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Study: Settlements depend heavily on government funding
Reuters
Published: 21.07.09, 22:35
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1. So what? New, low density always costs more.
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (07.21.09)
This is hardly news, but al' Reuters will make a big deal about it. Anyone who knows anything about urban/rural planning knows that new infrastructure always costs more than maintaining existing infrastructure, and that low density costs more per capita than high density. And who the he** is the "Israeli European Policy Network? It's a fair assumption they're getting funding from Europe, and one assumes they've got an agenda. This study proves nothing.
2. Is it the same Marco center
Nour ,   Happy in Arabia   (07.21.09)
as antisemitic, Jew hating spaniard Marco? What a joke...
3. How about "Israel relies on settlements for survival..."
(07.21.09)
1. Men of settlements make up an overwhelming number of combat soldiers. 2. The settlement allow the rest of the country to live in peace as they are the eyes and ears to the land. 3. Come to Eli...I will show you that you can see tel aviv and the rest of the coastline and on a very clear day, you can see the golan.
4. Only 4.1% of budget goes to settlements?
Jake   (07.21.09)
According to the BBC, almost 600,000 Israelis are "settlers" in East Jerusalem, West Bank, and Golan Heights. It seems like that number is closer to 10% of the total population, not 3.1%. Do the math.
5. Islamic Professor admits Holy Land is JEWISH!!
Walt ,   USA   (07.22.09)
Khaleel Mohammed, Assistant Professor at the Dept. of Religious Studies at San Diego State University, is the latest Moslem expert to say that the Quran - the holiest Moslem work - is actually Zionist. In an interview with Jamie Glazov of FrontPageMagazine.com three days ago (June 3, 2004), Mohammed quoted the Qur'an (5:20-21) as saying: "Moses said to his people: O my people! Remember the bounty of God upon you when He bestowed prophets upon you, and made you kings and gave you that which had not been given to anyone before you amongst the nations. O my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has written for you, and do not turn tail, otherwise you will be losers." Prof. Mohammed emphasized that the above phrase "God has written for you" is very significant: "In both Jewish and Islamic understandings of the term 'written,' there is the meaning of finality, decisiveness and immutability... So the simple fact is then, from a faith-based point of view: If God has 'written' Israel for the people of Moses, who can change this?" He also quoted two of Islam's most famous exegetes - Ibn Kathir and Muhammad al-Shawkani - as supporting this explanation. Imam Abdul Hadi Palazzi, secretary-general of the Italian Muslim Association, has long promoted that it is possible to be a Muslim scholar and leader and still support America, Israel and democracy. Citing pro-Jewish verses in the Quran, Sheikh Palazzi told a Jewish audience in Cleveland recently, "There are many good Muslims who value life on earth and the sanctity of their families. Israel should make every effort to support the growth of a pro-Israel movement among these Muslims... [but sadly, Muslims in Israel were emotionally and morally defeated by the Oslo Accords.] They felt that Israel was selling them out to Arafat. They need to be supported and encouraged to speak out in defense of Israel without fear of being assassinated by the PLO or Hamas... Oslo signaled to many of us that Israel was ready to accept peace at any price, and make incredible concessions to ruthless criminals." Arab-American Nonie Darwish has recently opened a website <"www.ArabsforIsrael.com">. The site states, inter alia, "We are Arabs and Moslems who believe we can support the State of Israel and the Jewish religion and still treasure our Arab and Islamic culture." Prof. Mohammed, in his interview with FrontPageMagazine, apportions at least partial blame for today's wars to the Muslims of the 7th century: "[W]hen the Muslims entered that land [the Holy Land] in the seventh century, they were well aware of its rightful owners [the Jews], and when they failed to act according to divine mandate (at least as perceived by followers of all Abrahamic faiths), they aided and abetted in a crime. And the present situation shows the fruits of that action - wherein innocent Palestinians and Israelis are being killed on a daily basis." "When the Muslims conquered Jerusalem," Prof. Mohammed continued, "it should have been left open for the rightful owners to return. It is possible that Jewish beliefs of the time only allowed such return under a Messiah - but that should not have influenced Muslim action... [The] Muslim occupation and building a mosque on the site of the Temple was something that was not sanctioned by The Quran. How honest is contemporary Islam with this? Given the situation in the Middle East, politicking, etc. stands in the way of honesty." http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/63552
6. Click on tha photo and you'll see a horrible obstacle to pea
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim,   (07.21.09)
7. very nice
sean ,   jersualem   (07.22.09)
thanks for the update. perhaps it will encourage more jewish people to move to these jewish holy areas.
8. the sound of an axe grinding...
tom ,   toronto, canada   (07.22.09)
this "Center of Israeli European Policy " has clearly mustered the facts to support its a priori conclusions. yes, the settlements in judea and samaria cost money, but if this is about money, then it begs the question of how much the gaza settlements cost, before and after the disengagement? thousands of qassams and operation cast lead itself, were the direct consequence of NOT having settlers in gaza. no "other municipalities" in israel bear the brunt of arab terrorism as much as the settlements over the green line. and the disengagement has demonstrated quite clearly that settlements do protect israel, and ultimately cost a lot less, in monetary terms and in human life,both jewish and arab, than if they didn't exist. why don't the eurabians go and "help" somebody else live in peace?
9. so stupid argument
ezra ,   canada   (07.22.09)
Young settlements anywhere need more public subsidies than older ones. That is the logic of national development.
10. Study
Dan ,   US   (07.22.09)
New developments require larger outlays to construct infrstructure- new roads, water, electricity etc. A younger population needs new schools. it is the same for new community developments in Negev, Galilee . No breakdowns given for each category of funding, amounts, for what purpose or when. Israel paid for re-building the Jewish Quarter in eastern Jerusalem. . So what . The US gave free land to settlers to make farms from Indian lands and areas taken from mexico
11. They begrudge us our kids schools
Ilan ,   Ariel   (07.22.09)
A younger population requires investments in schools. This is more revealing of the fact that these 'Left' organizations are motivated by a spirit of hatred of all things Jewish.
12. 4%=295,000/7,420,000
Xavier ,   Paris, France   (07.22.09)
Please do the math before. Proportions are simply just perfect whereas this is known that spending is(should be) higher on outlying areas not well connected like Judea and Samaria.
13. that depends...
Golan ,   SL   (07.22.09)
Is Jewish presence in east Jerusalem a settlement? Is Gush Etzion, Gilo, or Pisgat Zeev a settlement? Is Modein Elite a settlement? Is Ariel a settlement? It depends on how you define settlement. By the way Beitar Elite is haredi so of course it gets "more money" than say another village that does not have a yeshiva. So these numbers are misleading.
14. The settlers deserve every penny they receive!
Ron B. ,   Lod   (07.22.09)
What is the meaning of being a settler? Faith, moral clarity, long-term vision, defiance of odds (the few against the many), willingness to sacrifice short-term convenience on the altar of long term national security, and awareness that nations who do not adhere to their roots, and are not willing to make a sacrifice for Liberty, forsake their future and do not deserve Liberty. NO FREE LUNCH FOR SOVEREIGN PEOPLES, especially in violent and unpredictable neighborhoods. As to the legitimacy and the rights of the settlers : http://xrl.us/bj5ng
15. Kibbutzim are even more dependent on the Government
devorah ,   israel   (07.22.09)
So what is the point of the hate inciting article - Calling men, woman and children - Israeli Families who choose to put their lives on the front lines to defend what we all consider our home " Settlers" is a way of demonizing your fellow Israeli Citizen. Its about time we all grew up and stuck together as one country to defend what belongs to all of us.
16. Demonization
Yitzchak ,   Elazar   (07.22.09)
There is a slow subtle marketing campaign of demonizing settlements and settlers. Settlements are not an obstacle of peace, a lack of a partner is the real obstacle. Before we start uprooting good communities lets get the other side to do the minimum, let them recognize our right to exist. This report is a game with numbers. I am sure policing and social service costs in settlements are much lower than Tel Aviv. Crime rates and social problems are much lower in settlements. So what should we do, withdraw from Tel Aviv? In short another example of biased reporting and an article of hatred from ynet.
17. #2 Nour,
Moshe ,   Israel   (07.22.09)
Nour, I think you need some new reading glasses. It is Macro center dummy, not Marco center!
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