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Aftonbladet editor slams Lieberman's 'vulgar propaganda'
Yael Levy
Published: 24.08.09, 15:44
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1. HELIN... YOUR NAZI STYLE ATTACKS ARE STILL NAZI STYLE
stude ham   (08.24.09)
regardless of how you lie about it. much as lieberman may be disliked his views on your crass atrocity are perfectly pointed. your output was pure tripe of the antisemitic variety. no amount of writing and equivocating on your part can ever erase the blotch of antisemitism from your inks.
2. Vulgar propagandist complaining of "vulgar propaganda"!
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (08.24.09)
This is not a first by any means. It is a well-known tactic of all the Islamo-Leftists: accuse and attack the victim, especaily if he is a Jew. But I agree with Jan on one point: he is NOT a Nazi - he is actually a VULGAR and RACIST LEFTIST! Now Jan, does this make you feel better? And yes, "I have many Jewish friends too" - we heard that one before! If you actually do have Jewish friends however, I can imagine that you socialize with the "self-hating" suicidal type, eh? I know a few here too. We also have our own garbage. Do you care if we throw you the latest Anti-Semitic Jews to justify your racism against us? Actually this is a very Eco-Friendly solution - we clean our country of human garbage, and you get your own Pet-Jews to parade and whitewash your obvious hatred And Swedes just LOVE Eco-Friendly (final) solutions.
3. Vulgar is the word to be applied to Sweden
Sharona ,   Jerusalem ISRAEL   (08.24.09)
This "newspaper" should only be used to line garbage cans and bird and hamster cages!
4. " I have many Jewish friends...."
Hook ,   Toronto, Canada   (08.24.09)
LOL I was willing to consider what the putz said, until I read that line.
5. Vulgar? The story he published set the standard for vulgar
Steve ,   Atlanta USA   (08.24.09)
Publishing anti-semitic blood libels and admitting he knew the story was untrue before he published it is the same behavior of the Nazis. At least the Nazis were forthright about their hatred for the Jews. This coward can't even admit he is an anti-semitie.
6. A question of right or wrong
steve ,   tel aviv   (08.24.09)
Because, as the Swedish editor says, "The government of Israel is becoming more and more isolated from the world in its views" does not make Israel's views wrong.
7. Typical Socialist behavior in Sweden.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (08.24.09)
First a false accusation against Israel. Now they Judge Israeli politicians, for their response. Both Accuser and Judge. Well - I read an article from an Israeli Rabbi who said - "Islam lives by the sword ", and that is corect. The Socialists they live by - " Accusations and Judgements ". Arn.
8. Mr. Helin whitewashed Hamas' war
Fredrik ,   Stockholm, Sweden   (08.24.09)
The editor, Jan Helin, is incompetent and a liar. In Swedish, he sounds like a child when he talks. In a seminar last April over the Swedish media's reporting on the Hamas war in Gaza, he admitted that, all along, he had thought that Hamas had targeted only "settlements" with its missiles, not Israel proper (!) This was after months of anti-Israel reporting in Aftonbladet about the Gaza war. He is completely unfit to make editorial decisions, and his decision to appoint communist Israel-hater and terrorism-supporter Mrs Linderborg as Culture editor, is another proof of that. In Aftonbladet, the "Culture" section serves as a platform for inderborg to spew hardcore stalinist hatred in the guise of "cultural opinion". Only two months ago, a Swedish Islamist antisemite, Khomeini-fan and Nazi-supporter (Mohamed Omar) was granted space in the Culture section to attack "Zionist control", and very little space was granted to refute his articles.
9. Sue him, and DON'T give accreditation
Eva Bengtsson ,   Malmö, Sweden   (08.24.09)
Ehud Barak, the defence minister, should sue Jan Helin and Aftonbladet for libel. This guy may be put in jail if found guilty. Also, do NOT grant press accreditation to writers from Aftonbladet. Other Swedish journalists should not be stripped from accreditation. However, it is normal that writers from a paper who's editor-in-chief believes it professional to print unsubstantiated blood-libels on a 2-pages full 4-color article, without even letting the Israeli side comment on the allegations, should not be considered a respectful publication. Aftonbladet is a propaganda rag with a pea-brained editor-in-chief and a Stalinist Israel-hating "Culture" editor.
10. Curious
Michael ,   Jerusalem   (08.24.09)
So basically he says that he will not accept responsibility for this lie but instead accuses Israel for daring to be insulted by this ridiculous allegations?
11. The Swedish Pander Bears
GZLives   (08.24.09)
"In 2006, when Chancellor of Justice Göran Lambertz discontinued his preliminary investigation regarding anti-Semitism at the great mosque in Stockholm. He wrote that "the lecture at hand contains statements that are strongly degrading to Jews, among other things, they are throughout called brothers of apes and pigs." Furthermore a curse is expressed over the Jews and "Jihad is called for, to kill the Jews, whereby suicide bombers – celebrated as martyrs – are the most effective weapon." Lambertz thought that the "recently mentioned statements in spite of their contents are not to be considered incitement against an ethnic group according to Swedish law." His conclusions were that the preliminary investigation should be discontinued because this incitement against Jews could be said to originate from the Middle East conflict." And then there was Malmo where the world watched your immigrant/leftist gangs push back Swedish police and a tennis match had an Israeli team, it became the subject of violent riots. And yet you allow the hate crimes to continue inside Mosques don't you? Your politicians pretend its about free speech but its really about their own fear of being accused of "Islamophobia" and losing all the votes of the Muslims and Leftists. Jews and anything that offends Muslims will be discarded to pander to this voter block. What the Jews are so often accused of is exactly what the Swedish Left and their Muslims are twice as guilty of. Gangs of Muslims rape and steal but if the press have all this freedom of speech, why won't they print the background of who the rapists are? Who the unemployed are? Who the muggers are? Why is that not allowed? Because its a hate crime or because it "offends" your Muslims?
12. This Swedish guy is really stupid
Doron ,   Israel   (08.24.09)
It's not only right-wingers who are upset about the article. Actually, the entire country is united in this issue and are speaking out against the Swedish government. I love how this anti-Semite becomes so defensive, forgetting that he was originally the attacker, just like your typical nazi and bully who starts to cry when the tables are turned. They show so little empathy for others, but demand so much respect and understanding. They are truly pathetic creatures. This guy is really stupid. He doesn't understand that the IDF is the pride of Israel, that the vast majority of us serve in the IDF at some point. So basically this idiot has hurt the feelings of all Israelis and he doesn't even know it, doesn't understand why. We are supposed to understand how Sweden works and their values, but do they understand us? We who live in Israel know that our army would never do what she's accused of by Aftonbladet. Our army punishes us for the smallest violations. I personally knocked out a Palestinian with a punch after he spitt me in the face and I had to do one week in jail. There were no legal consequences for the Palestinian for spitting at me. The Swedes who are fed anti-Israel propaganda on a daily basis don't know this. They learn at an early age to demonize our military, our nation and people. Swedes only have respect for the Jews as victims. With their indoctrinated socialist mentality from cradle to grave, they love the weak and are full of hatred and jealousy for the strong. They're stomachs turn inside out just at the thought of a Jew who is victorious on the battlefield. To them we are supposed to be the victims, as this is the Jew that the Euros are used to. Aftonbladet and these left extremists are full of hatred of the Jewish people. The evidence is that they have NEVER approved of a single Israeli military action. So in other words they are saying that Jews because they are Jews don't have a right to self-defense. That's not legitimate critic of Israel. That's anti-Semitism.
13. Swedish media: "Of course gov. can criticize articles"
Magnus Andersson ,   Stockholm, Sweden   (08.24.09)
Jan Helin of Aftonbladet is lying. The Editor-in-Chief of the biggest respectable morning news paper, Dagens Nyheter, said today that of course the government can criticize the contents of articles, using their right to free speech. The only thing they can't do is to tell what should and should not be published. Jan Helin is incompetent, and doesn't even know the Swedish constitution and its rules for free speech and free press, that he is supposed to uphold as an editor. This was a lie from Jan Helin and Aftonbladet all along, and he is trying to cover up his editorial incompetence and hatred of Israel. He should be sued, and the writers of Aftonbladet should not be granted press cards in Israel (although they should be let in to the country).
14. RE: "rumors about the truth "
Moishe ,   Golutsk   (08.24.09)
I also heard "rumors about the truth" that Jan Helin is suspected in raping his grandmother.
15. Well, then...
Shai ,   Jerusalem   (08.24.09)
Mr. Helin said: "I thought Israel was democratic. I have many Jewish friends and I see Jewish culture as very positive." Well then, let me tell you something Mr. Helin: First, Israel is a thriving democracy according to any acceptable test, whether you still think so or not; and, you will be surprised to learn that even in a democratic society some things are not done - the freedom of speech is subject to balancing with competing interests under which libel and slander are not acceptable. So, please! Don't patronize over us... Second, if you were a bit more sensitive you would refrain from any sentence which sounds like "some of my best friends are Jewish"... Third, you may keep your appreciation of what you vaguely call "the Jewish culture" to yourself; as such terminology only shows how little you really know about the Jewish CIVILIZATION and its endless expressions and manifestations.
16. Aftonbladet editor defends propaganda with more propaganda
David ,   Boston, USA   (08.24.09)
Its time to boycott that newspaper, any company that advertises in it and the Swedish government for totally preventing freedom of speech and defending freedom of racism. Eurabia never learns from its past. What are the rest of the Swedish people doing about this leftist propaganda and racism?
17. Swden
Rick S. ,   Fla.   (08.24.09)
Congratulations to Sweden. You are now at the forefront of spreading nazi type antisemitic propaganda. I will no longer buy any Swedish made products nor shop at IKEA. In Sweden, anti semitic propaganda is called: "Free press". Anything that criticises Islam is considered: Insensitive". It's time for Israel to recall it's ambassador.
18. aftonbladet ignorance
alexi   (08.24.09)
If the world was free and without violence, fine print anything you want. But with so many dead because of antiethnic views, one has to be careful. Jews have suffered enough and it usually starts with a false diatribe or antisemitic rant or writing. The writer says he has jewish friends and israel is so isolated. That is a classic response. Aftobladet has to check out its facts and get it right. His article appears ot be libelous and he, his paper, bildt and the swedish government should be sued for libel. Israel needs no lessons from you, obama or anyone else.
19. Jornalism
Simon ,   Canada   (08.24.09)
All you journalists are becoming a threat to the world. No one cares about your opinions what you think and what you stand for. Your job is simply to report the facts and let the reader draw his own conclusions and opinion. You can give your opinion to your wife leave the newspapers with facts not a bunch of junk from biased journalists.
20. #2 The Doc
Yonatan ,   Yerushalayim   (08.24.09)
Nazi = Nazional Socialist They campaigned on Socialist ideals for fixing the German economy, instituted work relief programs with government funding during the Depression and instituted the world's first Natonal Healthcare System. Rascist Leftists ARE Nazis!!!
21. #15 Shai
(08.24.09)
Israel is democratic in name only. Israel cannot accept the broad principles of democracy, until it becomes mature. Censorship, apartheid and racist actions, collective punishment, deprivation of liberty, imprisonment long-term without charge or trial are not components of a true democracy, Shai.
22. editor ????
Lisa   (08.24.09)
he calls Israel's reaction shameful? This guy has a screw loose- he published un researched, unfounded, un proven hearsay and imaginary stories as a journalist's article and he dares speak of shameful. This unprofessional conduct shames journalism- he is not racist- anti-semitic- a friend of Israel- he was naive? His is as dumb as a bag of hammers- get your head examined Jan Helin!
23. Two comments
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (08.24.09)
First, Sweden as a country and a nation is not to blame for this person. He is who he is. The Swedish government supports him because of its anti-Jew ideology, but even that does not reflect on all the Swedes. Second, Helin is not a fool or a Nazi, but a man working for his living. He is being very well-paid for spreading the blood libel and is laughing all the way to the bank. He does not care how much hatred he causes or that Sweden looks like a nation of fools as long as his bank account is well padded.
24. Israel vs the Dark Forces
Brod ,   USA   (08.24.09)
Israel must be united, resolute and strong in confronting and countering the dark forces-the world of AntiSemites and Islamist-Jihadists that is hellbent on the destruction of Israel through the media, propaganda, deception, manipulation, terrorism and wars.
25. Sweden is anti-semitic
CKIJ ,   stockholm   (08.24.09)
I am living in Sweden,not swedish, the whole of th media in sweden stinks of anti-Israel sentiments. They can´t never stoopped low enough to demonize the Israelis Jews. I was always made to believe Sweden was neutral in WW2, that is a LIE. It is now known the WW2 continued longer by the help the swedes gave to the nazis. The aftonbladet newspaper is not worth even to wipe your ar.se with.
26. IQ minus!
Karin ,   Sweden   (08.24.09)
This guy should stop talking as for every word he is saying he shows his stupidity. He has done it, he is responsible and he should be held accountable. The Israeli government, Respect to You All, is doing the right thing, and the Swedish government should condemn the article. It's a big shame for Sweden and will and should have consequences. Israel, don't give the accreditation to afton/nazi-bladets so called reporters. They only write crap about Israel all the time anyway, there is no such thing as objectivity or facts. Israel, you have a lot of supporters and we will be with you. Sweden has so much to learn from you, it is NOT the other way around.
27. Helin, I believe you weren't driven by anti-Semitism but
Journalist ,   Israel   (08.24.09)
imagine similar accusations were pointed at the Swedish people with no opportunity to react. Suggesting that the Israelis trade human beings' organs is a severe accusation and the editor's job is to make sure the story is balanced. I think you didn't do your job. You can write anything you want but the right to comment is a basic right when exercising the freedom of speech. I am not supportive of Lieberman's reactions but you guys might have helped to crush the clean image Sweden enjoyed of up until this incident. The Palestinians and the Israelis having hard time to find a way to live side by side anyway and you should know that in this war all sorts of tricks and propaganda are valid. so when you accuse someone of such horrible accusations be fair and demand evidences that support it and for crying out loud, ask for a response....
28. "Rightist populists"? Is that a new ecuse for ant-Semitism?
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (08.24.09)
The fact is the article, unsubstantiated and based on rumor, by your own admission, was aimed at furthering hatred against Israel and the Jewish people worldwide! That is blatant anti-Semitism and there is no excuse for it. "It may not prove anything factual, but the claims remain and this is why we published the story." These are your words and I am sure that when the Libel Suit that will be filed against the Aftonbladet , the court will find your accusations disgusting. As for the "vulgar propaganda" claim what was more vulgar than the slaughter of 6,000,000 Jews by the Nazis while neutral countries, like Sweden and Switzerland, did nothing. Yes, 8000 Jews were "accepted" by the Swedes at the request of Georg Ferdinand Duckwitz, and that was the whole contribution of the Swedish people when thousands more could have been saved. By closing their eyes and looking away the Swedish people contributed to the massacres by the Nazis and could even be called accessories to genocide. Yes, many say we bring up the Holocaust far too often. In fact it is not often enough as had Jews been more vocal in the 1930's and pressurized governments in Europe, there might never have been the slaughter of 6,000,000 our people!
29. Stop the lame excuses!
Ben ,   London, UK   (08.24.09)
The motivation behind the article could have been based on political or racial grounds (or both) but in the end the accusing content of the article was not appropriately verified (not to say that it was a massive anti-Semitic lie). Publishing news report of that magnitude without verifying its content is a professional mistake. Come out of the closet and say out loud the reason for publishing such rubbish so that everyone can move on.
30. mr. helin
(08.24.09)
i do know for a fact that swedish people are not louded or known for their intelligence. however, sir, reading your response here confirms that fact. in fact it gives more insult to injury regarding the swedish people's reputation for intelligence. look at your state sir. it is in dissaray, forever plagued by the violence of those elements you love and honor; your muslim community, that would like nothing more than to make you one of those palestinians you claim israel stole his organs. you people in sweden are truly myopic because when the muslim finally come at the gates of your government, what would then keep you heretics and infidels alive? would you have your own country like israel has to run to in light of future muslim slaughter? would we in the civilized world accept you into our midst considering the vile antisemitism you exhibit? you will soon wear a burkha and we would still be in our free and democratic country. let us talk then of your circumstances and blind hate.
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