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'Not every moron can be defense minister'
Ilana Curiel
Published: 21.11.09, 16:12
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1. AMIR PERETZ
Benjamin ,   SINGAPORE   (11.21.09)
i STILL CANT FORGET HIS COMMENT WHEN HE RESIGNED FOR GOOD....THAT THE QASSAMS WERE .... " POLITICAL LEG AND MILITARY LEG " ... I AM STILL SCRATCING MY HEAD OVER HIS COMMENT :-))))) MIOW MIOW MIOW wwwwwwwwww ; -)
2. ARENS IS RIGHT
(11.21.09)
3. Calling it how it is.
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (11.21.09)
Obviously the professor got it correct. Is Steinitz a minister of finance?Just look at our current government, half are dead wood the other half do all the work.The price of "Kavod" in Israel is very high, but seems that it brings some quiet to the coalition.A bit pathetic when you think about all the freeloaders.
4. peretz and ignorance
alexi   (11.21.09)
Ther is nothing implied. Arens meant peretz and olmert. The arrogance of peretz and olmert is incredible. Winograd said they both failed and basically should leave office. While they both had military exposuree, olmert go out of it, hated it, taught his sons to hate it and was afraid of it. So he offered syria golan, abbas basically all of west bank, pieces of israel which by the way should be a non starter and would cut israel in half with hamas firing rockets from 2 sides of the road.Peretz says there is quiet in the north. The bloody border is a powder keg with hezbollah refortifying dug in bunkers armed with putins antitank rockets, iranian ieds, and 40,000 rockets. What an ignoramus! Wjhen it comes to security, olmert and peretz are dumb as hell and were fish out of water.
5. ARENS & JONATHAN POLLARD .....
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.21.09)
ARENS FORGOT ABOUT JONATHAN POLLARD ! ABANDONED JONATHAN POLLARD !
6. Peretz nominated to fail by Olmert as a policy of attrition
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (11.21.09)
Olmert assigned Ministry of Defence position to Peretz intentionally When Peretz fails, His pary would fail therefore Olmert's party would gain votes, The same thing for Lieberman, Netenyahu assigned FM to Lieberman intentionaly, Netenyahu knows very well Lieberman was not fit for FM position as a policy of attrition against him Learn facts:Zionists eat each other
7. Morons in Knesset ,Morons Everywhere
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.21.09)
How is it that the morons remain seated in a position of power and leadership in Israel after their many failures ? Is it because the moron voters or the moronic political parties continue to serve up morons to lead Israel ? A nation of political morons are easily manipulated by outside forces to suicide the nation for a faux peace.
8. The author assumes I am a moron and will believe this BS
Adam ELiyahu   (11.21.09)
Israeli politicians, especially the left, assume that the average Israeli citizen has a memory span of ywo weeks. Peretz was an incompetent defense minister. I lived through it. Olmert's legacy is that of a petty thief who made it big. Peres is not a great politician. He never won an election. And the intifada that came before Oslo was a whole lot nicer than the solution that Peres and Rabin gave us. Don't insult my intelligence by trying to tell me otherwise.
9. Not every moron
Bentzy ,   Gush Etzion   (11.21.09)
Only a highly decorated Moron who runs away and stays in expensive hotels can serve as DM. Only a real special moron who looks like a cross between PeeWee Herman and Mr. Bean qualifies to serve as a DM Speaking of morons, only a moron like Olmert who was a journalist for the IDF magazine BaMahane. could appoint a brigade Ordnance officer for a Defense Minister
10. ATTRITION AND TERRORISM
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (11.21.09)
TERRORIST USE Repentance & SIN & MOTIVATION BY FEAR OF HELL PSYCHOLOGY IN BRAINWASHING TRAININGS ....THIS ATTRITION METHOD IS VERY VISIBLE IN EXTREMIST ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS SCHOOL IN GAZA BY HAMAS.
11. Don't need binoculars to see clearly
Ilan ,   Ariel   (11.21.09)
Peretz ran the Defense Ministry with the same skill and tact as the Histatdrut.
12. eliyahu correct
alexi   (11.21.09)
Eliyahu was correct. Halutz brought in gen kemplinski during the 2006 war to make some order. Sadly, he didn't do much. Since it was obvious a stealthy ground operation in force, not olmert's 8000 but 40,000 was necessry to outwit and trap hezbollah, with the use of special techniques to flush hezbollah, human shields, flooding, gas, phosphorus, everything goldstone is against, kemplinski sat by while shmolmert hestiated with on and off and 8000, wait, maybe there is a ceasefire, no -stop. What an imbecile. You are right, h e was a petty crook who made it big. peree, peretz, beilin---they make me sick with their flowery words and appeasement philosophy.Arabs are daggers waiting to betray you-that is their culture and you have to have your eyes open. Then you can make an arrangement. The story is not over for okmert as he has to pay for his criminality even though israeli judges are trying to protect him.
13. And any moron can become president too. Just look at the one
the Americans ,   elected!! Israel   (11.21.09)
14. If Peretz appeared competent at any time..
Mea   (11.21.09)
it was because Gabi Ashkenazi took the lead away from that other moron not mentioned in the story, Dan Halutz. Dan Halutz was Israel's Rumsfeld, a man so vain that he couldn't even listen to advise from his generals. It was the combination of the feeble minded and guilt-ridden Olmert, the king sized super stewardess Halutz, and the dirt town wannebe Peretz who came together to damn near cost Israel everything. Peretz himself has never been seen as a person to have confidence in. He is conceited to the point of silliness, and never seems capable to elevate his thinking above the small town organizer mode. His suggestion that time is affording the public a second opportunity to understand his contributions is utterly incorrect. It's just nice to not hear as much from him, that is all.
15. Silly, Arens meant the 'moron' Distruction Minister E. Barak
Bob   (11.21.09)
16. mea
marcel   (11.21.09)
Mea, you have it down right. Peretz ignores winograd who labelled him and incompetent. By the way, winograd should comment on goldstone and evaluate supposed war crimes. The results might shock and destroy goldstone's legal career. Halutz suffered zeira's problem,arrogance and conceit;remember he was informed in 73 that the war is on against his absolute conviction that egypt would not attack. Gen kaplinski cannot be promoted to any higher position as he sat around while olmert screwed up whereas sharon took the matter into his hands in 1973 and got a canal crossing going to change the dynamics. Kaplinksi sat taking notes for olmert.Israeli geneerals have to be able to change tactics and not be static.general adam was stuck. Now give credit to hezbollah with a good, very good strategy.Israel always improvises. Olmert would not let idf improvise.Mofaz sat there like a dodo instead of raising hell. And yaalon offered free consultation to the idf which olmert the arrogant moron refused.You pput ashkenazi, and yaalon in charge and idf would have made some gains. The iranian embassy in beirut should have been raided as well. So its not entirely olmert's fault. But it is mostly his doing. He appointed peretz, can you believe it. If mofaz was dm, he would not have let olmert go to war as israel was not prepared. No air force general can be chief of staff from now on and sharon was wrong.As he was wrong about unilateral gaza withdrawal unless you control the philadelphi corridor. Olmert and livni were the ones that talked him into it. finally, Olmert should pay for wrecklessly offering the golan and worse, accepting 50,000 arabs into israel which he if the law permitted should be taken to the gallows for. And Livni sat there while he spilled this rubbish. Am I blind or do I see a collection of misfits and absolute cowards.
17. BArak is no better than Perez! Look at last GAzza war!
Jay3 ,   Israel   (11.21.09)
18. ha ha ha
nimrod ,   Baghdad, Iraq   (11.21.09)
well come to Baghdad we have plenty of morons in our government, from our shady members of parliaments who arent even qualified to sell banana's to our Ministries who are filled with scum bags and peasants and illiterate idiots and Iranian citizens yes Persians they dont even have an Iraqi nationality and many dont speak arabic, funny isn't it.
19. Better late than never
Sagi   (11.21.09)
Two years after the fact someone has the guts to publicly call a "spade a spade".
20. Oh yest they can look at Peretz
Avi ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
Talking of Morons they dont get any bigger than former defence minsitster Amir Peretz. The man that lead us in to a sensless war, who couldnt even hold a pair of binoculars, and decalred the difference between that helicopter and the other is that one is bigger and one is smaller. Dont think even the circus would take Peretz as a clown,.
21. defending Peres is silly
Golan ,   Ashdod   (11.22.09)
Peres is a labor union thug. He was an incompetent defense minister, a destructive labor union leader, and a populist fool who has a bigger mouth than he had hands. To defend anything his like has done is a disgrace.
22. amir peretz was a total failure, enough said.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.22.09)
23. Donald Rumsfeld is Available
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (11.22.09)
He can do to Iran what he did to Iraq and Afghanistan.
24. We need Defense Ministers with experience
Steve   (11.22.09)
In a country like Israel, which faces such complex and serious security threats, we need Ministers of Defense who have the experience necessary to protect the country. I believe that people should only be eligible to be appointed Defense Minister if they have held the rank of Colonel or higher in the IDF. Ehud Barak, for example, has a lot of military experience, and while I don't agree with many of his political views, I would feel comfortable having him as DM if the country was attacked.
25. Labor, Leftists, Peretz=SPIN CITY. Hey Peret your binocular
Jae ,   Lynn US   (11.22.09)
are on backwards you putz. leftists turning Israel into soup. israel needs direct representation democracy- vote in every minister, not just every party.
26. Arens is absolutely right
Brod ,   USA   (11.22.09)
The sad reality is it takes a moron to appoint another moron in a strategic position. Israel cannot afford such laxity.
27. Peretz got the defense job because of the political system
zionist forver   (11.22.09)
Peretz has never served in the IDF or any other security service. His defenition of pre emptive strike is about unions going on strike before they make any demands.. His appointment as DM was more to do with the failings of this political system based on coalitions rather than any question of weather or not he was suitable to hold the post. Olmert needed Labour to form a coalition. Foreign minister is the most prestigious job after PM & had gone to Livni. The second most prestigious was DM so he gave that to Peretz in exchange for joining the coalition. The worst part is that Peretz legitimately thought he was the best man for the job and said that he thought it was better to have a man like him that an ex soldier. The best thing Peretz did after the war was being the only senior member of the government to atttend the 1 year memorial service for the men who died in Lebanon. Olmert, Livni, Dan Halutz & president elect Peres all snubbed the event. Former soldiers make the best defense ministers not civilians who don't know the first thing about military matters.
28. Ahhhhh Moshe Arens - what a GREAT man!
Talula ,   Israel   (11.22.09)
29. Ahrens right
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.22.09)
Ahrens, as a civilian Defense Minister under, ended the first Intifada within two years, what all his arrogant predecessors failed. Peretz, together with Olmert, caused Israel's defeat at the hands of Hezbolla because they assumed Jews are the enemy that must be destroyed. Peretz only good point is that he was fired before the failure in Gaza under self-proclaimed genius Ehud Barak.
30. THE TWO MOSHES : ARENS AND YA'ALON
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.22.09)
The 2 Moshes ,Arens and Ya'alon are the only two decent ,wise,sensible and honest politicians in Israel .They would make superb Prime Ministers .You can keep your Hebee Bibis and morally corrupt Baraks who are only fit to shine Clinton and Obamas' shoes ... AND THEY DO.
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