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Palestinian killed by IDF fire; Hamas: He was bird hunting
Ali Waked
Published: 13.11.09, 13:52
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1. They should have been told by their parents: when you play
Anat ,   Hadera   (11.13.09)
with fire you may get hurt!
2. Bird hunting with a suicide belt....
Elma Jabril Fudd   (11.13.09)
3. Where's the bomb then? there wasnt one was there?
Caroline ,   TA   (11.13.09)
if there was they would have shown it. again the IDF shows it has no moral and no idea
4. Bird Hunting?????
Vicky ,   Ashkelon Israel   (11.13.09)
at aged 18 surely he is not that stupid to go bird hunting with friends at such a place. The Hamas excuses are getting more and more ridiculous!
5. To: No. 3
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.13.09)
Shut your stupid trap. There is nothing innocent (bird hunting? Oh that would explain the weapons, wouldn't it?) about people playing along a hostile border. Get a grip. Acquire some knowledge. Until then, spare us your uninformed and useless commentary.
6. Hamas: he was hunting, forgot to say he was hunting Jews
m   (11.13.09)
7. Ignorant posters
Robert Carey ,   Brisbane, Australia   (11.13.09)
#5 You really are an unfortunate individual. Your ignorant and abusive invective puts you on a par with Ahmadinejad.
8. gazans
marcel   (11.13.09)
gazans are liars as are west bankers. Like they won the gaza war or hezbollah war. This is a built up trait of denial and lying.Goldstone got taken by hamas lies. And now Erdogan with his arabic wife wails at death after his people killed 1 million armenians. Regardless of haber's desperate pleas for peace, nazis should have taught israelis to keep your guns ready and don't give them up for obama promises. Otherwise death and ovens will follow. If jews had the guns in world war ll that they now possess, the holocaust would not have happened. In the meantime, haber should go on antidepressants as he is sucicidal.
9. Mofaz is right - talk to Hamas!
Dalia Vardi ,   Haofa, Israel   (11.13.09)
Then it might have been possible to avoid this senseless killing
10. Excuses
Dudi ,   Rockville, MD   (11.13.09)
Palestinian walks with a bomb onto a crowded bus: Science experiment?
11. Another senseless killing and a young life snuffed out
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor   (11.13.09)
When I lived and worked in Gaza it was quite normal to see boys hunting birds with air rifles using lead pellets. Since the end of Cast Lead in January several farmers have been killed because Israel declared a 300-400 meter buffer zone inside Gaza, which can be broadened at will by any Israeli soldier, making it very dangerous to work the land here or do things like bird hunting. It is more than likely that soldiers just opened fire. No questions will be asked. They can shoot and kill with impunity, even when they never were under any threat. What bravery! By the way, poster 5, Sarah B, distinguishes herself by the breath taking stupidity of her post. And it is not the first time.
12. Yeah right ! BIRD WATCH MY FOOT !
benjamin ,   singapore   (11.13.09)
These are TERRORIST RECRUITS ! I would have shot all dead myself ! ben singapore
13. He was taught to love terrorism and death. He got both.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.13.09)
14. Terminal stupid
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (11.13.09)
A disease that affects lots of Arabs. Most just chant 'Death to' somebody. Others carry weapons to a border where their leadership has invaded many times in their attempts at genocide. The parents can complain to Hamas if he was hunting. They caused his death by their actions.
15. 5# Sarah has most ignorants you result to name calling
Caroline ,   TA   (11.13.09)
it only shows who you are and for that i thank you.
16. 5# Sarah what a childish reply not surprising thought
Caroline ,   TA   (11.13.09)
I guess ignorance its hard to overcome.
17. #7 - why? She makes perfect sense.
Eyal ,   usa   (11.13.09)
It is you that is ignorant, but yet again, you are a Jew hater, probably an Arab or a Palestinian. That explains the hostility you have for Sarah. Bird hunting..ye right.
18. #9 - Sensless killings?
Eyal ,   USA   (11.13.09)
Nothing is sensless killing coming from Gaza. heheh hahaha :)
19. yes dalia # 9
rashid ,   palistinian   (11.13.09)
it is good idea to talk to us yaanee hamas why then dont you come down here and talk to us i will be more then happy to talk to you believe me
20. to sarah no.5
peace lover ,   world   (11.13.09)
will stop your hatred and go somewhere where people like you will hear what you say. enough and wake up get a life israel is a country of occupation. hope that you read this from your home in New york israel lover
21. bird hunting
dani   (11.13.09)
those sticks of dynamite were meant to frighten the birds out of their hiding places...
22. To: No. 15
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.13.09)
Fair's fair. If you are going to spout idiotic drivel, I reserve the right to point that out to people who are as surprisingly ill-informed about the true nature of the conflict as are you. Of course, they have an excuse. They for the most part do not live in Israel. Unless TA stands for something I do not know, you live in Israel. You have no excuse for your abject stupidity. Sorry. That's not name-calling. That's just the truth.
23. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.13.09)
Please. Look up "ignorance" in the dictionary. There's a picture of you right there.
24. To: No. 7
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (11.13.09)
Really? As if anything you say could possibly do anything but make me laugh. You have far more in common with Ahmedinejad than I do. You, after all, are a Holocaust-denying, Jew- and Israel-hating ignoramus and supporter of some of the most vile Palestinian terrorists the world has ever known. Bird hunting, indeed! More like snipe hunting -- because of excessive poaching by Gazans, and due to the lack of water, nearly all avian species have altered their migratory routes. Look it up. The Gazans in particular have hunted the red knot (a shorebird) into extinction. Most of the birds constitute protected species, anyway. Despicable of the Palestinians to try and kill them all, don't you think?
25. :: Caroline - #3
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (11.13.09)
A typical response from Sarah B and other rabid posters who can’t stand to see any valid comments from posters who they don’t agree with. Caroline you asked the very valid question “Where's the bomb then?”. Obviously there wasn’t one; the IDF enacted its ‘Shoot to Kill’ policy. That is the IDF used deadly force without any viable evidence that they themselves were in mortal danger. What Sarah B and other would not know is that children in Gaza and the Palestinian WB after go hunting for songbirds so they can sell them at the local markets. They also hunt and kill birds for sport. What Sarah B and other would not know is that there has been several cases of Palestinian children being shot and killed by the IDF while they have been hunting songbirds. The following is a list of children killed by the IDF while hunting birds: November 2003 Mahmoud Muhammad Ali al-Kayed, 11, of Gaza City, killed by IDF gunfire to his chest and abdomen while hunting birds with his father near the Gaza perimeter fence. January 2004 Muhsin Haidar Muhammad al-Daour, 11, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF gunfire to his head while hunting birds near the Gaza perimeter fence. June 2005 Ihab Salah Salim al-Nabahin, 17, of Bureij refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF gunfire while bird hunting near the the Netzarim settlement. June 2007 Hijazi Muhammad Abdul-Aziz Rzaiqat, 17, of Taffouh, near Hebron, killed by IDF gunfire to his chest, abdomen, left shoulder and right thigh while hunting birds with a gun. In all cases the IDF were in mortal danger yet they used deadly force. Caroline it is a pity that the likes of Sarah B are more concerned about berating posters for asking a valid question rather than condemning the unnecessary use of deadly force on children by the IDF. Let alone expressing empathy or sympathy for the family of Muhammad Wad.
26. Another "Palestinian sustained moderate injuries
Chris Craft ,   NYC USA   (11.13.09)
during the incident, which took place south of Gaza City, adjacent to Kibbutz Be'eri. The wounded Palestinian was evacuated to Ashkelon's Barzilai Medical Center" Let's hope he survives these "moderate injuries" and that he is returned alive with all his organs.
27. thank you,no.3
jo anne turner ,   the woodlands TX USA   (11.13.09)
sarah.. i dont care if u are or.. not ..a paid propganidist(as some claim) u are a voice of reason and information on this talkback forum. So many times u have given me the information i need 2 make my stand for Israel on FACTS and not just on EMOTION.there are others here who have clarified the FACTS and reality of the what and why of the things that I srael does..thank u also.. and i have 2 admit i do get a good laugh out of much of the reasoning of many of those who blast Israel here...thanks for the laughs go 2 u 2>>LMAO
28. #26 - who cares, he is just 1 Arab
Eyal ,   USA   (11.13.09)
It's funny how you care about one Arab..heheheh hahahah. If you really cared about your Arab brothers, then why don't you tell Hamas to free Gilad Schalit for 1 Arab prisoner in Israel? Instead you want 500, 750, 1000 for 1 Israeli soldier. It shows how much your Arab brothers are really worth, don't you think? It's like exchanging 1 dollar for Mexican Peso's :). If you Arabs cared so much about your brothers, you would exchange 1 for 1. That is why a Jewish life is worth thousand of Palestinians.
29. I agree with 5
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (11.13.09)
This girl Caroline is an idiot and should shut her trap.
30. BIRD HUNTING??? GIVE HAMAS THE BIRD!
stude ham   (11.13.09)
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