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Settlers take over east Jerusalem home    Ronen Medzini
31. No problem, return all Arabs to their pre-1948 homes
Ok, if Israel wants to play this game, then it is only fair to return all Arabs who were expelled to the homes they owned pre-1948. There are hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria who are still holding the original deeds to their homes from before 1948. That would pretty much mean every Jew in Haifa and Jaffa and Lod had to pack up and leave. But fair is fair.
Adam ,   Australia   (11.03.09)
32. Israel should evict all enemies out of her land.
Those who don't like Israel should be expelled. Muslims lost the wars to Israel so too bad. Make all the homes in Israel (from 1948 lines, not 1967) jewish. Convert to jewish or leave. Muslims lost war so go home to Jordan or any other 99% muslim land. Enough said.
JC ,   USA   (11.03.09)
33. An observation I noticed....
"Dozens of settlers took over the home of a Palestinian family in east Jerusalem Tuesday in an ongoing custody battle involving 28 houses that courts say belonged to Jews before the establishment of the State. " So, can Palestinians take the state of Israel to court for cities that were built upon/stolen from already existing Palestinian ones? Just saying...
Addle ,   Toronto   (11.03.09)
34. #27 Son of sam---Please enlighten us. Give us scripture &
verse. ,   Son of Hashem   (11.03.09)
35. To: No. 5
The Palestinians have no right of return to territories which were lost to Israel during the course of Israel's defensive war against Jordan in 1967. That said, a lot of Palestinians have produced rusty old keys, but no deeds. That won't cut it in a court of law. Sorry. Coming from Italy as you do, may I ask if the Italian residents of Istria who were evicted by the Yugoslavian government when Istria was given to Yugoslavia after World War II have a right of return? Of course not. Please allow Israel to abide by the same international convention, which says roughly "You lose; you have to leave. And you cannot come back." If it bothers you so much in Jerusalem, why does it not bother you at all with respect to Istria?
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.03.09)
36. hehehe
B"H "Settlers armed with court orders" LOL, you guys are getting better every day that passes!
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim,   (11.03.09)
37. typical
Typical the goverment will only reconise the jewish claim and not the arab one,this is just a other provocation by the extreme right against the current status quo in east jerusalem
marko ,   tel aviv   (11.03.09)
38. Amen Brother: Kick those settlers out of your house
and shame on YNet for intentionally using derogatory and inflammatory words only against Jews
Ralph Miller ,   DC, USA   (11.03.09)
39. Arrogance by the arabs
Funny if it wasn't a sad indictment. They say they had a contract with Jordan?wow,memory is flat out of their brains.Gee whiz...That was 60+years ago.The propety is part of Israel now,and NOT JORDAN you fools.
James ,   Israel   (11.03.09)
40. So for 37 years the arabs have been illigally stealing the
The homes of our Jews.The arrogance to say they had a contract with Jordan gives us Jews/isralis more power to send them exactly where they belong...CLEAR AS DAY. Out of their moughs they have shown their GUILT.Jordanawaits their lot,the sooner the better.
Kate ,   ISRAEL   (11.03.09)
41. Apartheid again
The Israeli gov't basically shoots itself in the foot every time they allow this to take place. How is this not apartheid when Jewish landowners have more rights than Arab landowners from before 1948? There is no hasbara department that can correct this inequity. Shame.
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42. To: No. 28
Should have accepted the two-state solution back in 1947. Going to war instead clearly did not serve your interests at all. But go to war you did, and lost. Lost again in 1967. To the victor belong the spoils. The losers get what they deserve for having instigated violent conflict to begin with. Seems perfectly fair to me. It's also how the world has worked since time immemoria. What makes you so special that you deserve different treatment than any other belligerent that loses a war? Can't put toothpaste back into the tube; can't rewrite Palestinian Arab history any differently. It is what it is, and you brought it all upon yourselves. You are the architects of your misfortune, not Israel. Please keep that in mind before you launch yourself on yet another in a long line of Palestinian pity parties. They are getting so tiresome.
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.03.09)
43. To: No. 24
Non, mon cher. The Palestinians lost territory (including homes) as a direct consequence of losing two wars in which Arabs were the aggressors. Tant pis pour eux.
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.03.09)
44. And Israelis Wonder Why The World Has Such A Low Opinion ...
Of Them. The whole world is watching the people of Israel steal the birthright of the Palestinian people. One day the United States will not be able to protect you in the United Nations. Then Israel will be officially designated as a pariah state. It will match the opinion the civilized world as already formed about your sad country.
World Citizen ,   the world   (11.03.09)
45. Shukran, Samir wa S. Koury! (thanks). My husband and I,
now living in Canada, together with our five children, were pushed our place by Muslims in Bait Lahm, for no other reason than being Christians. The Jews at least do it with court orders, not with a gun aiming at us as we were forced out several years ago.
Laila ,   Toronto, Canada   (11.03.09)
46. This are the legitimate owners?
JK ,   nyc usa   (11.03.09)
47. ANd shame on you Ynet for not publishing some of my posts
At least now i see it came out from the "horses mouth"With a reply toSamir from one of his own---but a Christian who fled and lives in Toronto-Canada announcing it with: SHUKRAN
James   (11.03.09)
48. Max #19: Your career initiative
sounds like a positive and needed one and, for us older folks, it's important to know that there are, amongst the younger generation in the diaspora, people taking on worthy challenges with regard to Israel. As you indicate, psycho-linguistics is very important as it shapes peoples' minds and perceptions. Referring to Jews who inhabit "the occupied territories" as "settlers" now has a bad connotation. I no longer use the terms "occupied" or the Westbank" but refer to these areas as "Judea" and "Samaria" and the "settlements" as "villages". The term "settlement" was the original translation for the Hebrew "yishuv" but in modern parlance it takes on a negative connotation whereas "villages" could refer to both Arab and Jewish ones. As to "settlers" being referred to as "pilgrims", I'm wondering if that term will hold up the Jewish villagers of Judea and Samaria to derision. At any rate, I hope you keep at it. And thank you!
Robert Haymond ,   Ashdod, Israel   (11.03.09)
49. Stealing of natives' homes is an old trick
Which the Arabs have perfected. The Copts have gone from 28% of the population of Egypt to 7%. The Christians were over 90% of Beit Lekhem, now less than 10%. Morroco continues it's genocide of the Berbers, the Kurds are persecuted by the Turks, Iraqis, Syrians and Iranians, etc. etc. The fact is all minorities under Muslim rule are oppressed and discriminated against by the majority. We will regain our lands from the thieves. The rest of the world can whine about it all they want.
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (11.03.09)
50. News flash: Most Palestinians never owned any land here...
Prior to 1917, all land here was either owned by the Effendim, Jews, Christians, or the Turkish Sultan, who owned the vast majority of it. All land owned by the Sultan was transferred to the British who then transferred it to Israel per the League of Nations mandate. On the other hand, most 'Palestinians' are descended from Fellahin who were merely tenant farmers with the right to subsist off of the land owned by others. Just because they lived in a particular village for X generations doesn't mean they owned the land that village was on. Most Arab deeds are phony.
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51. #44 Birthright of Pal. peeps? Ownership of property is NOT a
birthright. Individual ownership of property is subject to municipal laws --(NOT international laws)-- that govern the financial exchange of property. I might be more inclined to believe your staus as a World Citizen if I weren't pretty darn sure that the Arabian sand is getting in your eyes and keeping you from seeing straight. Until there is a viable peace treaty with the Palestinian Arabs, Israel will retain sovereignty over Jerusalem and govern according to the rule of law established by the State.
usa   (11.03.09)
52. Jerusalem, the Arabs and the Jews.
Palestinian irredentists claim that eastern Jerusalem is historically Arab territory and should be the capital of a future Palestinian state. In reality, Jews always lived in eastern Jerusalem — it is the location of the Old City and its famous Jewish Quarter. Only from 1948 to 1967 — during the Jordanian occupation — was the eastern part of Israel's capital "Arab territory." Palestinians have no more claim to sovereignty there than Russia does in formerly occupied eastern Berlin. As to Jerusalem : http://xrl.us/be488z
Ron B. ,   Lod   (11.03.09)
53. #51 So I guess Germany...
had the right to expel Jews because their laws at the time forbid them from owning property despite the Jews possessing ownership licenses/property deeds?
Addle ,   Toronto   (11.03.09)
54. To #52
East Jerusalem should in reality, belong to neither Jews or Arabs since the city was designated as an "international" one by the partition plan. But since both groups claim it, it should be divided based on previous alignment (East Jerusalem to a Palestinian state, the rest of of Jerusalem to Israel). Of course, Israel alone occupying East Jerusalem is against international law(military occupation and forceful population transfers are big no no's). And ha at your source. The bible does not count as a claim for a city just like how you can't use Harry Potter to claim there is magic.
Addle ,   Toronto   (11.03.09)
55. To: No. 53
Non sequitur. Until stripped of their citizenship, their businesses and the property they owned, the Jews of Germany had all of the above, and the provenance proving it. What you clearly fail to appreciate is that the Nuremberg Laws of Germany made it illegal to be Jewish. Everything that ensued followed therefrom; fruit from the poisoned tree. It is not "illegal" to be Arab -- whether Moslem or Christian -- in the State of Israel. Like most nations, however, it is illegal to squat on property that belongs to others. Since Germany is the example you have chosen, I suggest you direct your attention to what happened following unification, when thousands of West Germans went to the courts to re-acquire their properties in what had been East Germany. They did so successfully. So your "point" (to use a rather generous descriptive) is both inapposite and irrelevant.
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.04.09)
56. #53 ur post merits a response:
It's a convenient but superficial comparison for you to make. The Israeli Arabs are not "forbidden" to own property. They are "forbidden" from occupying-- (yes, I said OCCUPYING)--property without legal building permits. It is not the same as stripping an entire ethnicity of its right to own ANY property, as happened during WW2. Be candid now and admit the same is true for anybody, regardless of ethnicity, even in Canada.
@53 ,   usa   (11.04.09)
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