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Religious services minister wants Sephardic Jewry center    Kobi Nahshoni
1. more public money to be spent on these lunatics
Oh yes sorry i forgot they are victims right, just like 7 shas MKs convicted of criminal offences its because they were Sephardic ! Yeh Right
Avi ,   Israel   (11.23.09)
2. MANY THOUGH WE WERE ALL GONE...YOU PLAYED
COLOR BAR. LOOK HERE WE ARE , IN SINGAPORE ; LOOK AT OUR DIVERSITY UNDER THE NATION SINGAPORE : WE HAVE A PLACE IN EQUALITY :-)
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.24.09)
3. LOOK AT THE MULTI- CULTURAL DIVERSITY OF MY SINGAPORE
Mizrahi Jews or Mizrahim, (Hebrew: מזרחים, Modern Mizraḥim Iberian Mizrāḥîm ; "Easterners"), also referred to as Edot HaMizrach (Communities of the East) are Jews descended from the Jewish communities of the Middle East, Central Asia and the Caucasus. The term Mizrahi is used in Israel in the language of politics, media and some social scientists for Jews from the Arab world and adjacent, primarily Muslim-majority countries. This includes Iraqi Jews, Syrian Jews, Lebanese Jews, Yemenite Jews, Persian Jews, Afghan Jews, Bukharian Jews, Maghrebi Jews, Berber Jews, Kurdish Jews, Mountain Jews, Georgian Jews and Ethiopian Jews. It would also include the Jews of India, Jews of Pakistan, and Baghdadi Jews who settled in the last few centuries (in contrast to Jewish communities of the Indian subcontinent established millennia earlier). BENJAMIN :-) SINGAPORE
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.24.09)
4. @ 1
WHY YOU HATE US SEPAHARDIC...WE DONT NEED YOU MONEY...WE HAVE OUR MONEY....SINGAPORE SEPHARDIC/ MIZRAHI JEWERY IS SELF -SUFFECIENT ! WE ARE LIVING IN A GOLDEN AGE WITH THE PEOPEL ACTION PARTY ( PAP) PLEASE STOP DFEAMING US. BENJAMIN SINGAPORE
(11.24.09)
5. Do it yourself
Why does the Center need to operate as a government body? If Sephardim or Askhenazi Jews want special centers or museums, they need to fund-raise from those interested in such an institution and support it. By the way my mother is Sephardic and my father Askhenazi. The government should support only projects benefiting the entire Jewish people.
david   (11.24.09)
6. #4 Benjamin in Singapore
Obviously being in Singapore you are clueless as the activities of Sh-ass . A party that claims to represent the Sephardic people is just a front to their criminal activites, with an impressive number of prison inmates, 7 Sha-ss MKs so far, speaks for its self. Just another scheme of theirs to milk more money off the state for their parasites who contribute nothing. FYI i am married to a Lybian religious Jew.
Avi ,   Israel   (11.24.09)
7. Sepahrdic AND Mizrachi?!
We Sephardic Jews have NOTHING in common with Mizrachi communities, certainly not anymore than the Ashkenazi communities do. Sephardic Jews (those originally from Iberia) have their own centres in the US and elsewhere where we try to preserve our Ladino language, music, and other cultural aspects. "Mizrachi" Jews are indigenous Jews who have lived in North Africa and the Arab Mideast. And quite frankly, they are NOT a monolithic group either! Egyptian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Yeminte, Morrocan etc Jews have VERY little in common with each other, they even speak different languages and/or dialects. If we are to be fair, then each country/region should be given their own cultural heritage centre! LAST COMMENT: Start teaching Yiddish, Ladino, Bukharian, Judeo Berber, Judaeo Tat, Karaimi. Judeo -Arabic, and Judeo-Persian, etc in Israeli schools if you want to preserve our heritages!
nadav ,   tel aviv   (11.24.09)
8. IN RESPONS E TO THE EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED :-)
WELL LISTEN i AM AN ORTODOX JEW OF SINGAPORE JEWERY. i JUST SPEAK THE TRUTH ABOUT CERTAIN PRACTICES THAT IS OVERREACHING AMONG OUR JEWS. I AM AN ORTHODOX JEW - BUT I AM DIFFRENT IN MY WAYS. I DRIVE TYHE RABBIS MAD,BUT I AM STILL THE BEST AND THE BELOVED. I LIKE TO TREAT ALL FAIRLY. I KNOW THE PAINS OF SEGREGATION AN SPECIAL TREATMENT. WELL MY BEST FRIEND AARE ALL CHINESS OF MALAYSIA, SINGAPORE ,HONG KONG AND CHINA. MY BEST FRIEND ARE ALSO THE ARABS OF THE ME. i GO FOR TEA AT TEH ARAB STREET IN SINGAPORE. INFACT WE JAM THERE WHEN TIME PERMITS. HERE WE JEWS MIX WITH EVERYBODY. WE RESPECT EACH OTHERS BOUNDERIES. WE CELEBRATE OUT DIFFRENCES IN TERMS OF OUT ORIGEN AND RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. THERE IS NO REASON TO QUAREL OVER ISSUES WHICH ARE TRUP UP OUT OF SELF- CENTERDNESS;) WELL FOR ME BOTH SINGAPORE AN ISRAEL IS IMPORTANT ! ISRAEL IS MY MOTHER, SINGAPORE IS MY FATHER. I STAY WITH MY FATHER, I AM BUILD BY MR FATHER, I AM A FREE MAN WITH MY FATHER. THATS IT ! I NOTHING MORE TOP SAY. YOU CAN HATE ME FOR BEING A SINAGPOER SHEPARDIC jEW- OF THE BAGDADI ORIGIN. MY EYE IS WITCH HAZEL, MY HAIR BROWN, I AM TAN, WELL I HAVE THE PRIVILEDGE OF BEING MYSELF IN SINGAPORE, THE WAY I AM. iN MALAYSIA THEY MALAYSIAN ALMOST DISTROYED ME. i AM RESCUED BY THE SINGAPOREAN. tHE SINGAPOREN GAVE ME A HOME, A PLACE TO STUDY, THEY NEVER TREATED ME WITH INDIFFRENCE LIKE THE JEW OF ISRAEL. i TRY TO BE A GOOD JEW. MY FRIEND ALL KNOW MY JEWISHNESS. INFACT THEY GO ALL OUT TO GET ME THE PROPER FOOD EVEN. LOOK THE SINGAPOREAN ARE A VERY KIND NATION. yOU WILL ONLY KNOW IF YOU STAY WITH US. WE JEWS HERE VENTURE IN EVERY ASPECTS OF LIFE AN LIVING, BUSINESS, JVS, NAME IT . INFACT THE SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE HERE IN SINGAPORE PRESERVES THE HERITAGE OF SHEPARDIC JEWS. OUR DR, vIVIEN BALAKSIHNAN IS AMONG THE MANY WHO FOSTER THE FRENDSHIP OR ALL- HE SIS THE MINISTER OF SPORT- CULTURE. DR NG ING HAN OUR EDUCATION MINISTER IS ACALSSY GENTLEMAN, WHO MEETS PEOPEL AT TEH GRASS ROOT LEVEL. tHER HAVE BEEN CASES WHERE HE HAS GON IN STRAIGHT TO PROTECT AN D RESOLVE PROBLEM FOR THE SHEPARDIC JEWS. WE HAVE OUR OWN SCHOOL- JESIH EDUCATION, W ERUN THESE SCHOOL WITHOUT ANY DISTURBANCE, WHAT MORE DO YOU WNAT. YOU ASK THE PAP BUT BE RESONABLE AND FAIR HAVE A LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING, BE TOLERANT, BE SIMPLE, THERE IS FAIRNESS, EQUITY, DIGNITY, LOVE, COMPPASSION, CHARACTER, MERCY, SEVERITY AND PASSION AMONG THEPAP OF SINGAPORE ! BEN SINGAPORE BEN SINGAPORE
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.24.09)
9. #6 avi, Israel
AVI, you are correct, i agree that i am clueless of the Shas:-) Exactly, the dol system made them lazy, greedy and corrupted.They use religion as their platform to suck the blood of the poor to their marrows. They will never stop milking money UNTIL we prosecute them ! I am married to a morrocan religious jew, well i married the correct women :-) but I am not religious like her :-0 dear Avi, see you around :) I am getting many emails now. I amust read and respond :-) Jews from all around the world :-) benjamin singapore
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.24.09)
10. Sephardim have a magnificent heritage
I think it is a great idea. Sephardim have contributed enormously to Jewish culture and religion.
Yehudi ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.24.09)
11. Sephardi Centre
Good idea. But why don't the Sephardim build it.? Why ask Ashkenazim to build it, did the Sephardim build an Ashkenazi centre? Nice to have others do your work, like the haridim make us do.
Alfi   (11.24.09)
12. stupid Israel should have uni Israeli
customes and leave all that stupid spharad thing behind. other wise keep complaining.
ghostq   (11.24.09)
13. to #6 what about ashkenaz religious jews
they take your money as well only they r not sttpid to get caught.
ghostq   (11.24.09)
14. USE THE MONEY TO BUILD SCHOOLS FOR GIRLS
Instead of pushing them into the Ashkenazi educational system " Beis Iaacov", only to complain later that Ashkenazim "took ever" Jewish Religion. Bakasha, build schools for your girls teach them all the Sephardi Heritage you so much love.
(11.24.09)
15. Sephardi contribution to the world
There are many Jews of Sepharadi origin who have contributed to the world and to the different countries wherre they lived , not only to Judaism . The Crescas Family , doctors and scientists . Louis de Torres , who was Ch. Colombus's traductor , Avraham Zacuto , astronomist , Benjamin Disraeli , the film actor Peter Sellers , the painters Amedeo Modigliani and Camille Pissaro , Pierre Mendes France , Sir Joshua Hassan [ prime minister of Gibraltar ], the litterature Nobel prize winner Elias Canetti , the Touro family , Emma Lazarus . To name only some of them .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.24.09)
16. Whingers
After sixty years of trying to exterminate every last memory of Sefardi Judaism, they want to erect a memorial to it. If Sefardi Jews want to preserve their culture, they know how to do it: follow the Ashkenazi model and invest in yeshivot and girls' schools that teach their traditions. They do not need the state to do that; they can afford it themselves.
observer   (11.24.09)
17. Nadav
Five years ago a Center for Ladino Studies was established in Bar Ilan University. In its first year the expectations were to enroll 20 students. 200 enrolled. Today the Center boast a Professor and 5 PhD's with hundreds of students.
James ,   Herzeliya   (11.24.09)
18. Sepharadi or Ashkenazi
Reading the comment on Ynet and doing some investigating of my own, I realized that actually many sub division of Jewish communities around the world The World Ashkenazim/ or Ashkenaz means Germany and umbrella all jews of Khazari decent, Poland Russia Germany etc The misleading term Sephardim include all Mizrachi Jews-very incorrect middle eastern jews have very little to do with Spanish jewry customs Yemeni Jews like myself do not belong to sephardi at all it was an Ashkenazi invention, Yemeni Jews have customs dated to the first temple, and our siddur called the Tichlal. and this is just the tip of iceberg It was just a khazari ploy: Are you black or white I personally prefer Chabad style- that style practice for all Israel I will continue to eat humus and rice in passover Yemeni Jew.
Zuri ,   Sydney Australia   (11.25.09)
19. Sephardic Jewish Center
The Separdic Jews have added many & varied ideas & works to Judaism. But, why should the Government pay for this center. Perhaps there should be centers for all Jewish factions. In my Utopian dream these centers would be to remember the past when we all become Israeli Jews not Ashkenazi or Sephardi Jews.
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot, Israel   (11.25.09)
20. Shas lowlifes who preach ignorance are not connected ...
to the great Sephardim of the past.
Reb L. Yell ,   Carmiel, Israel   (11.25.09)
21. OK
YOU WILL GET - GRANTED :-0~ A MEMORIAL AN ARCHIVE A RESEARCH INSTITUTE ON cONDOTION TEH COUNCIL MUST BE STRICTLY SEPHARDIC, NO XTIANS/REFORMS....AGREE ?
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.25.09)
22. 18 , Zuri , Sydney
.....all Jews of Khazari descent , Poland , Russia......You wrote . That all the East European Jews descent from the Khazars is an argument that is used by antisemites [ wikipedia ] It seems that this "descent" is far from being true . My father came from Poland , but some 20 generations ago my ancestors came from Turkey [ that's sure ] , maybe even after they fled the Spanish inquisition [ that's a supposition ] .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.25.09)
23. sephardim
recently discovering the true identity of my ancesters,that of being sephardic jews. i cant believe ive been in the dark for all these years. cypto jews indeed .i feel that that the sephardim have truly been forgotten. i feel that a genuine historical anatomy of jewish exile has yet to be written.
orlando nobre ,   new york, usa   (11.25.09)
24. 18 yemenite
Nice you find the time to insult eveyone else except yemeni. Yemen's Jews were cursed for declining resettling Erets Israel during secong temple period, and have no part in HAnnuka Happenings and any of what evolved to Jewish Law and People ever after First Temple. You live and think more according to Islam than to torat Hashem as Sphardim and Ashkenazim do. About 180 strong Khazars converted to Judaism and joined the approximately 4 million Ashkenazi Jews of the time Get a life and a heart
European Sphardic   (11.25.09)
25. new found jew
i shall tell their tales and travails;the myriad hardships they bear; weary, they stumble and perish from onerous burdens unshared.... there is no wisdom nor advice; no one to correct nor direct. awaken the true spirit and identity of the portuguese. for we are living in a state of denial.
orlando nobre ,   new york, usa   (11.25.09)
26. 24. European Sepharadic
Some people may find it offensive, but Jews come from all over the world, some of the information we are getting from researchers and historians can be completely incorrect, However, just because I am not either Sephardi or Ashkenazi and I am of different it does not mean that I wish to anger anyone or offend anyone, this is the truth the majority of khazars are our ancestors of our nation and if you want to ignore it, or don't want to teach it that is your prerogative If you wish to bullshit me about Jewish law and only 180 Khazars converted to Judaism and I sound like a Muslim, then this why Khazar history is not taught to Jews and Israelis JUST BECAUSE OF THAT because it is a threat to our unity. YOU JUST CAN"T DEAL WITH THE FACTS
Zuri ,   Sydney Australia   (11.28.09)
27. Zuri 26
Give me the source of your information regarding the Khazars being our ancestors . Look at wikipedia for confirmation of what i said
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.28.09)
28. Source regarding Khazar
I came to it by complete accident some Ashkenazi woman came to me and ask me where I am from, when I have explained to her that I am a Yemeni Jew fro Israel, she said "I do not look like a Jew", The next day I started my own little investigation to find out when was the first Ashkenazi Synagogue in Europe. Without being bias I found that first known synagogue in Germany (German= mean Ashkenaz) was establish around approximately the 11th century. which led me to a nation that I have discovered on the net, called the Khazars whom converted to Judaism after their king Bulan have adopted jewish faith this just the tip of the iceberg as many articales and researchers leads to the Khazar as our ancestors their kingdom vanished and surprisingly NOBODY talk about it NOBODY know about it However I have meet some Russian Jews that knows about the khazars but they reckon it is all stories I believe that is something unique that make this story to our people the Jews of today. How can we be blonde or with red hair and blue eyes. how can we have fair skin if we come from Israel Clearly Khazars originated from Khazaria which at one point were a great empire. After it's decline...Nobody want to know about what happened to them. But we really know It is worth while to read about it Very interesting read Charles The contribution of Ashkenazi Jews is probably the greatest without them we would not have Israel as we know it today Please do not be offended by it, it is worthwhile to search further on the internet Shalom
Zuri ,   Sydney Australia   (11.29.09)
29. Zuri , Look at wikipedia : Khazars
That's all .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.29.09)
30. Charles
Wikipedia, was my first source I found many other sources pointing out the Khazar. for a stronger argument, I have looked way beyond Wikipedia long time ago. Shalom
Zuri ,   Sydney Australia   (12.01.09)
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