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Human Rights Watch calls Hamas to investigate own war crimes
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Published: 21.10.09, 11:40
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1. Goldstone give it a rest it's too late for
ghostq   (10.21.09)
the damage you done, sometimes there is no second chance, just retire with the very lil honor you got, it's no use, you want to tell me that a sucide bomb can't be count as crime against humanity. your attempt for self damange controll is pointless.
2. Human Rights Watch Discredited Even By Its Founder
martin ,   tel aviv - Israel   (10.21.09)
Human Rights Watch, the NGO that has become more famous for its obsessive attempts to delegitimize Israel than for its stated mission to promote global human rights, is becoming less and less credible. Now, even its founder and former chairman, Robert Bernstein, has publicly dissociated himself from that NGO's agenda. Just how far the organization has strayed from its founding mission to become an extremist anti-Israel NGO was plainly illustrated by Bernstein, in a New York Times Op-Ed entitled "Rights Watchdog, Lost in the Middle East" (Oct. 19).
3. Why Hamas?
Igor ,   Germany   (10.21.09)
If Gaza is "occupied territory", why should---no! wait!, how can---Hamas investigate any crimes there? They are not in power and in position to do it. Only Israel can investigate Hamas' crimes, right, Mr. Goldstone?
4. 4 Israeli troops killed; 1500 Palestinian civilians killed
Ben ,   USA   (10.21.09)
Numbers tell the whole story, brutal Jewish terror and occupation against defenseless, unarmed Palestinians, HR should call for immediate arresting and prosecuting of Jewish terrorists and war criminals.
5. to #4 at lease use the women and children
ghostq   (10.21.09)
usuall blatant.
6. yeah, right!
tom ,   toronto, canada   (10.21.09)
hamas is a criminal organization, whose very charter declares its intention to commit genocide, and whose attacks deliberately target civilians. hrw's declaration now seeks to equate israel, a legitimate, democratic country with human (and civil) rights guaranteed by law (including israeli arabs), with hamas, a terrorist group that tortures and murders its political opponents, and has engaged in 10 years of criminal terrorist attacks directed against israeli civilians. the very idea that hamas, which has orchestrated a pr campaign of falsehoods for the benefit of the goldstone commission, and which considers "taqqiya" (deception) to be a divinely commanded tactic in the struggle to conquer the infidel, should now "investigate itself" is just too stupid for words.! or perhaps hrw is merely seeking to counter the charges that it is obsessively anti-israel in its statements on the middle east.
7. #4 Ben, I agree with you totally.
Marco ,   Spain   (10.21.09)
8. #4 very funny
tom ,   toronto, canada   (10.21.09)
operation cast lead ended 9 months ago, and already the arab palestinian casualties have increased by 50%! but otherwise, your argument that the casualty numbers, even if true, somehow mean that israel committed war crimes is complete nonsense. when there's a shootout between criminals and police, do you also count casualties? if the police shoot an armed criminal, is that a crime? should one policeman die for every armed robber? there is a principle of "proportionality" in international law, but it doesn't mean that israel cannot defend itself against criminal attacks. it means that israel can use military force to stop attacks, such as the 10,000 qassam rockets fired from gaza, but it cannot use means that are not directed at the enemy combatants. the idf did not carpet bomb gaza city, for example. your assertion that israel "occupies" gaza is a very strange one - israel withdrew its last soldier (and civiiam) from gaza in august, 2005. in response, the peaceful folks in gaza, fired thousands of qassam rockets into israel, including almost 100 a day in december 2008. the big difference in casualties reflects not the savagery of the israelis, but the wanton disregard for human life of the arab terrorist organizations, which freely kill their own women and children, "for the cause". israel has built bomb shelters for civilians, whereas hamas not only doesn't protect women and children, but uses them instead as human shields, and suicide bombers. your obvious reliance on arab propaganda and distortions would be pathetic if it were not so perncious.
9. #4 Jew-Hater does not know there are non-Jews in IDF
Cynic ,   USA   (10.21.09)
10. tom
Ilana   (10.21.09)
very well put. I always thought that hamas should be ashamed at not only NOT trying to ensure the safety of its civilians by means of shelters built instead of tunnels used to sneak in weapons, they actually endangered them by using young teens as soldiers, schools, hospitals, mosques and ambulances as a cover and place from which to shoot missiles, they had kids in front of them to protect themselves, and if all of that is not horrible enough, they then used the injured or killed, be it civilian or not, to brag numbers!!! If Israel did not care for her civilians, I am afraid to think of how many numbers of dead we could "brag" about. So behind statistics thereis plenty of information. Everyone knows that.
11. #4 Thats the problem-not enuf Jews were killed
Alan ,   SA   (10.21.09)
The Pals were hoping to kill a few hundred Israeli Soldiers . They should complain to Iran... for a crappy War plan. Now they bringing in more rockets and moving civilians to border fence to build tunnels INTO Israel again.-Israel isnt drawing UNSC to this escalation.
12. only thing hamas finds itself guilty of is not murderng more
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (10.21.09)
13. #8
Resistor   (10.21.09)
So, Tom, Palestinians are free to farm thier land in Gaza, near the fence, and the fishermen are free to fish up to 12 kilometres from shore, there is plenty of food for all???????
14.  Good one!. The day these fascist scum become honest &
Jae ,   Lynn US   (10.21.09)
probe themselves , serving justice upon themselves, and not hiding behind or near civilians like extreme cowards and pedophiles...is the day pigs fly. Hamas are scum plain and simple . They worship power and destruction, death and domination. They have little to no connection to the God of Avraham
15. Hamas is a war crime......
Truth Hertz ,   UK   (10.21.09)
Against the palestinian people who could be living in peace and prosperity if it weren't for their corrupt, power mad, criminal leaders.
16. The UN and HRWare legitimizing the Hamas
Pedro ,   Brazil   (10.21.09)
17. to #13 quit whining
ghostq   (10.21.09)
Hamas can answer that for Tom. after all it's them who walks in civilian clothes and put bomb trapes near the fence, use UN ambulances as escape cares.
18. While they're at it....
Jacob Erickson ,   Holon, Israel   (10.21.09)
Why not ask them to probe themselves for all the war crimes they have committed, even the ones before and after Operation Cast Lead. I bet they will give you same same answer: "We don't commit war crimes, we're freedom fighters for the Palestinian Nation and Allah, there is no wrong we can ever do, furthermore, we don't recognize your laws that make them crimes to begin with, and there's nothing you can do about it"
19. LOL
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (10.21.09)
Hamas is a war-crime. Their charter is a war-crime with calls to murder Jews for the crime of being Jews. They did everything they could to commit war-crimes and now they claim to 'investigate'.
20. Is this guy kidding
J K ,   NYC, USA   (10.21.09)
Will doctors soon start saying, 'Patients, heal thyself?' Is there a person with an active brain cell who believes that Hamas can or would conduct an investigation of this magnitude and give accurate findings? Man, I needed a good laugh today, but this..this is just sad. www.tzomet.net
21. to #13
Atlanta, USA   (10.21.09)
They have to choose: -either they can fish and farm wherever they want but they stop attacking and make their boats explode near israeli vessels and plant bombs or kidnap israeli soldiers in israeli territory. -either they wage war against israel (actually this is the case) so you should not be surprised! You are only saying what the european media keep repeating all the time witouht analysis: it is like I am writing to a poor parrot without a brain : PLEASE ANALYSE next time: I COME FROM FRANCE and I know 100% how the media are distorting the truth! They only speak about the consequence and NEVER the cause: I have plllllllllleeeeeenty of examples to show you! So please analyse Information next time before wasting our time.
22. Asking the Head Fox to investigate....
Galut ,   Selah   (10.21.09)
which Hen the weasal put the bomb under....
23. #7 of course you would because you need to be in a mental
rac hel ,   usa   (10.21.09)
institution.
24. Dear fox, please check to see if you ate all the chickens in
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (10.21.09)
the hen house or if they died of natural causes.
25. I just cannot stop laughing.
Vicky ,   Ashkelon Israel   (10.21.09)
26. Marco
Oscar ,   Houston, USA   (10.21.09)
Marco, why didn't you do the equation before. Tens of thousands of Palestinian missiles vs 0 Israeli reaction. If the human rights group would have investigated Hamas war crimes 4 years ago there wouldn't have been any Israeli war crimes to start with. I would like to know how would your government react if 20 missiles would explode in Madrid every day. How would you enjoy to wake up 5-6 times a night with bombs.
27. to no 4
Oscar ,   Houston, USA   (10.21.09)
sending missiles to explode amongst civilians is a war crime as per Goldstone report. Why were not these war crimes investigated earlier? How should a country subjected to war crimes by its neighbor for 8 years and unprotected by the UN react? What proofs did mr Goldstone have to differentiate between civilians and non civilians?
28. investigations what investigation?
bobo ,   echburg USA   (10.21.09)
Let me get this straight... Hammas, investigating Hammas for crimes Hammas committed during Operation Cast Lead? Does anyone anywhere within the rehlm of sanity actually believe Hammas isn't rolling over the floor in laughter. This will be worked on for ten years, all the time peace is just a concept from a fortune cookie. Lets get some real law and order here. The UN id an outlived orginazation that needs to be dumpted.
29. #4 there were more Germen and Russian Casualties in WW2.
(10.21.09)
i guess that mean they were 'the good guys'.
30. #4 Ben - You are 100% correct , I gree with you totally .
Gilad Shalit   (10.21.09)
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