1. Only 90,000! If you open up the West Bank, you will see
400,000 at least. This is how Friday prayers in Ramdan were 10 years... This says a lot about religious freedom!
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2. And Now Presenting...
And Now Presenting : Another stupid forum...Lets begin people
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3. judaism and jerusalem
Sheikh, jerusalem is jewish and you are the visitors, you came after. Since the jews returned, yoiu must now go to your holy places of mecca and medina. Even the koran says jerusalem is the land of the jews.
Start packing your bags and inform your brothers to leave to saudi arabia and jordan. Israelis will help you move.
Olmert gave you the impression that the land of israel belonged also to the arabs which it does not. Jordan and saudi arabia and syria are arab lands and you are entitled to them. Go take them. Theere is plenty of room in iraq and now arab iran for you. You can even go to kuwait, egypt,. sudan, algeria, morrocco and tunisia. there is plenty of room there. Go and praise be allah. Take olmert with you.He and his sons are a burden to the state where they don't do their duties, yet take pensions. We and israelis do not want olmert as citizens of israel.
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4. stupidity at its best
im sorry to disapoint those who think that God protects "ONLY' those who fast.,first its the dummest think i have ever herd in my entire life, and second i think God would be alot happier with those that love others like they love themselves.
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5. #3
Jews are not even mentioned in the Torah of Moses, only in the very late books of Esther and Ezra. Islam, or belief in One God, was established by Abraham/Ibrahim a millennium earlier, while Muhammad just returned to its roots and was the last and seal of all prophets who preceded him.
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6. forbidden
would soldiers manning the barriers been told to "refrain from having sex in public" whenever possible?
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7. to no3
know ur enemy...first rule of engagement
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8. correction
Jerusalem belongs to God's believers .
all prohites ( since Adam ) made it to Jerusalem ..called in the Quran (the blessed land ..8 times
the figs and olives land ...2 times ..
alaqsa Mosque ..1 time ..
no one claiming that the jews were not in Jerusalem 2000 years ago ..but Jerusalem was never mentioned in the Torat .
i blame it on the ministery of Education in Israel not to educate their kids in schools the importance of Jerusalem to Muslims ..(not only palestinians )
Like TUTU said today ..fences and barriers will never bring you peace ..
Jerusalem is the core of this conflict .
| another observer , |
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9. Preventive
The article does not state that the decision to restrict worshippers, based on age, was done for security reasons. Most terrorists and hot heads are youth. The older the worshipper, the more likely he is to be peaceful.
As for restricting Jewish soldiers from eating and drinking in the hot sun, so as not to offend Moslems who are currently fasting for Ramadan, that is peculiar to say the least. Having recently been in Israel, I can say it is at times dangerously hot, and soldiers need to stay hydrated to function better and stay healthy.
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10. #3 jerusalem isn't mentioned in the koran.
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11. #5 jews is english 4 yehudim, means sons of yehuda shimon
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12. #10
Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Torah of Moses even once, while there are thousands of Muslim stories about Jerusalem.
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13. Observing morons
"Jew" is a truncated form derived "Yahudaw", a son of Ya'kov.
Secondly, IDF respecting ramadance is the height of absurdity. How about Jews respect Arabs when they do the same? Oh, but that would involve not attacking on Yom Kippur, eh? That's the kind of respect you get from Arabs.
So you want Jews to respect your customs, while we cannot even pray on the Temple Mount?
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14. To you Observers:
When Jerusalem (Old City) was under the governance of Arab Moslems after the War of Independence, we Jews were prevented from visiting and praying at the Western Wall. Now that it is in our hands, we maintain your holy sites and allow you Moslems to pray there. We do have a stipulation, however: We need to prevent violence. Therefore, we do not allow younger Moslems to enter the holy sites. When we determine that we no longer have security concerns, we will loosen our requirements. Unlike mideastern Moslems, we respect all religions. People labelling themselves Observers just either do not understand the social conditions prevailing in our country or simply do not care as long as they can criticize us.
| Robert Haymond , |
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15. "age restrictions attempt to Judaize Jeruslem"
Really? Are 20 year olds more Muslims than 40 year olds? Not the last time I checked but 20 year olds are the target of violent, racist sermons and incitement to violence.
In all statistics, it was the younger crowd who caused problems, who followed their Imams and threw rocks on peaceful Jews praying at the Western Wall below. Blocking them is an attempt to keep the peace and coexistence which Arabs seem to hate.
Keep it up and you'll see more than age restrictions...you'll have total restrictions and border cops watching you pray.
| William , |
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16. #1 - Freedom for Israeli citizens only
When you speak of Israel's freedom of press, religion, and movement...keep in mind that Palestinians are not and never will be Israeli citizens.
Also 10 years ago there was no wall and freedom of movement for all people, until you Palis decided killing Jews was a better past-time than building an economy and infrastructure.
Remember the good times....they are distant and slipping away every second you support violence.
| William , |
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17. #5 - That's right, we are collectively known as People of IL
The term "Jew" came from the surrounding empires that kept trying to conquer and kill us....from the name Judea.
Our proper name is The People of Israel. Today, the two words mean the same. So what if Jew isn't mentioned in the Torah...it's clear who they are talking about except to people like you who spin-doctor.
Again, you Muslims try to steal what is not yours...land, wealth, prophets....hell, you claim everything that you never worked. If it wasn't for the accidental oil find, you'd still be screwing camels and eating olives in tents.
Abraham began the Monotheistic religion, him and his sons are Israelites and we were blessed by G-d...for better or worse.
Remember - Abraham...you're supposed "Muslim" prophet, threw Hagar and Ishmael out into the wilderness...so even he knew the score thousands of years ago.
| William , |
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18. #8 - You're making your own interpretation
Nice try but your claim that Jerusalem is mentioned in the Koran through these euphemisms only underscore the point that Muslims interpreted the Suras incorrectly.
"the figs and olive land" - that's the entire Middle East
"the blessed land" - in the time of Muhammed, that was Saudi Arabia, not Jerusalem. If Muhammed thought Jerusalem was more holy than Mecca, he would have taken that first.
"AlAqsa Mosque" - why not explain what this REALLY means. "AlAqsa Mosque" means "furthest away Mosque" not the specific mosque in Jerusalem which was built AFTER Muhammed wrote the Koran and supposedly ascended.
Scholarly Imams in many parts of the world have acknowledged that there is major doubt as to where Muhammed really "ascended" but it's silenced because this is a political issue, not a religious one. Just like the refugee issues - the Pals get special treatment AND no one wants to settle them even after 62 years.
There is a need to teach this in Israeli schools to educate how Muslims twist and skew facts in order to usurp property and holy sites in an attempt to eradicate the native population and beliefs. That's well-documented throughout the Middle East, N. Africa, Central Asia, and Turkey.
Jerusalem is NOT the core of this conflict. It's Arab supremacy and Jerusalem, which was ignored for centuries suddenly became the rallying cry when Jews gained sovereignty over it. Notice that Arabs ONLY want the Jerusalem that contains ALL of the holy places, including the Western Wall...to limit flow and building like the Jordanians did, and to eventually erase Jewish history from the city, as they've been trying to do through their destruction renovations of the Temple Mount.
| William , |
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19. #11Herodotes (500 BC), never heard of Jews, but Palestinians
A princedom called Israel came to existence in 800 BC, and it had no relation to the ‘Jews’ who appeared later. The native dwellers of Palestine were called “Palestinians” by Herodotes in 5th century BC, 2500 years before (modern) Israeli statehood; but Herodotes never heard of Jews, though he walked across the whole land. Jews appeared three hundred years later.
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20. Ashkenazis always stirring up troubles
why are ashkenazis always making troubles even in Ramadan prayer?My poor bros the Sefardi and Mizrachi has to put up with the rudeness and then the Arabis also.Ashkenazis need to be taken out of power Put someone like a Reb Ovadiah Yousaf in power
| THE GREAT KHAN , |
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21. #3
No you go to saudi arabia... Jews are semite after all on the other hand palestinians are people who always were on this land some of them changed faithes due to diffrent religious fluences but they all were rooted before YOU came from saudi arabia.
Have a nice day
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22. why not? Jews to return to Medina of Arabia
but in that case Saudis have to make the DNA test to the Khazarians by themselves because Saudis can endure a lot of negative tests.
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23. #2 Yehuda... Half-Time
Let's call this half-time and have Janet and Justin give us another "wardrobe malfunction" so that we can all have something to gossip about in the next few days of idiocy. Thanks for the only intelligent post of this article!
| Said , |
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24. #12 - Keep Reading
Quote:
"Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Torah of Moses even once, while there are thousands of Muslim stories about Jerusalem."
Keep reading, you'll find LOTS of references to Jerusalem throughout the Hebrew Scriptures (and Christian Scriptures as well). You'll see it recorded in these scriptures that The Lord God Almighty considers it a HIS gift to the Jews.
Speaking of stories .. history has recorded that Medina used to be inhabited by Jews. I suggest that any talk of giving Jerusalem to the Muslims should include talks about giving some of Medina back to the Jews.
Fair is fair.
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25. #12 And yet the koran was written 600 bc. when Jerusalem was
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