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Authors Oz, Grossman sign petition calling for external probe of Gaza op
Tal Rabinovsky
Published: 22.07.09, 00:31
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1. Who Cares
Marcel ,   Florida   (07.22.09)
THEY OMLY SEEK TO GAIN ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. They are NOBODY. Of course YNET would give them Publicity.
2. why would they be "afraid" to testify?
Danny   (07.22.09)
3. Absolutely there should be a Gaza Op investigation...
Mark E. Kleiman ,   Florida USA   (07.22.09)
Gaza Op 2005!!!
4. breaking silence
marcel   (07.22.09)
This is catch 22. When israeli soldiers get butchered by hezbollah ieds and putins antitank rockets, then israel should make more concessions and avoid war. When israel learns from winograd and employs special methods to fight asymetric war against dirty hamas fighters, oz and grossman complain that israel used dirty methods. israel can't win in these circumstances. Oz would have been against preemptive strike, counteratttack in 1972 and now gaza operation. they would prefer surrender to hamas than war. War is not preferrred but if israel wants to exist in the middle east, it must fight some wars. Peace with egypt came from wars, not from beilin peace campaigns and olmert surrender offers. These requests are a form of self flaggelations blaming israel for using military methods which these peaceniks are against at whatever cost. Self respect starts with defending oneself. Oz has personality problems with his parents. Olmert is a nut case who offered gross concessions while most of his family avoids idf combat and protests it at every turn. Following rules of war is one thing, but fighting terror is also just and special methods need to be employed or more idf soldiers will be chopped like in jenin to appease these oz and grossman arab apologists.
5. do u want to be shot at first and then retaliate?
David Cohen ,   china   (07.22.09)
Truth is: they are no more anti-Jewish than the Israeli leftists! They will bring about our destruction. we deserve it for allowing such elements to accuse the government of Israel. all of us Ashkenazim are blinded by this make believe "humanism". Be sfardi . Wake up and smell the coffee.
6. Phoney article! Rabbi Arik Asherman is a reform "Rabbi"
Daniel ,   Sydney Australia   (07.22.09)
Phoney article! Rabbi Arik Asherman is not a real Rabbi, he is a phoney charlatan, a reform "Rabbi", they are rapidly losing all their congregants because Jewish youth are sick of the phoney watered down artificial Judaism, they want the Real thing, that's why Chabad Houses around the globe are rapidly growing and gaining new members! Now, the reform movement is so desparate for salary money that they are actively picketing for the worst of our enemies, who murder indiscrimanatly woman and children and steal Jewish land, land that was bought from Yom Kippur "Kol Nidrei" appeals they demand to remain by the Arab squatters and robbers who have murdered and pillaged the Jewish communities of hundreds of years in 1929, and why are these reform "rabbi's" doing this? for the "blood money" they receive from the EU, Saudi's and the state department! In plain english they are called .......! Your article will not confuse us, the truth is coming out, the shame is all yours, the writer and the "Rabbi's"! "my name is Rabbi Arik Asherman. I'm the executive director of Rabbi's for Human Rights. I'm married to Rabbi Anot Ramon, who's the first Israeli woman ever to become a rabbi. It's an intermarriage of sorts, I'm a reform rabbi and she's a conservative rabbi."
7. ho hum
david ,   new york   (07.22.09)
this "rabbi" organization is nothing but a bunch of far left reform "rabbis" who love anyone who hates israel and the jewish people. anyway, they are a tiny irrelevent group
8. this is a loony tune "organization"
(07.22.09)
please look at who these "rabbis" are. http://www.rhr-na.org/about/staff one is a woman was a "rabbinic intern" at a gay and lesbian "synagogue" the other is a "rabbi" of a "progressive reconstructionist synagogue" that welcomes gays and non-jews what a joke!
9. Reality Check
Arie ,   BaGolan   (07.22.09)
1. BTS is a function of the islamobrit embassy in Tel Aviv 2. ALL the BTS "testimonies" are provided by unnamed unidentified anonymous responders who could just as easily be members of the 5th column who routinely demand our demise 3. ALL the "supporters" are members of the extreme left wing islamonazi appeasers that the electorate in Israel has finally thrown out 4. As for the "RHR" one should review their websites thoroughly to notice ONE ITEM" There is NO concern for the "human rights" of Jews. While attacking the "inhumanity of the IDF" in Gaza, NOT ONE WORD is mentioned of the 7500 rockets fired at our civilians. NOT ONE WORD of the hundreds murdered by islamonazis in homicide attacks. Rabbis for "Human Rights?" As long as the "humans" are not Jewish!
10. The law of war.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (07.22.09)
It should be clear and beyond doubt : although the IDF is the most moral army in the world, our main concerne should be, first of all, to keep our children alive. Any other consideration is of minor importance. As to the Arabs they don’t want peace as explained at : http://xrl.us/be3agy
11. I agree with the order
Golan ,   SL   (07.22.09)
I would tell my soldiers to shoot first too. Leaflets were dropped, warnings were sent. It was a war zone. My soldier's lives are more important that willing human shields which btw are legitimate military targets.
12. gaza is OLD, STALE non-news, move on.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (07.22.09)
13. "Rabbis" for human rights? Where were you when our children
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.22.09)
were blown up to pieces while on buses in Jerusalem? Did you ask for investigation? What did you do for eight consecutive years during which Jewish schools, Jewish hospitals, Jewish houses of worship were being targeted by the launchers of the mortars and Qassam rockets fired from Gaza? Do you really care about Jews, "Rabbis"? The very first of all human rights is the right to live and to protect one's life. This applies to Jews, just as it applies to all our human beings. Do you "Rabbis" care about the life of Jews, or is it only about the life of others that concern you?
14. Where were you
Ilana   (07.22.09)
when rockets fell on our houses, nursery schools and schools? Why is my right to security ignored? Why do I have to lie over my children to protect their bodies when rockets are sent into civilian areas!! What would have happened if Israel did nothing? Hypocrites-you disgust me.
15. THEY ARE NOT RABBIS AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS
(07.22.09)
THOSE SO CALLED RABBIS ARE TRUE ARAB TERROR SUPPORTERS
16. who r they? oh Authors that invent
ghostq   (07.22.09)
stories and live in make believe world, more talk do nothing. lets probe teir militery history I am sure you will find something, stupid they exploit politics for their own famehood cause their books doesn't sell much one again politicise entertainment is one sort step from totalitarian regim including left wing radicals.
17. "Rabbis Who Endorse Palestinian War Crimes" is more like it
JPS ,   Efrat   (07.22.09)
Nothing like modern, crunchy-granola, new-age, touchy-feely politically incorrect rabbis to beat their breasts and yell "ashamnu ashamnu" (we have sinned we have sinned for you non-Hebrew speakers). Funny how you don't see any leftist organizations that as their main focus demand that Palestinians stop their war crimes, human rights violations, and crimes against humanity. Yes, the sins of the Pals are well documented, even by Amnesty and Human Rights Watch. Yet leftists groups simply ignore the facts, because they are not popular nor acceptable in crunchy-granola circles. I mean, really, you'd have to toss that souvenir checkered keffiya in the trash can! Notice as well that the petition is signed by Meretz leaders - and Meretz is soon to be consigned to the ashcan of political movements that committed suicide by adopting narrow-focused policies that the electorate recognized as anti-society.
18. Shoot first......
Philip ,   Afula,Israel   (07.22.09)
Its so simple ,and just like in the movies,shoot first and to kill.Thats how it is in these situations,anybody thinking otherwise is naeive or without experience. in military situations.I was taught this lesson over 40 years ago in the Israeli army and till today agree with its wisdom.
19. "Rabbi" Ari Asherman, a reform rabbi. You give reform a bad
Avinoam ,   Jerusalem   (07.22.09)
name in defending the "rights" of all but Jews. Shame on you, "rabbi".
20. 5
Rosie ,   Israel   (07.22.09)
Great!!! Agree with every word
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