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Ashdod beach may be restricted to haredim     Ofer Petersburg
1. Marvellous idea. now spurt your venom reidihaters
On your marks get set, go forth and come in fifth for all we the average decent crowd care. Did I hear tolerance? lol
non 'reidi   (08.04.09)
2. Separate beaches
Israel is blessed with mile after mile of beaches. The vast majority of the coastline has no seperation on its beaches. If this venture is economically sound for Ashdod, and sounds like it will generate a lot money for local people, then asking secular bathers to move 100yds further down the coast does not sound like headline-making news.
Shalom   (08.04.09)
3. Send naked guy there.. .I'm volunteering
Alex   (08.04.09)
4. If the beaches are private property then fine
If not then freedom of movement applies. This is fundamental. You cannot have investors dictate changes to our laws.
Avinoam ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (08.04.09)
5. and who will use the resort the other 50 weeks of the year?
While this resort will be completely overbooked during 'bein hazmanim' and the chagim periods, who will it use it the rest of the year? Haredim in the kollel framework all take vacation at the same time.
Ruth   (08.04.09)
6. This should be achieved through mutual understanding
If the haredim showed more respect for the secular lifestyle they could reasonably expect a similar courtesy. Seeking a legal restriction is strong-arm politics and indicative of the aloof mentality. If the seculars have any sense at all they will protest this.
Avinoam ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (08.04.09)
7. PUBLIC LAND NOT PRIVATE HAREDI LAND!
Incredible! I am often in Ashdod as I have many family and friends there. They would be outraged at this idea. They often love walking from Ashdod to their family in Asheklon all across the coastline. Now, because Haredim are unwilling to look at others, we are to have to go round? Out of the question! I don't care if it's over 50m, the principle is that the beach is an open area. As I understood, it is illegal to seal off an area for a private matter such as this? Incredible. It is their problem that they cannot look at women wearing swimsuit, it is their problem that many haredim choose to be disconnected from mainstream society, not others problems. I welcome leisure activities for all groups, but don't go sealing off chunks of Israeli beachfront for these things! A religious man, Lasri, gets elected as mayor, suddenly, within just months, the religious push for private areas for the religious. Amazing.
Gilad ,   London UK   (08.04.09)
8. How will this be enforced?
Who exactly gets to decide who is hareidi? There's no legal definition as far as I know.
Yoni R. ,   Modiin, Israel   (08.04.09)
9. Charedi Power is Corruption.
they dwell as a lone virtual entity inside a distressed but real and good people.
avi   (08.04.09)
10. Most of the coastlne does not have lifeguards
Adding a beach to the small percentage of coastline that has lifeguards would help on the whole. The only people who could oppose this would be someone who thinks that religious people have no rights to use public beaches.
Ilan ,   Ariel   (08.04.09)
11. #1 I wonder if you would be so tolerant if...
I wonder if you would be so tolerant if we were talking about an Arab-only resort.
Chaim   (08.04.09)
12. 11 They have loads of 'em, you man with blinkers
since, like blithering idiots, we gave them our Katif coastline, which is now their very own polluted urinal (and worse), is it not? My Gd, is this fella for real? Down the 'road' from Asdod by boat. I dare ya to visit lol. They, however, are all over our beaches, self hating genius Einstein.
to#12   (08.04.09)
13. I suggest
A fifty meter divide on the left side and then a beach for normal people and a fifty meter divide on the right side and then a nudist colony.
Sagi   (08.04.09)
14. Seperated beaches?
ITS TIME TO SEPERATE STATE & RELIGION LIKE ANY NORMAL DEMOCRACY......ISRAEL DEMOCRACY ALEKKKKKKKKKKK
MOI ,   TA   (08.04.09)
15. Bad precedent
They did this in California for many years. Finally, the courts ruled that the California coast belongs to every citizen. There had to be access to the beach and the beach open to everyone. Once you start restricting beaches, it doesn't stop.
riki ,   LF   (08.04.09)
16. Wow! I didn't know there were ANY Jews in Ashdod.
5th generation ,   Israel   (08.04.09)
17. #10 - that's BULLSHIT....
You can't cordon off sections of PUBLIC lands and say Haredi only. That is what private property is for.
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (08.04.09)
18. Separeted Beaches
separeted restaurents, separated districts, separted buses - what next. Israel a normal democracy - Metukanim? LC!
Sogijo ,   Vienna, Austria   (08.04.09)
19. In a democracy there are no restricted sites
Hey my Jewish people...remember the "no Jews or dogs allowed" signs of only a few years ago all over the western world as well... Reverse discrimination is when the heredumb restrict the rest of us...bigotry is what this is called...IT IS NOT DEMOCRACY! it's Tyranny of the (not so loved or respected by everyone) minority.
dav zee ,   atlanta   (08.04.09)
20. Haredi beach
It is inconceivable that a beach can be closed to people because of the demands of the lunatic fringe. Feh!
eli ,   israel   (08.04.09)
21. Haredi Beach
There is plenty of room beyond the Marina if they want an exclusive beach they ciould build it there. Taking over an existing beach is just showing muscle power and purposely thumbing there noses at the rest of the public.
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot, israel   (08.05.09)
22. Great idea
There are separate beaches in other places.
Stephanie ,   Israel   (08.05.09)
23. #4 Thanks for the intelligent comment
You are exactly right. If the beach is private property they can do as they like. If it is public then all the tax paying public has right to it.
Matthew   (08.05.09)
24. Money Talks!
I can't see it being economically sound for Ashdod if it only gets used for 2 weeks of the year! But if you have enough money you can get your way!
Elliot ,   Ashdod, Israel   (08.05.09)
25. There is ALREADY an Hardedi beach here
In Yud Aleph, is this an ADDITIONAL beach or are they thinking of screening off more of our beach? They have already improved the parking for the dozens of coaches and the access to the beach, so I guess we are to lose more of the secular beach
Rachel ,   Ashdod, Israel   (08.05.09)
26. more segragation!
once again the Haredim are using the funds they embezzle from the government to create segregated apartheid communities of oppression! Why do people not stand up to this incidiousness within our country!? Build a "kosher resort"?! Go join the army, get jobs, and pay taxes!!! Enough is enough!
nadav ,   tlv   (08.05.09)
27. How long will it take?
After watching the actions of the religious groups in Israel over the years, i wonder how long it will take before hundreds of men in black garb will suddenly appear in the area of the regular beaches rioting, throwing rocks, calling obscenities, and demanding that the rest of the people cover up.
FAL   (08.05.09)
28. come on! most of us are not haredim!!! It won't happen.
most of us are not haredim!!! Ashdods citizens won't let it happen. and the datiim already got one separate beach - it is enough
Evelina ,   Ashdod Israel   (08.05.09)
29. Bizarre ..
.. that some Jews hark back to the days of segregation with affection. A beach Ghetto for extremists in a modern Israel - good grief! Do these people have no sense of decency?
Paul ,   London England   (08.05.09)
30. Are you nuts?
What is the big deal? It's a relatively small section of beach, and the mens section will be open to ALL men, and the womens section will be open to ALL women! I know a lot of secular women who will LOVE the opportunity to relax in their bathing suits un-harrassed by the googly eyes of men. This country was founded as a respite for jews, not an amorphous secular mass, mostly indistinguishable for the other countries. Seperate beaches is a Jewish value for the Jewish state, and it is very important that we have more of these values or we'll lose what identity we have left!
Eli ,   Toronto Canada   (07.06.10)
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