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Alone in the world
Yigal Sarna
Published: 04.11.09, 10:55
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1. Jews will always be alone !
Miriam Woelke ,   Tel Aviv   (11.04.09)
Israel and the Jewish nation as a whole will always be alone in this world. No matter how hard you try to assimilate or adjust to the nations, to them you will always be "THE JEW" !
2. Keep Bibi for long time
Inyaki ,   Bilbao, Basque   (11.04.09)
This is true, no wars with Bibi, so maybe one should keep Bibi for a very long period of time? Trigger happy Olmert is an opportunist, while Bibi is ideologically guided Revisionist. It is definitly better to have somebody like Bibi. Another typical opportunist is peres- as contrary to a serios realist Rabin (Z"L). Rabin also wouldn't go for a kill, if not absolutely necessary.
3. The LEFT is the ENEMY of ISRAEL!
Eradicate the LEFT!!   (11.04.09)
4. Wars are bad and should be prevented by suicide
Patriot ,   Israel   (11.04.09)
Look at the US, the biggest producer or arms in the world. A poor and war-torn country? Look at Russia, making billions with hi-tech weaponry, should we pity them? Look at the UK, a former empire that fought countless wars. Should we send them rice? But no, the leftists don't want to hear facts. Wars are bad, war is hell. We should pack our bags and return to Russia, Europe and Morocco to prevent further wars.
5. Israel to be all alone as it faces wars ....
Pauline ,   Israel   (11.04.09)
Sorry to burst your bubble but Israel is always alone when it faces wars, anyone who says they stand with us is only paying lipservice.
6. Alone again naturally
Laura ,   Jerusalem   (11.04.09)
Why does Yigal sound surprised in his writing? the Jewish nation has always been, will always be alone. Yigal, the world has watched us burn in the spanish inquisitions, pograms of europe, the shoah, why do you believe that we have friends ? We are the Jewish nation, we are supposed to be alone and be a light unto all nations.
7. Don't use term "for us" when U comper patriot with antisemit
Mosche ,   Haifa   (11.04.09)
U & your "Gold" frend "shev ba sheket" during war in your apartment, after rat's go out make "publicity" on the bones of OUR fallen soldier's...
8. Hi Interns!
Mara ,   Tel Aviv   (11.04.09)
Hi to all the interns working away...tell Natalie I say hi!
9. Doesn't YNET have more serious informative writers ???
Norman   (11.04.09)
10. more garbage
mardcel   (11.04.09)
You do not make piece if its a bad deal and yoiu don't kiss rear ends. Lieberman is blunt but accurate adn the middle east needs a bit of straight talk and not the olmert lies of beacutiful peace. Israelis know better than to trust beilin with his olslo formulations, and barak with his peace in our time and finally the worst olmert is we are tired of fighting. What did israel get, what did rabin get? 1000s of rockets and death death death and maiming. So slow steps forward and status quo are the battle order. Ask the 1 million israelis in the south who are they better under. You make me sick with your peace talks. There should be no peace talks except arrangements.
11. I hate you publication
Isaac ,   Ra'anana   (11.04.09)
It’s just amazing that people can think like you. I am sure you are the kind of citizen that your children have your blessing not to go to the army, you have a tag of handicap in your car to park any were you want even that you are a normal human “but you think you are smarter that the media”. I waste my time reading your article.
12. there will be civil war first
Yossi ,   Haifa   (11.04.09)
The biggest danger is a potential civil war started by the settler thugs and the ultra orthadox, personally this secular cant wait ...bring it on, we are ready.
13. To my fellow TBers 1 - 7
Smith ,   TA, Israel   (11.04.09)
Contrary to your beliefs (except for 3 who is clearly an associate of Teitel) Israel has always relied upon international support in order to execute our military objectives. I will point to two recent examples that you're all too hysterical to realize that Israel received considerable international support. Lebanon War 2006. The British, French, German, several East European, the Danish and of course the American government held off public and international pressure to end the war immediately; this gave Israel the 6-weeks to try and obliterate Hezbollah. Also America transferred via British and German airspace some heavy bunker buster bombs to help with the war effort. That Israel failed to obliterate Hezbollah is a different matter. Operation Cast Lead. Again Israel was given the wide support of the West to launch an attack on Gaza. Again Israel managed to screw it up by unnecessarily prolonging the war making it difficult to maintain sustained support from the West. Should I go on? 1973? 1967? You fools honestly think Israel is an island? This country would look like Gaza if it wasn't for the backing of the West. Since we're part of a family of democracies they are entitled to disagree with us but all of you being hysterical take that to mean something else. Much like TBers #3, you have a low tolerance for pluralism and an even lower understanding of the nuances of maintaining alliances (much like that alleged criminal Liberman).
14. ISRAEL WILL NEVER BE ALONE!
Archie ,   USA   (11.04.09)
Say whatever you want, but true christians will always support you and love you! and God will always be on your side. Israel has proven its greatness to the entire world in short 65 years that has been resurrected!
15. Hope?
David   (11.04.09)
There is nothing more damaging than groundless hope. Hoping for peace, when there is no basis for reaching an agreement with one's enemies is suicidal. And we can see where the left brought us with their policies based on pipe dreams.
16. A flawed thesis- Where does Ynet get these fools?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (11.04.09)
Only yesterday Ynet had another article arguing that "Israel made the wrong choice by choosing Netanyahu". It was yet another baseless argument easily found wanting. "Bib's terms in office are usually periods devoid of hope", he writes. Is that hope that the left will return to power? Or the delusional hope that our enemies will make peace with our existence if we concede everything? As to the economy, look at the historic evidence. Sarna bemoans "the price of newly created poverty", ignoring the decades that bleeding heart socialism kept the entire country in economic straits. Yes, some sectors are struggling, but it's not because Bibi is in charge. It also takes a measure of chutzpah to note the investigations Lieberman is confronting while ignoring those of the last two prime ministers and myriad Labor and Kadima officials. So what if Lieberman is "blunt and brutal" if by that he's saying what needs to be said while working to strengthen ties to countries ignored by his predecessors? Face it. This is just a left wing campaign of "sour grapes".
17. Far-fetched analysis
Brod ,   USA   (11.04.09)
The fact that there is no war under Netanyahu shows that he is a strong leader. Israel's enemies dare not confront him otherwise they would get a piece of their pie to their detriment. The dark forces knew Olmert was a weak leader. Ergo, they provoked him with tit for tat. They know that a leader who is an Appeaser is a weak leader and it emboldens the Islamist-Jihadists to intensify their attacks on Israel. The enemies know that when Israel has strong leaders like Netanyahu and Lieberman, it deters them from provoking Israel. And they know that Israel is focusing its eyes closely on the fanatics' nuke development. In this duel, they blink when confronted with Israel's strong leaders.
18. Israel alone ?
DT ,   TA Israel   (11.04.09)
Better that than have "friends" like Brown, Obama, Merkel, Sarkozy
19. Get real.
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (11.04.09)
Hands up those who really believe that the monkey from Moldova is the real foreign minister of Israel. Yes Yes ,ladies and gentleman I can see one hand , Orly Levy , well of course she was brought up to think that Daddy was really the F.M. what can you expect. Some day some time we will get it right.?
20. Alone in the world
David ,   Jerusalem Israel   (11.04.09)
Congratulations ynet, one of your most inane articles so far, how easy is it for Mr Sama to sit at his PC and write while others have the full picture of the dangers we face and try and deal with them.
21. WHAT KIND OF AN IDIOT IS THIS ???.
Arn-Orao. ,   Sweden-Srbia.   (11.04.09)
Those who believe that it is better to have a thousand people hurt on the other side rather than one person here should know that any kind of death comes with a heavy price, even if it happens later on. Mass deaths on the other side, beyond the moral aspect, come with a price that will be exacted from us in installments for many years to come. There is no free killing. Olmert left a heavy debt, and Goldstone is merely the actuary. SO THE SHEEPS SHOULD BE OFFERED IN SOME NUMBERS, AS TO PAY TO SOME MORAL ASPECT OF YIGAL SARNA ???. WHY DO YIGAL SARNA THEN NOT GO AND SACRIFICE HIMSELF, TO MAKE UP FOR THIS MORAL ASPECT OF HIS !!! - ???. FURTHER - And what about the wars? They were merely delayed a little and will come around soon, immediately after Netanyahu’s term in office ends, like an old debt that needs to be paid. Yet this time it will be done without allies or good neighbors. We will be all alone. WHAT AN OLD DEBT OWES OR HAS ISRAEL TO PAY TO IRAN OR SYRIA ???. AMAZING, WHAT KIND OF IDIOTS AND FOOLS THERE ARE. Arn-Orao.
22. The Wars We Have Fought Are Because Of Leftist Policy
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (11.04.09)
You have a very short and selective memory. Barak left Lebanon with his tail behind his legs and Lebanon followed us back- twice. Barak also brought us the Intifada by not learning that you don't give- or even offer, terrorists ANYTHING but the choice of surrender or die. And the "disengagement"? Ask anyone in the south about how successful it has been- and now Tel Aviv is in reach of Gazan missiles. You never learn, do you?
23. .....is 'Appeasement' your Answer?
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (11.04.09)
this global storm wasn't started by Bibi, it was perpetrated by those who control the vast oil wealth that finances the endless media war against Israel. When you repeat a message for 8 years after time people begin to believe it. It's not the fault of Bibi or any Israeli leader, rather it's a 'global inquisition' that has taken hold, influenced by the Oil Sultans who cleverly use their wealth to permanently modify one's perception of Israel sponsoring media outlets who deliver agenda's for a fee, along with university study programs & non-profits with Orwellian titles that confuse, misdirect and revise truth, history, facts to meet their claims
24. Better for Israel
(11.04.09)
Look at NATO members how many countries they got and they are getting their assess kicked all over afganistan.
25. Israel is alone
Lioness ,   Israel   (11.04.09)
But we walk alone with G-d and it is G-d that will redeem us from all our enemies. Just have a little faith.
26. the Poverty myth
Golan ,   SL   (11.04.09)
If you want jobs then make the area more friendly to EMPLOYERS not workers. If you want "poverty" to go away then "make" people do something with their lives. Take away their television, internet, basketball...drugs... and even then you'll find out that their is nothing you can do to stop the lazy.
27. what war were we not alone?
golan ,   sl   (11.04.09)
The ONLY war in which we were "not alone" was Kadesh (1956) and it was when (especially) the Americans, as well as the British, and the French stabbed us in the back. To be fair though the Americans stabbed the British and the French too. But we got screwed. 1948? we only had the Czechs on our side. 1967? french betrayal. 1973? US only rearmed us AFTER we turned the war. 1982? the leftist Jews supported the PLO. 2000/2006/2009 we had FOXNEWS on our side... big help that was. So lets put things in perspective. This is stupid criticism.
28. Israel was condemned for the Entebee rescue too
Golan ,   Sl   (11.04.09)
July 1976, Israel was condemned by the international community for going into Africa and rescuing the Jewish and FRENCH flight crew who insisted on remaining with them (to their credit and perpetual honor.) For this act of heroism and self defense Israel was condemned. I wish us more such condemnations. Blessed are the dead, hated are the successful, despised are the talented. "Be hated, and despised" should be a blessing.
29. HaShem likes us alone, because then when he kicks ass.....
Yessss ,   Israel   (11.04.09)
He gets ALL the credit. Remember Mitzraym. It will happen again....
30. :: Israel will always be alone...
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (11.04.09)
as long as it keeps looking internally. as long as it oppresses and occupies a helpless people. as long as it refuses to sign up to international laws and treaties. as long as it refuses to make peace with its neighbors. as long as it refuses to take responsibility for its own action.
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