asshole....
calling himself "observer" as if that can hide his Israel hatred.
| Andy , |
ramat hasharon |
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13. A very few proven facts
1. 1,166 Palestinians were killed. Most of them (709) belonged to terrorist organizations - Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and others. 295 non-combatant civilians were killed , among them women and children.
The identity and degree of involvement of the remaining 162 Palestinians (all of them male) are unclear 9mostly males...)
2. 295 non-combatant civilians were killed, 89 were under the age of 16, and 49 were women .
The basic reason behind the civilian casualties was Hamas's (and the other terrorist organizations') strategic decision to establish their military networks and fight against the IDF from within densely-populated civilian areas, making extensive use of the population as human shields (for example shooting from within or around residential dwelling and public institutions- incl UN institutions; booby-trapping civilian structures - proof of this by actual videos taken of the booby traps. Even homes and the zoo were booby trapped.
Soldiers even tried to rescue an emaciated lion and could not due to these problems!!
3. . Six hundred and nine of the 709 armed Palestinians killed during the operation were Hamas terrorist operatives and operatives belonging to the security forces under orders from the Hamas de-facto administration. In many instances, security force operatives also serve in the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades , Hamas's military-terrorist wing. Ha
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14. inconsistencies
a team of bloggers from around the world has been researching the PCHR's (Palestinian Center for Human Rights) claims and have found serious inconsistencies with that organization's methodologies and classifications.
Preliminary results show that at least 267 of the people killed, that PCHR classifies as "civilians," were, in fact, militants.
Preliminary results show that at least 267 of the people killed, that PCHR classifies as "civilians," were, in fact, militants.Militants for them are those whom they had direct evidence were engaging in hostilities at the moment of their deaths.
It goes on and on with inconsistencies.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/palestinian-ngo-lies-about-civilian-casualties-gaza
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15. more horrible facts
Thank Stephane. Hereis more info:
children casualties listed included kids that weremilitants as listed by the Palestinan human rights organization!!!!
The PCHR list includes 7 militants who were under 18:
#580 ‘Ateya Rushdi Khalil Aal-Khuli (16)
#830 Ahmed Fawzi Hassan Lubbad (17)
#942 Ibrahim Mustafa Sa’id (17)
#1070 Mahmoud Ahmed Fares Juha (16)
#1094 Mohammed Nader Khalil Abu Sha’aban (17)
#1256 Tamer Reyad Ibrahim Faza'a (17)
#1397 Tamer ‘Umar Isma’il al-Louh (17)
another 6 children who were members of militant groups that "PCHR" named as civilian:
#405 Tareq Yaser Mohammed ‘Afana 16 years old Al Qassam Brigades member
#409 Mahmoud Majed Mahmoud Abu Nahla 16 years old "Shahid Fighter" in ICT list
#992 Mohammed Jaber Mohammed ‘Eleyan 16 years old member of PRC/Nasser Brigades
#1156 Hammam Mohammed Hassan al-Khudary 16 years old Islamic Jihad member
#1229 ‘Imad Maher Saleh Ferwana (Ammar Maher Farwana) 17 years old listed as "resister" on Al Mezan list
#1275 Samer Mohammed al-Abed Abu Aser, 17 years old, Islamic Jihad member
and :
Palestinian Ministry of Health and Al-Mezan could possibly be because the Gazan organizations counted people who died naturally as being "martyred" by the IDF.
While we have no way to verify that claim, the Palestinian Ministry of Health has a list of all "martyrs" who died, they say, as a result of the "siege" of Gaza (typically cancer and heart disease patients, presumably because of a lack of medical care and the ability to travel to Israel for treatment.). Their monthly totals of such deaths before and after Cast Lead look like this:
November - 10
December - 14
January - 3
February - 13
March - 23
None of the December deaths occurred during Cast Lead.
Knowing its clear biases, the most reasonable conclusion is that the PCHR was not nearly as interested in the truth as it was in demonizing the IDF. The report itself cannot be considered reliable.
So this is why the UN committee, who talks with Palistinians - only in the presence of a Hamas chaffeur cannot be trusted AT ALL.
The world loves lies, what can ya do?
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16. do you still believe that that proves charge of antisemitism
What was my crime? That I’m a Jew living in Ashkelon?
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17. #16 - Hamas seems to think so
It's written in their charter as such.
| William , |
Israel |
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18. #17
didn't it say in the Old Testament that God told the Jews to kill everybody there and take the land for themselves? Is this how anybody should go about creating a historic homeland? and if that IS the right way to do it, what possible argument could you have against Hamas? Who in any case are asking for their land back!
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