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Jerusalem haredi riots spread to Beit Shemesh
Efrat Weiss
Published: 15.07.09, 23:49
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31. #13 - Keeping Mom Away ...
Christy ,   Boston, US   (07.16.09)
.. makes perfect sense if they had captured her on camera removing her son's feeding tube and also adding unknown substances into the feed. It also makes perfect sense that the husband would not know anything about this. I'm sure he is in shock. He needs to consult a lawyer and outside medical experts to review what care his son was given and to review the videos they have of his wife tampering -or not- with the son's treatment. This matter belongs in a court of law now. Rioting on the streets won't help anything. I believe had this happened in the US there would be similar police intervention to remove the mother from the son. It doesn't seem strange that at this stage she is being held by law enforcement. Treatment can't start for any condition the mother may have until a review is made by those qualified to make a diagnosis, or not, of Münchhausen's. Personally, I think the police were just trying to protect this woman and her other children. The woman needs compassion and sympathy. Her son needs to get better. Go to court and have this sorted out.
32. Mother
Marilyn ,   USA   (07.16.09)
With Munchausens, sometimes the women do things such as injecting fecal matter into the kids veins and also having unnecessary surguries done, etc. It can get really bad to where the children die. I've read that the profile is perhaps a troubled marriage, a medical backround, and as a seemingly devoted mother. Also there can be deteriation after visits by the mother, and when the mother is gone for awhile the child becomes healthy again.
33. Münchhausen Syndrome by Proxy - Refs.
Christy ,   Boston, US   (07.16.09)
Some internet sites with good information on this Syndrome: 1. Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_syndrome_by_proxy Mentions that symptoms include - A child who has one or more medical problems that do not respond to treatment or that follow an unusual course that is persistent, puzzling and unexplained. - Physical or laboratory findings that are highly unusual, discrepant with history, or physically or clinically impossible. - A highly attentive parent who is reluctant to leave their child’s side and who themselves seem to require constant attention. 2. WebMd Article http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/tc/munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy-topic-overview Has lots of information. The following extract is pertinent in view of her friends who claim she is a very attentive mother - How does the caregiver typically act? She usually appears devoted to her child. The respect, sympathy, and attention she gains from health professionals and others who are concerned about the child, including her spouse, make her feel important and in control of events. Her actions serve to maintain this sense of power and control. I suggest that people who are interested in the disorder look at the above sites. Good information is provided.
34. I thought they did not watch tv
(07.16.09)
but sure they copied the brave Iranian demonstrators with setting up barricades. The only big difference between the two is that the protest in Iran make sense!
35. !!Keep it up nutter!!!
adam ,   london   (07.16.09)
thanks for messing up Jerusalem and not keeping the peace... all over a prking lot, hehehe i start cracking up everytime I read it!! please continue! the world wants to see these extremists that Israel has tried hiding for so many years! :)
36. To #34
Mahmoud A. ,   Tehran, Iran   (07.16.09)
How dare you call the protesters in my country "brave", or say that their protests "make sense!" They are secular Zionist American agents of The Great Satan and will be crushed! See my post #19. Even now I am recruiting the pure, righteous Haredim to help me out here in Iran. After we finish off the demonstrators, we're coming back to Israel. Together the Haredim and I will turn Israel into a place where all God-fearing individuals will feel comfortable. Watch out infidel! -Mahmoud A.
37. #18
jv ,   LA, USA   (07.16.09)
I believe #13 is quoting from a source that purports to be the father. But, I want to commend your for stating that if this woman is guilty she belongs in prison. Most people in prison have psych problems. That does not mean they are not responsible for their actions. People are arguing that she should not be in the court system because she has a mental illness. One, that has yet to be proved. Two, sadists also have a mental illness but we don't give them a pass for their behavior. Whether you kill your kid by beating them to death because you are a sadist or kill your kid by starving/poisoning him to death by cause you have MbP, the result and culpability is the same.
38. Haredi riots
Adam Marek B. ,   Prague, Czech Rep.   (09.02.09)
I am really surprised at the lack of any reaction from so called normal Israelis. They pay to support these people who don't work and reach their hand to grap the dole. Do you really have to maintain these gangs of pseudo-religious freaks? Anyway, it is good to live in the Czech Republic and be a conservative man. If I ever had any intention of making any aliya, now, I have lost it, and indeed have become aware that living in the Czech Republic or another EU country is the best thing I may do.
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