1. Don't bank on long lasting friendships Alex
In the end their violent Islamic nature will prevail, just look at all the million attempts Israel and Israelis have made to reach out to Arbs in the Middle East.
They all have ended up in failure
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2. Kick this Israeli engineer out of Iraq...
He is nothing but a spy!
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3. Israeli engineer in Iraq
Mr. Shapira should contact the Rav Firer regarding his Iraqi friend's son's leukemia being treated in Israel
| Dr. Shepen , |
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5. HEY MARCO #2: Are you really a
Spaniard from Spain or are you just making us believe that you are from Spain?
I overheard you speak in Los Angeles the other day.
At any rate, even if you are just pretending your anti-semetic tirade, it is not good that you do that.
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6. you guys take me too seriously
i am only kidding herefor the benefit of the UMMA ULEMA
| Marco El Puerco,Puta , |
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7. Everything can on a new light
when people meet, communicate and share. But then again, recall our gentile neighbours and friends in eastern Europe who subsequently went out of their way to steal, taunt and kill us. But then there were others who risked their lives to keep us safe. With human beings, there is no formula to follow.
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8. #1
Are you blinded by your hatred? Don't you see that you are saying the same thing about Arabs that anti-semites have said about Jews?
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9. I do not understand your point #8
it is irrelevant to the topic
you do not live in the Middle East and do not see realities I see here and have witnessed for a long time
this is not a game, ignoring facts of life and cultural behavior in the region is always a big mistake and dangerous to one's life
| Genuine Tosefta , |
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10. "They were very Pro Israel."..lol..
One suspects Alex.. and You must be one of those very nice Israelis.. you are on a PR excersise...I think Ynet put this story out .. more in hope and wishful thinking than in reality.
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11. To Genuine Tosfta #1
It is nice while it lasts,but for how long can it? I,.like you have great reservations.All fine being friendly with only one bunch,but what of the rest?
Well,okay while it lasted,but can easily reverse according to their mentality.
WOULD I TRUST THEM-ANY OFTHEM NOPE!
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12. To Israeli re: So-called M in Spain?
If he is a Marco,then I am the man in the moon.He is nothing but an arab squatter and a follower of Jihad.
Not he a spaniard, for sure.
If you read his post yesterday lauding the thrre mother f.....ukers, you will get the gist about this bofoon.
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13. To #6 Briefly put *****
Si tu no sos un islamofascist ,then tell us "porque escribes" such arab propaganda.Tu sos UN GRANDE LOCO.Now piss off.
And don't try(like as arabs do)change your tack by saying:we shouldn't take you seriously? Therefore just shut up.Tu boca es muy negra.Como los jihadists you admire.If you think we will believe you,scumbag you are mistaken.
| James , |
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14. Heartwarming article
| Mark , |
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15. James at #13
Shabbat Shalom James,
Marco #6 is not #2 ..He's simply taking the piss out of #2 big time. No tienes que preoccuparte con este idiota #2
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16. sounds like yet another spy feeding off poor people
what a shame that iraqi's would even work with him.
israel clearly was behind the american invasion of iraq.
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17. an opinion from baghdad
Ok this article is exaggerated
commenter numero 1. you statement sounds very prejudice, leave religion out, its not their islamic nature as much as it is politics, remember that Arab states had only a short pace of experiencing real democracy during the era when most Arab states were ruled by Monarchs, and then its all dictatorships and I disagree with the article there are negative sentiments in Arab states against Israel and Jews and all these false misconceptions and they are based on what the government drums into people's heads through the media and schools etc, and yes there are people that don't care about religion and politics and Israel being a democracy and you had a chance to establish a state based on western style democracy but you still have fanatics who live in the dark ages.
Israel has not always used the right approach when it comes to seeking peace, now back to commentator number 7. are you suggesting that with human beings there is no formula to follow? does this include you as well or do you regard your self a superior race? please people you sound as bad as any ignorant illiterate person out there and you are no different when you should be, because you have had a better opportunity and a country that established democracy from day 1 and you had 60 years to live within an environment that did not inflict opinions or forced you to think in a certain way or die.
I come from a privileged family yes that is true and I was educated in International Schools and lived all over the world, so the word Israel or jewish does not ring the same tone as it does with other Middle Easterners who did not have the same opportunities, so I was raised and educated to believe that Israel is a nation and a member of the United Nations and has the right to exist while with others who instead of hearing the word Israel they hear in the Arab states press '' The Zionist entity'' etc and all that nonsense and if they uttered the word Israel , they would lose their lives and face suppression and oppression and the intelligence would come looking for them so how do you expect them to grow up believing in peace when all they saw was war , sadness, and a government that robbed them of what you take for granted, shame on you all, I thought you were supposed to be better educated and open minded, but you are not different from all the Middle Eastern Arab states citizens in your line of ignorant thought, the only difference is that you take democracy and freedom for granted while others don't have it. and yes we are supposed to have democracy in Iraq now, but democracy is not some program that you download and install, its a way of life and its essence lies in accepting being different and voicing ones opinions in a civil manner and believing in live and let live.
yes the article is exaggerated because I had a one year experience in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs as student aspiring to become a diplomat and Israel is viewed in a negative manner and the only way to change that is through education and through commuting and it will take time, first we have to solve our own conflicts we are on the roads of either uniting as one state or a three state solution, don't expect people in Iraq to think about establishing peace with Israel when we don't have internal peace within our borders and all our neighbors are viewed as enemies by most Iraqis not by me, I judge people individually I dont care about your race, color or creed, I myself come from a family of settlers who have come from Greece and Georgia, converted to Islam and stayed here, my mothers family converted from Judaism to Islam so that they could stay and not lose their properties and land. please be objective and open minded when making statements , because dum statements degrade you and they don't boost your position nor do they make you superior to any one.
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18. To NIMROD,Baghdad A reply
Your life’s story shows us ample views regarding your antecedents.
Interesting though the whole response is:The FACT your mother had to convert to Islam gives us here the crux of the mater.She did so,to enable her and family to survive in that region, for otherwise all of you would have been living as “dhimies”understandable to a degree.
We have hundreds Jews who fled those Arab countries with only what they had on their backs, leaving all their properties/valuables behind too.
Until Israel rescued them to live in a Democratic country.Unlike your mother they did not bow down low by converting. And that is the part I disapprove of..
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19. To Mark, Lodz @15
Shabat Shalom to you friend.
Good to see you with us here.(did not see your reply before sorry)
Let’s forget that so-called Marco who’s posts are simply ridiculous not to be taken seriously anyway.He is here for the fun of it without contributing anything worthy.Just one of the detritus we encounter constantly.
He called himself “puto”? my, oh my. Perhaps he is the son of a “puta”?
Wouldn’t surprise me.The less said the better I suppose eh?
And no,I am not preoccupied with that bofoon.
Mark I hope all is well over yonder in Poland???
Best regards
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20. They didnt have tahina?
He makes it sound as if the tahina is "israeli" when we all know the tahina like the hommos and everything else you know is arabic yet renamed israeli. What a joke And if he really believes they were so pro-israel there then why was he afraid to show his identity card and why did they claim they could never have imagined how nice israelis are if they are pro-israel? and how can he be originally from Bat-Yam when he/his family were immigrants to Palestine which was renamed israel in 1948. Nobody is originally from Bat yam as it is a new settlement in Palestine.
And the most interesting part is how he pretends to be so humane by feeling bad for their electricity problems, poverty etc when Gaza is suffering from the same things -.by the hands of the zionist state, yes zionist state.
So much propaganda in one article - im impressed.
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21. To Nimrod
If you really believe israel is a nation then why do they all look diffirent? meaning a russian jew looks like a russian christian, an ethiopian jew looks like an ethiopian christian, the tunisian jew looks like the turnisian muslim, the polish jew looks like the polish catholic etc. Ill tell you why, cuz they arent a nation, they are immigrants from all over the world that came to Palestine, their terror organisations such as stern, irgun, hagana comitted massacres on the native Palestinians and expelled about 70% of them from their homes in 1948. If you are a nation then you dont need to do that, nor do you need to learn the hebrew alphabet from scratch when you are 50 years old since had you really been an israeli then you would have already known it yet every jewish immigrant that comes to Palestine learn it from scratch, the european jews that migrated to Palestine didnt know it nor did those that are coming today know it, they all learned/learn it from scratch because hebrew was never their first language nor is there such a thing as an israeli culture or israeli cuisine (unless you count the food stolen from other people).
And the negative opinion among arabs regarding israel has nothing to do with governments, it has to do with the fact that israel stole arabic land and established a state there by kicking out its people and of course for bombing and creating divisions and problems while pretending to be the peaceful victim.
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22. To Muhamed Tablusi who has no idea.And just makes up stories
I will just take your last paragraph and inform you on your disproportionate reply on all our Jews.
We all come from the same MELTING POT.Same DNA..be it from Russia,the Middle East S.America or anywhere else.
Lets not confuse the issue on the continuous nonsense of "land stealing" I WILL TELL YOU ONCE AND FOR ALL:No such people as Arab Palestians EVER existed.What is more nor did Lebanon.It was artificially created like Jordan.
The first by the French,the latter by the Brits.
The pals already have a state where 70% of the population are Palestinians. Once you accept this the better for al.
Time is coming when the so-called Palestinians( a misnomer if there ever was one)as arafat(the rat MHSRIH) decided on the new nomenclature in 1963.
But i think it is superfluous to repeat it ad-nauseum to doggedly wrong assumptions to people like you.
Like going round the mulbery bush.
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23. Reality Check ...Wish you would put the name.
Of said person you were addressing your response.
Who was it that mentioned "tahina".
I have alrready explained this on another forum(i think).
The said dishes begin with Greece,Balkans right down to the ME which now includes Israel.
Pointless to talk about such an unimportant subject when there are more urgent ones to discuss.
Now be a good fellow(or lady),and put a NAME of responder.You did not even put a number.
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24. Hey James, who are u trying to fool?
James get out of la-la land and join reality, a russian jew looks exactly like a russian christian, an ethiopian jew looks exactly like an ethipian christian, an iraqi jew looks like an iraqi Muslim, an latino jew looks exactly like a latino christian etc. Its as simple as that, any similarity between the DNA is irrelevent as you will find the same similarity between diffirent people around the world. The reason why 70 % of the people in Jordan are Palestinians is because they were expelled from Palestine in 1948 and 1967 and ended up there as well as in Lebanon, Syria. None of those Palestinians in Jordan or elsewhere are from a city/village in present day jordan, they are from cities/villages from Palestine (that you refer to as israel). Tryin hence why there are Palestinian last names such as Nabulsi, Ghazzawi, Al Haifawi, Al sakhnani, Al ramlawi, Al karmi, Al safadi etc which in english means: The Nabulsian, The Gazan, The Haifan, the person from Karmel, the person from Ramla, the person from safad etc. To sell the idea that there is no Palestinian people is so stupid and it will never work on me as we arabs have diffirent accents so when you claim there was never any Palestinian people then why do Palestinians have their own accent, local foods, songs, brodery etc? Yes arafat was egyptian since his grandfather was egyptian but his mother and grandmother from his father side were Palestinian. Even if he was from mongolia, it prooves nothing as he is not the Palestinian people. There have been a Palestinian president in elsalvador (or some other latin country, cant remember which) does that mean that those people from that country dont exist cuz there president was Palestinian? This logic you use is crazy. By the way, not a single one of your presidents have had a family history in Palestine, all of them have been european immigrants. Sometimes i get shocked by your (the zionist) ignorance.. or is it deliberate lies that you are hoping to fool people with? Either way, shame on your for supporting zionism that stole the land and kicked out its natives and without any shame you try to claim there is no Palestinian people. What a fool. Had the zionists stolen Lebanon or some other country, then they would be saying the same thing about us/them and ignorants like you would be repeating those lies. Pathetic. But then again, what do you expect from someone that steals the hummus and other arabic dishes and ingridients and then call it israeli cuz they found the natives of the land they stole eating it! Even the Palestinian rural sallad which is a well known Palestinian sallad you call "israeli sallad". What will you steal next i wonder?
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25. Moreover james
Even if the people didnt call themselves Lebanese, Palestinians etc those that do call themselves that are the same people that come from those countries called Lebanon, Palestine etc, the people didnt change and once statehood became the norm, then it was only natural for the arab people living in Palestine to be Palestinian, and the arab people living in Lebanon to be Lebanese etc. We are not immigrants, we have been here for thousands of years, have our accents depending on which city/village we hail from etc, our cities have their own specialties they are known for etc, we have culture and a real history/identity whereas you came from all around the world and created chaos and turned everything upside down and made the truth in to a lie and vice versa. But where were "the israeli people" to defend their beloved "eretz israel" when the crusaders attacked? Nowhere to be seen. Where was the "israeli cuisine"? where was the "israeli identity" among the european jews as well as others? Zionism is a secular movement that had nothing to do with judaism, they only exploited judaism to get as they wanted. Israel is a modern colonial state in the middle east operating in the name of judaism and the ancient israelites so stop kidding yourself and dont u for a second believe you can fool me with your nonsence.
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26. to number 21 and No. 18
Israel is a nation, history proves that even in all ''holy books'' Koran included it mentions beni Israel, the people of Israel, just because they were dispersed all over does not make them just settlers, they have a Middle Eastern culture blended with other cultures due to the fact that their ancestors lives all over, Judaism is the oldest Abrahamic faith, and Hebrew goes way back.
They have the right to exist, they were mistreated by almost everyone throughout history and if you watch videos and documentaries of concentration camps in Germany , and other places you will see the atrocities committed against them and others, no human being deserves such degradation.
The Arab - Israeli conflict is complicated and had Arabs accepted them, they would have blended in, the Palestinians would have been Israeli citizens, Arabic a second language and all would be happy, come on in our societies the media, education, even places of prayers do nothing but bitch about jews and make up false stories about how mean and evil and cruel Jews are, like a story that most retards believe where it says that Jews drink the blood of gentiles during some Jewish religious occasion, this is just plain nonsense they are not monsters, listen I have lived in various places, including New York , went to schools where I had so many Jewish teachers and they were nice and sweet to me, I can imagine being Jewish in an Arab state, they would be mistreated, fine their government isnt so innocent but which government is? don't our governments kill and imprison people for trivial reasons and for speaking against the government or criticizing it you could be hanged in an Arab state or the intelligence services would take you beyond hell, come on admit it, Israelis built a nation from scratch and they did a good job, let's become like them and then bitch about them when we enjoy the same level of freedom, in Israeli courts they give you your rights if you can prove them, yes there are Israelis that are narrow minded and some are prejudice but that is everywhere, in my country we live in isolated neighborhoods where a shiite is scared to come to our parts and we are scared to wander in an all shiite neighborhood and so is Lebanon, you are divided between sunnis, shiites, and Christians / Druze etc, so we have all these partition walls, now if Israelis put them up, we says it's apartheid but when we do them then its to calm the violence and sectarian violence, lets not be hypocrites now and move on, people are people and Israel is in the Middle East and accept it, deal with it and find what we have in common rather than differences and attempting to wipe them out is silly, sad and not real, find a solution for the palestinians if they can integrate themselves in israeli society i am sure they will accept them as citizens but if they choose to fight then they wont have much but the Gaza Strip and they are not doing such a great job running that.
as for the food, its all shared, and borrowed all Mediterranean nations have similar food, so its not stolen, if we will start saying this is stolen then Baklava, Dolma etc is Turkish in origin and we borrowed it, Biriani is Indian, Fasanjun is Persian and what else do we have left? Kebab, Tikka and Humus and Baba Ghanouj that you can find in Cyprus, Greece, Turkey and various places even in Serbia, hello these nations including our states were under ottoman rule for over 500 years.
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27. continued
I rest my case, as for Kate well my grandparents had their reasons, they lived a good life, my great grandfather was a member of parliament during the Monarchy and they owned and still own land in Baghdad and Basra and they didnt want to give it all up to move to a state that was just starting and its fate undetermined, in any case I come from a very secular family and I dont really practice any religion although I am supposed to be a sunni moslem, I borrow ideas from Bhuddism, The Kabballa, Islam , I believe in spirituality and the law of attraction, love others and wish them well and you will be a happy person and honestly I dont believe much in religion etc, I find the meditation aspect in all of them useful and thats about it. If Im in New York I would go to church and light a candle or a synagogue etc any place of worship, be it Hindu, Bhuddist etc,
with Islam you have to enter a mosque and pray in a certain manner which I think should be reformed, and then only I would go, well having said that I hope I didn't bore you all and best wishes to you all. and Kate I respect your opinion but my mum's family was not the only one who converted many did and people make their own choices in life and we have to respect that, it's not bowing down does it really matter which manner one prays or if they pray at all? my grandparents were atheists anyway so it didn't matter.
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28. Iraqi child needs help
Today I received an email from one of my Iraqi friends where he writes that the condition of the boy deteriorates. If somebody can provide any assistance, it would be good. For example, how can I contact Rav Firer? The boy's family has no money to pay for the treatment and his father works as a member of Personal Security Detachment for the USAID team in Baghdad. I asked for help from the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, USA, but they want 30 thousand dollars just as a deposit. How about showing that we, Israelis, can do better?
Alex Shapiro
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29. "Nice Israeli" ?
I'm sorry to disappoint you, RJBH, but I'm not a PR person for the Left nor the follower of "Peace Now" movement. I believe that we, Israelis, should have unity and respect to each other, regardless of our political views. Besides, after spending for almost 2 years in Iraq and talking 'heart to heart' with representatives from many Arab countries, I think that this left/right thing does not apply to Israel: you're either are down-to-earth realist or naive idealist, not counting, of course, the extremists from both sides. So, with all due respect to all "yafei nefesh" that is, naive idealists (not counting self-haters) I consider myself being a realist.
| Alex Shapiro , |
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