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Bedouins protest against State
Ilana Curiel
Published: 03.10.09, 16:53
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1. Bedouins
1 ,   1   (10.03.09)
This is Shameful. The Negev bedouin have been living in the negev dessert 7000 years. They never left the area throughout those 7000 yrs and have always maintained a constant presence in the area. They even serve in the israeli army. The Tuba-Zangariyye Bedouin helped defend the jewish communities in the 1936-1939 arab revolt when jews were defenceless without any weapons. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War they formed an alliance with the Haganah defending Jewish communities in the Upper Galilee against Syria. If this is how israel treat thier friends, i wonder how they treat thier enemies. Israelis should help the bedouin, not give them more problems. All of my facts were taken from theese sites just incase israelis say im spreading lies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Bedouins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuba-Zangariyye
2. Response to #1!
Michael ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.03.09)
I agree totaly with what you said about the bedouins.....and i'm Israeli, zionist and even not a leftist!
3. #1,2
Tony ,   New York/Israel   (10.03.09)
What a load of rubbish. So what if they lived in the area? We live in the modern world now. They either live like any other citizen, or they should shut up and solve their problems themselves. State doesn't owe them anything. If they want to build their "villages", they can apply for proper permits, pending ALL zoning regulations, and pay their electricity and water bills like anyone else. Their antics, theft, unemployment, and unsustainable overbreeding must end!
4. support them, the state should recognize their villages.
idan ,   haifa,israel.   (10.03.09)
5. to no 2
1 ,   1   (10.03.09)
First time that i've had an israeli agree with me. Im not against the israeli people and even though i dont support zionism i do believe that jews should have thier state of israel as 3.1 million mizrahi jews live in israel who were kicked out of thier countries in the middle east and another 1.1 million are arab christians and muslim. Theese people make up about 55% of the population who are descendants of people who have already been living in the middle east. Ive learned alot about the Israeli-arab conflict, and i understand both arguments coming from each side. I understand that jewish scriptures say that god promised you all the land including jordan, and i know the jewish people dont want to go against God. Then i can see the palestinian arabs point of view of thier desire to return back to the land where thier ancestors lived. Jews dont want to divide the land with the palestinians as it goes against the torah but then if they have a one state soloution there wil be more arabs than jews and it wont be a jewish state no more. One soloution i have thought of is if israel was run by a jewish king like in dubai. Dubai has more immigrants than actaul orignal citizens but is still a muslim country with sharia law because it is governed by the royal family. I have not read anywhere that it says in the jewish scriptures that only jews can live in israel and i understand that non-jewish people lived there in ancient times. Then theres the temple mount. I can't think of any soloutions for this apart from one side giving it up. If they were build side by side then there would also be problems with the foundation stone which has the dome of rock built on top of this. Sharing wont work and i dont know if jews or muslims will be willing to but certainly not yet as tensions between the two are high. Usually i read some of the comments and go away. Most are always filled with hate, nothing positive that will help the situation, just stuff that makes the situation worse.
6. To no 3
1 ,   1   (10.03.09)
They want to live like any other citizen but they dont have water going to thier villages that were built before the state of israel was created. Theese people are good people that have shown loyalty to the jews living in israel when jews had a weaker army than the arabs. They helped jews create the state. They protected it and continue to serve in the IDF. How can they pay thier water bills. They dont get no water. What does "we live in the modern world mean?" You are talking nonesense. Theese citizens are loyal and all they are asking for is water. This is not too much too ask. Israel has little friends and enough enemies in the world, why would you want to turn friends like theese into enemies?
7. Bedouins are landgrabbing
daniel ,   JM   (10.03.09)
with all due respect, the Bedouin Communities in Israel consist of 7 towns 45 “unrecognized” villages - (aout 45,000 illegal houses) and 60+ unrecognized camps. These people have every right to live in the Land however they, like all other citizens of the state are obligated to purchase their land from the state and/or JNF who own it and apply for building permits. They're projecting their landgrabbing on the state just as their cousins do in JM and the galilee (where their are over 900,000 standing demolition orders which have yet to be followed through with. Anyone siding with the Bedouins are siding with land theft and blatant violation of the law. The largest Bedouin village Rahat's #1 profession is car theft. These people have theft in their blood and they're trying to come off as victims?!
8. to nos, i say yes
me   (10.04.09)
we dont have to give in to all their demands. we just have to be good to them. and controling overbreeding, nos, has been conclusivly shown to be best acomplished by raising quality of living. raising quality of living also reduces crime. im serious, look it up. thus if we want to reduce the growth of their numbers, give them water! besides which: they are our friends!!! come on, they were good to us. it doesnt matter what their rights are, or this or that. it goes deeper than that. they are our friends. and they are turing against us, partially on ther own, but alot because we are bad to them. i'm a likudnik, and i still think this. if we can't be good to our friends, then who are we. if you still disagree, play "shir ahava bedoi", and listen to your heart
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