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The Islamization of anti-Semitism
Micha Odenheimer
Published: 11.09.09, 17:08
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1. Best article I've ever read on this site.
El Conde ,   New York   (09.11.09)
2. Oh really ?
Emes ,   Us   (09.11.09)
if anti-semitism introduced into Islam by West, why did Mohammed murder jews in Mecca & Medina; why does Koran state Jews are infidels who cannot hide behind trees but will be beheaded; Islam moved west rapidly conquering Christians but only in 19'th century supposedly did Islam begin hating Jews; why after defeat of Mecca did Moh'd change direction of prayers from Jerusalem to Mecca as jews refused to convert; why in 8th century did Arabs kick Jews out of Jerusalem; why pogroms in Muslim areas before 19'th century; why Jews have to move off sidewalk for Muslims; why Jews' words in court not acceptable, etc, etc
3. #1 I agree
British Sabra ,   London   (09.11.09)
I agree, one of the best articles I have read. Well done Rabbi Micha Odenheimer.
4. What will it take to repair the catastrophic damage of Oslo?
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.11.09)
Oslo has been accurately described as the greatest wound a nation has ever inflicted on itself. Before Oslo, Israel never suffered a homoicide bomber. Before Oslo, Israel suffered an average of about 12 terror casualties annually. After Oslo, terror casualties syrocketed into the tens of thousands. Oslo created the war which followed it closely. As this article notes, Oslo also hugely increased Arab and Moslem Jew hatred. Weakness invites hatred and Oslo showcased Israeli appeasement and weakness. What will it take to repair the catastrophic damage of Oslo? A complete reversal of Oslo policies. A complete end to Israeli appeasement, retreat and offering our land for a treaty. The determination to actually WIN wars rather than "contain" the enemy etc.
5. Excellent article, indeed
Sarah B ,   New York City, USA   (09.11.09)
And rather a sad foray into the dark side of the Christian and the Moslem soul.
6. I concur:
Robert Haymond ,   Ashdod, Israel   (09.11.09)
Congratulations to Rabbi Odenheimer for writing an informed article in an area known to few. I also appreciated his thoughtful analyses of the situation. It is frightening, however, recognizing how anti-semitism is the engine for headlong Islamic destruction much as it was for the Nazis.
7. Hang the Oslo mosrim
Rami   (09.12.09)
Peres and the rest of the traitors - hang them before they can do even more damage.
8. To Rabbi Micha Odenheimer
Mann ,   Australia   (09.12.09)
Hi Rabbi, Your article is of great timeing, Its about time someone explained the basis of this madness to us. I am sure it has been at the centre of everyones conciousness with out explanation, the trick for being jewish today I beleive is to not let anyone cannabalise us on any level especially the arab level. the molakites will never stop plotting there madness on us , so its up to us to use our rights as jews to make the right preperations against arab madness. It is not only the islamization of anti -semitism going on today, it is also the islamization of judaism itself on a complete arab level , islam to them being the legitamate voice in the world and judaism is drowned out , kind of like a reversal in status, I know that judaism can never be drowned out by any entity, as we have nothing to fear over, and psychologically will never be worried about such madness, but this is also a scam of theres, legitimizeing islam as the leader over our heritage, how bizare, but this is what they think, this is how they look at us , and this is how they delegitimize us , so my message to you, is to teach us, not to be intimidated by negative mind sets by the arabs and make it clear and fully understandable the feelings associated with arabs looking down on jews. This way when any israeli or secular jew is being attacked by arabs, atleast we will know what is going on in there mad minds, this will then work in our favour if we dont let them think they can step on us with 1billion muslims and just stamp us out. Its about time we made think about who they really are, and where they really come from the truth in the world should become a reality not a distortion.
9. Zionism Fuels Antisemitism
J. Abramoff   (09.12.09)
All Attempts To Absolve Zionism Of War Crimes And Ethnic Cleansing Will Fail Zionism is the problem Rabbi, stop ripping off the native people and murdering their children.
10. antisemitism
mohson   (09.12.09)
This is what yaalon says... concessions invite more violence and more anti jewish incitement and terror. Whereas when israel shows a strong hand as with egypt in 73, there is at least a respectful cold peace. Even hamas is quieter with no concession bibi and lieberman whereas they fired 8000 when the crooked wimp olmert was PM when he offered everything for nothing and kissed up to the US at every turn.Wlill this bring long term peace? No. But its better than gas chambers that oslo and olmert and livni were leading israel to.
11. Antisemitism started from the beginning of Islam
ben yaacov ,   herzliya   (09.12.09)
Jews were made at the Dhimmis from the start of Islam. This defined their status as inferior. Persecution of Jews well preceded the 19th century There were the large scale massacres in Morocco during the 9th century and in Egypt during the 12th century. Rambam was greatly distressed by the persecution of Jews in Yemen. From the outset of the Sunni/Shia schism, Sunni's say it was a Jewish plot to destroy Islam. The persecution of Jews in Iran during the 1rst Islamic Republic rivaled the worst of what was happening in Europe, characterized by strong anti-Jewish laws, frequent massacres, forced conversions... and the ever popular yearly Housa where Persians gathered Jews in a mud pit to throw garbage at them and humiliate them in public. Muslims and Arabs were already Antisemetic and needed no assistance from Europe. European Antisemetism just confirmed an ALREADY EXISTING PREJUDICE. This is the same recycled BS that Antisemitism in the Arab world is an aberration rather than the norm. In any and all events those days are gone because Sufi Islam was the dominant theology of the past. Now the Salafist movement is the dominant form of Islam and can never reconcile to a world view of equality between Muslim and Non Muslim, much less equality between Jews and Muslims. It is the assertion by Israel that Jews are equal and entitled to self determination that has so inflamed the Arab world. People believing this is just a border dispute have no knowledge or comprehension of the Arab world and how deep they resentment assertions of Jewish equality. A fundamental of their world view is Jews can not be equal until they embrace Islam.
12. Strange people are the Khazars!!!
Jetset   (09.12.09)
They claimed to be the inheritants of the ancient hebrews and took over Palestine, killed the original inhabitants, the Palestinians!! Now they claim the semite (Arabs) are anti-semite versus a people who are not even semite. the Khazars) Go to figure this out!! strange isn't it?
13. true, true, a certain amount of antisemitism
AY_Lamb ,   USA   (09.12.09)
is indicative of the Abrahamic super-session beliefs, it has to be, it is only logical. The inheritor cannot admit the testator is still alive. However the rapid, viscous, unrestrained and unbridled antisemitism, proffered now by mainstream Muslims was imparted to them by Xitians i.e. Michel Afaq, George Habash, George Antonius, Evelyn Barker etc. et al NSDAP influence over Grand Mufti of J'lem Muhammad Al Husayni. basically the xitian taught Muslims this; "hey don't let them Jews get ya down, consolidate and exterminate"
14. Logic Of the Nazi Party.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (09.12.09)
Quote :”.. Nazi Party … in 1937, explained that Arabs had been at least partly "Aryanized" through mixing with Armenians and Circassians.” Following the above mentioned logic of the Nazi Party, the Jews must also have been “at least partly Aryanized” (if not more Aryanized then the Arabs) by mixing with Europeans like Germans. IF the Nazi Party accepts that the Arabs are “partly Aryanized” -- then the Nazi Party should ALSO accept that the Jews are also “partly Aryanized”. IF they don’t, that will mean that there is something VERY wrong in the logic of the Nazi Party !!!
15. Anti-Semitism
Ron B. ,   Lod   (09.12.09)
Anti-Semitism, the hate of Jews, is a phenomenon on which much has been said and written. Anti-Semitism doesn’t even need Jews in order to prosper (It existed in Japan although there were no Jews living in Japan). Anti-Semitism is one of the ugliest defect in human kind and it provokes the appearance of the most primitive and bestial instinct in human nature. Nowadays, it is carried, supported and promoted by Islam. If one wants to fight anti-Semitism one has to oppose the sermons and incitements preached in the Mosques against Jews. We have to fight anti-Semitism as explained at : http://xrl.us/kw6hh
16. Blaming everyone else...
M.A. ,   Raleigh, NC   (09.12.09)
... for your problems. What a novel idea! So, after a couple of thousand years, how's that working out for you?
17. re: jetset and other idiots Khazars were never Jewish
ben yaacov ,   herzliya   (09.12.09)
Khazars were never Jewish and they never claimed to be. That is why Khazars who still exist to this day were always exempted from Anti Jewish laws from the time of the Czars thru the Nazi period, because they are not of Jewish ancestry. Modern genetics have proved definitively that Jews from Europe are of Lavantine origin. Closest genetic links are with with Sephardic and Mizrachi Jews along with other pre Islamic Canaanite populations like Samaritans, Ashush etc.
18. to #
archie ,   alabama, usa   (09.12.09)
you are on the money for this correction. Islam is anti-jewish from its inception; no if or but about. and if there is no jewish around to hate and murder,they turn around and do the same thing to christian,and if there is no christian around, they turn on the druze. Islam history is built on hate and murder of their fellow man. let us not duck our head in the sand; humanity and its civilization is always under constant threat of the murderous islamic cult. it is not religon its satanic cult that needs to be wiped out from the face of the earth.
19. 9,12,14 -- Snakes are comling out from under the rocks!
Scott ,   USA   (09.12.09)
20. Thank you for this article!!!!!!!!!!
Sarah ,   Bethesda, MD USA   (09.12.09)
21. Amazed To Hear.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (09.12.09)
Quote :”… already deeply rooted in much of the Arab world … that Jews were indeed taking over the world.” There are 250 million Arabs in the world. And there are only 15 million Jews in the world. I am amazed to hear of the fear of the Arabs. I think the Arabs should be fearful of the Chinese taking over the world -- they are with 1.3 billion (billion, not million). IF they would be afraid of the Chinese, I would say they have a valid point. Otherwise it reeks to RACISM to single out a the Jews as a group -- who, btw, consists of merely 15 million out of the total world population of 6.5 Billion.
22. Not Something Exceptional.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (09.12.09)
Ibrahim Quqa said :”… (Israel) to serve as their (i.e. Jews) graveyard …” Ibrahim Quqa has VERY little knowledge about God. He doesn’t know that America is the graveyard of the Americans, Russia is the graveyard of the Russians, China is the graveyard of the Chinese. In the past ten years about 25 million Americans died of old age -- that means that there are AT LEAST 25 million graveyards in America. Similarly, about 15 million Russians died of old age during the past ten years. Similarly, about 110 million Chinese died of old age in the past ten years. And just consider the amount of people who died of old age during the past 100 years -- the figures are staggering. To die is natural. To consider one’s country a graveyard is not something exceptional or far-fetched.
23. Arab League has NO authority.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (09.12.09)
Quote :”.. Arab League were claiming that "Jews had not suffered more than anyone else" during World War II.” If half the population of Jews in the world is killed on purpose -- one can safely say that they have suffered more than anyone else. If 125 million of the 250 million Arabs would be killed within three years on purpose -- only then will the Arab League understand what the Jews went through. UNTIL that time -- the Arab League has NO authority to speak about the Holocaust. Quote :” This depiction of Palestine is "invented tradition." That means that the Arabs are very good in inventing stories. The Western world invented so many nice products so that we can have a very comfortable life. And what do the Arabs invent ? They invent stories. To invent stories is a nice way of saying ‘they are telling lies’. So, the Arabs should understand that telling lies will NOT give them peace of mind. And without peace of mind one can NOT have a peaceful life. And peaceful life is what each one of the human beings of planet Earth has as his/her highest goal in life.
24. 16 So true. Israel/Jews flourish vs. most Islamists languish
5th generation ,   Israel   (09.12.09)
Islam has destroyed many a previously brilliant Arab culture, and the complete rejection of personal responsibility in favor of violent xenophobia is a disease for which we are all still seeking a cure. Try reading the Quran and compare the rhetoric to David Ben-Gurion rejecting Allied Force's post-WWII offer to destroy the Germans for Israel - so he could concentrate on a more constructive future - and you'll REALLY get the difference (if you're actually interested).
25. #12 according to legend of the khazars they took what they
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thought they could use out of jewdaism, what they wanted. if they were jews, which there is no archeological proof of, then they were AT BEST like helenistic jews during second temple, who took out of greek roman beliefs what they needed to convince themselves and others of their new traits, and as such they dissapeared after a few generations, by assimilation into other people. what kept the core of the REAL jewish people is orthodox way of religion, which the khazars were not capable of, as according to the legends jewdaism was a convenience religion for the khazar upper classes, if at all. REAL jews kept congregations in diasphora so that there will be people in each congregation who know how to pray according to the orthodox form. congregations who didn't have that person who really knows the orthodox way of religion have dispersed by assimilation. during ancient israel and the jewish kingdoms that followed, there were levites and cohens, people whose work was to know the scriptures and pray, they amounted to some 10% of the people of israel, that's why congregations counted at least 10 people in diasphora, that's why they were rabbis who studied long and hard for many years, and were the leaders of their community. the khazar kings were rulers not rabbis. it is rediculous even to compare king's lifestyle with that of a rabbi, or a jewish orthodox lifestyle with the lifestyle of the khazars, that were mainly warriors, who took over huge amounts of land. you must know very little about jewish lifestyle in diasphora, unlike every child in israel. moreover, the khazars made no attemp to keep the very basics of the old scriptures by returning to the land promised by g-d, they never tried to conquer the holly land, but they did expand far and wide into lands to the north, or into europe, according to the legends about them. typical of moslems to like the jewish parts of the legends, which bear no proof at all archeologically, just stirs their imaginations in vain.
26. #12 had jews been warriors i.e. khazars antisemitism wouldnt
develop in first pla   (09.12.09)
27. Islam
Yisraeli   (09.12.09)
When Islam is outlawed, banned and eventually eradicated then the world will be able to progress. Until that happens the sword of Islam will always be raised, we've had 1400 yrs of it so far. It to will come to an end sometime. They are the ones that are actually bringing it about their own final demise. 'Inshallah' cant come soon enough.
28. Comment
Mohammad ,   Jordan   (09.12.09)
This article = utter nonsense. I regret wasting five minutes of my "short life" reading this. Ohhh, i might be accused of "anti semintism" for the way i expressed my opinion!
29. The "progressive" community abroad should read this article,
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (09.12.09)
but of course it is critical of Islamism thus it members would consider it "Zionist propaganda" instead of looking at reality for what it is and not what the "progressives" wish it to be.
30. FURTHER - !!!.
(09.12.09)
The Islamization of anti-Semitism Oslo Accords, instead of curbing anti-Semitism, had opposite effect ALL SO CALLED, ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-JUDAISM, ANTI-ZIONISM, HAS ALREADEY SEVERAL 1000-YEARS AGO, BEEN PROPHESIED AND FORETOLD BY THE PROPHETS OF JEHOWAH. ISLAM AND WHATEVER EXPRESSES THOSE ANTI- ABOVE, DID NOT EXIST WHEN PROPESIED BY THOSE PROPHETS. ISLAM AND WHATEVER, IS ONLY, "THE OUTHER COAT", THIS HOSTILITY 1OOO OF YEARS OLD IS CLOTHED IN. THE CAUSE FOR THIS HOSTILITY, IS THE EVIL ONE, BOTH AGAINST JEHOWAH AND HIS PEOPLE. AND ISLAM AND WHATEVER, IS ONLY THE SELFDECEPTIONS, THOSE FOLLOWING THE EVIL ONE, USE TO DECEIVE THEMSELVE WITH. IF YOU DO NOT LIE TO YOURSELF, YOU CAN NOT ACT AGANST JEHOWAH AND HIS PEOPLE, AS THOS ANTI-FOLLOWES DO. Arn.
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