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US: Construction in east Jerusalem will hurt peace process    Yitzhak Benhorin
31. No!!! It is Obama's stand, influenced by Rev. Wright, that
hurts the prospects for peace in our region.
Deb Simon ,   Raanana, Israel   (07.21.09)
32. Re: # 25 Chocko on the so called American aid to Israel
B"H I don't know if your 3 billion figure is correct or not but I do know that ALL aid, though expressed in dollars, in effect is supplied as US made military equipment thus providing you guys jobs and R&D in the US. The US vetoes huge Israeli military contracts with other countries like India and Turkey on a regular basis. Not only. Israel supplies America with intel worth billions. American aid is only about one point something percent of the Israeli gross national product, none of it is civilian, so even if we had to go without it, it wouldn’t make that much difference. So, the final economic balance sheet you are referring to favors America, not Israel. It's not all economics however. There is strategy too and Israel served America well in this respect. If President Hussein Obama and you Chocko want to cut those ties now and rely on your good friends the Saudis, on Syria, on Lebanon and on Iraq, fine, good for you and would be VERY good for Israel too. Without your State Department's restrictions sell-outs of Israel, finally we would be free to win our wars against our enemies and start a new chapter.
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim,   (07.21.09)
33. dire warning time is running out
See the Book End Game. Neo-Con christo-hegmons are deeply rooted in elected, (appointed-bureaucratic positions) they are not even remotely inclined to surrender their ambitions and goals to establish what they perceive as a world imbibed with their chrisi-islami suppersessionist values. In short the neo-fascism espoused by bush-cheney cult is in stride. The information op has evolved into another phase with tangible military planning both Israel and Iran are about to be subdued under the auspice of international order and peace. I'm not saying Yershalayim is negotiable what I am saying is the martial apparatus is Israel behind, out-of-touch and borderline incompetent - Singling out Israel as your sole nemesis feeds into the overarching goals of the information op (it contributes to the facade of Israel being a racist, elitist, pariah) The authorities need to focus on portraying Israel as what it is a viable alternative to american theodemocracy, Israel is pluralist, equitable, secular, progressive and inclusive - although I don't agree with the zealotry of the "Israeli right" and their Sadducee-an camaraderie with the prosperous bibliolaters of the jesusite evangelicals but, I think even Likud and Israel Beiteinu and Shas and the rest will concur that tolerance and pluralism is an ethic and a truism founded in Torah. In closing remember the adage "only he that busies himself with Torah is truly free"
AY_Lamb ,   USA   (07.21.09)
34. America's help
Now that the USA has a puppet government in Iraq, a loyal dictator in Pakistan, loving King in Jordan, an old servant in Egypt, a conciliatory monarch in Saudi, a contracted PA in west bank, Israel is not looking so strategic to US interest in the region. We were used well, but now USA is trying a new game. Oh well, USA cannot seem to be able to finish anything they start, and now prevent us from that. The USA protected Hizbullah when we wanted to bring them down, protected the PLO when they were finished and now courting Syria and Iran. A weak, insecure and coward America is not a good thing for Israel. About the aid, well let Israel give US aid now that they need it the most. Forget peace, forget diplomacy and forget the appeasement tactics. Long live Israel, we will live against all odds and take everyone with us if we fall.
Stan ,   Tel Aviv   (07.21.09)
35. remind the communist Obama this is called private business
The peace process and since Obama came along it hasn't meant making peace its been about hurting Israel and making the muslims happy so if this will hurt that version of the peace process then keep building. I also know Obama hates capitalism and wants to nationalise everything he sees but these apartments are not like the settlements which must also increase. This AMERICAN INVESTOR bought a plot of land for the purpose of building apartments. The Israeli government has had no input in this project from the start all its doing now is backing the right of jews to build in Jerusalem.
zionist forever   (07.21.09)
36. Not legal Mr. Zionist
The so-called American investor is under investigation for tax fraud in the US for using profits from gaming activities for non-profit projects which truly are real-estate speculative activities, also the so called property he bought is confiscated private property which is now under the control of absentee land ownership department and they cannot sell. Also the municipality must approve the plan for these units but will still reject housing plans submitted by Arab residents in the same area since 1977. It is all illegal and immoral; we lost our moral campus and now act like criminals. What is the strategic importance of 20 units in Jerusalem or west bank? What are we trying to prove? We are a strong independent state, the envy of the world and now we are becoming petty thieves blinded by a false sense of entitlement. May god help us. We have become radicalized like our enemy, blinded by hate and religious fanaticism. Rioting in the streets over a parking lot, destroying property to vent frustration over the rule of the law, threatening an institution like Hadassah which issued a pure technical report on child abuse case, rape in IDF, mafia wars in our urban coast, soldiers selling weapons to enemy, human trafficking, drug abuse, etc We are our own existential threat; I hope sanity prevails quickly before we lose all our allies, sanity, and unity.
Lawyer ,   Israel   (07.21.09)
37. 34
US Israel relations have been gradually getting worse since the end of the cold war. Before it was like a slow thawing but in the last 6 months its like full scale melt down. During the cold war the US liked the idea of having strong ally in this Soviet dominated region. Today its arab oil that matters and trying to keep the price down. Obama also thinks if America becomes a friend of the muslim world at the expense of the traditional old enemy of the muslims world ( Israel ) then Osama Bin Laden and all his terrorist friends will get together and say hey guys the US isn't the great saten anymore they want to be our ally so how about we stop crashing planes into their office buildings. The US jews are not as pro Israel as they once were today they are more left wing humanitarists and think that tough love is what the US should be handing out by being more pro arab and pro peace process which involves Israel surrendering to the arabs. Without actually saying to the US we want to be your enemy from now on we need to look to our ALLIES like India not would be PUPPET MASTERS which the US has become. Stop taking the military aid and overnight we will suddenly find ourselves with alot more freedoms both political and more control over exports. Long term we will benefit because it gives the US so much power over us as one of the contitions for receieving it. Lets work with countries like India more open our arms to China and even Russia once we have independence the US can't tell us who we can have as friends. the real loosers then will be the US, they have nobody to subsidise their arms industry and Israel will be allowed to buy from other countries & build more of its own which as a condition of military aid Israel is forbidden from doing right now. We will also be making frieds with other growing powers. Suddenly the US will eventually find itself in a position where its muslim president is gone but the only people it has any form of relations with in the Middle East is muslims. Obama is risking everything to satisfy his ego.
zionist forever   (07.21.09)
38. #34 - Stan, is 100% right but even he may not know
how far along these guys got in campaign planning against Israel (as part of the wider M.E.) Look the only thing Obama is doing is delaying this already formulated endeavor. If McCain had got elected both Iran and Israel would be occupied already. For clarity the occupation of Isael by American forces wouldn't be the end of the world the thing that scares me is Israel has the technical capability and perhaps shortsightedness to inflict some casualties thus opening the door for regime change and destruction. Iran on the other hand their pathetic attempts to resist would be immediately squashed and like Iraq they would eventually be better off.
AY_Lamb ,   USA   (07.21.09)
39. Construction in East Jerusalem
The USA and the international community should wake up and realize that the Palestinians don't want peace. How many more concession will Israel have to make for peace? How many more times is Israel going to have to give land for no peace? Hello!!! Wake up and smell the coffee. The land of Israel belongs to G-d and He gave the land to the descendants of Jacob to reside in it. Who are we to refuse what G-d has given to us? Stay out of other nations' businesses. No one likes their neighbors to come into their home and tell them what to do, or how to do it. Let's split Washington D.C. into two capitals, or England into two capitals, or any other nation's capital. Would they like that? No, then stay out of Jerusalem, it is G-d's city. I am tired of the pressures put on Israel to give, and give, and give, and all Israel gets back is terrorism, kassam rockets, and death. It is about time the Palestinians and the other Arab Nations put their money where their mouths are. Make a Palestinian State by giving a piece of their own country. If they are really concerned with the Palestinian suffering, they will not mind sacrificing a little piece of their own country to end the suffering of the Palestinian people. Israel should go ahead and do whatever it has to do with its land. The land that was conquered at the time of various wars should stay in the hands of that nation. It should not be given back. They would not give back land in Israel if they had conquered it in a war situation.
Telma Anijar ,   Middleton, USA   (07.26.09)
40. spread Judaism
Build Jewish neighborhoods and apartments in all parts of the terrirories, and proselytise like they did during the Temple eras. It will improve all the neighborhoods.
alan ,   texas   (08.05.09)
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