31. #28, #29, # 30
1. You call al lIsraelis arsim tourists just because one or two did something bad. Inthat case syhall we call all Turks killers since every so often I read a young boy killing a sister with parental orders as honour killings? Or looking at the now infoumous case of Muvever killing? You would not want that right?
2. If Turkey tires to attack Greece or South Cyprus now that tey are in the EU Turkey will have to fight all of EU.
3. I was in Istanbul this summer and I saw how those rich Arab tourists behave. The only tourists who did not respect the no picture taking rule inside Dolmabahce were Arabs. They were loud and disrespectful. Enjoy them. Iyi aksamlar
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32. #30 Turkey is a backward nation
Greece is a part of Europe, Something Turkey will never truly be. Just ask any Greek, Armenean, & Kurdish person just how wonderful the Turks can be. They still have a long way to go in order to be accepted as a 1st class nation
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33. #11
In which planet are you living in? check exchange rates, you will see that $1=1.5 TL :)
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34. #31 failed attempts to blame Turks
1. A failed attempt to accuse Turks. Firstly, Cem Gariboglu who killed that young girl is an ARAB. Gariboglu family is Arab and this is a known fact. So, now will you claim Turks for Arabs' killings?
Secondly, honour killings, polygamy, berdel-marrying in laws etc are all Kurdish traditions, they are part of KURDISH TORE.
Now, Arabs in Israel commit crimes and honour killings too, so shall we blame Israeli Jews for that? Are Israeli Jews honour killers?
You are blaiming Turks for the crimes Kurds and Arabs are comitting. How sensible is that? Go blame Tel Aviv Jews for Umm el Fahm Arabs' honour killings then.
2. Fantastic imagination. Who talks about a real war? Someone in this forum talked about arming Greeks against Turks and I replied that. Turkey has no interest in fighting Greece and Cyprus. Calm down.
3. One or two Arabs took a picture, so what? Some Americans, Europeans etc do that too, you warned them and they stop. I'm talking about hundreds of Israelis who annoy other tourists and tourism industry with their horrendous behavuours. They are not all arsim either, some are Ashkenazim, Russians, etc...Some are even my friends I must admit, they can be friends but most Israelis don't have good manners, this is a known fact even by Israelis. In Thailand, South America hotels are reluctant to accept Israeli tourists because of their disturbing behaviours.
Now, yom tov ve shalom shalom...
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35. #32 Do you think Turks wants to be part of the EU???
Ask Turkish people if they want to be part of the EU? Answer will be NO.
You think being EU is the criteria of being 1st class nation? Wow, discrimination at its best: you are classifying nations and people.
Let's have a look at the EU countries, shall we:
Germany: WW1 and WW2, countless crimes
France: WW1, WW2, Rwanda, Algeria, Indochina, Africa, slavery...countless crimes
Britain: Slavery, N.America, Australia, India, WW1, Afghanistan, Iraq...countless crimes.
Belgium: Congo, slavery, genocide, countless crimes.
Italy: Libya, Ethiopia, WW2, countless crimes.
Austria: WW1, WW2, countless crimes.
Greece: killing and toruring Turkish civilians throughout 19th and 20th century, invading Turkey in 1919-1922.
Cyprus: Butchering and mass killing Turkish Cypriot civilians including babies.
Bulgaria: Torturing and expelling hundreds of thousands Turks in 1980s and 1990s.
Candidates for the EU: Serbia and Croatia! Bosnian genocide, Kosova...
The list goes on and on...These are your '1st class' ones, yes, they are 1st class in committing crimes, mass killings, slavery, genocides. What a union, eh?
Oh, about Armenians, check Dashnak, Hinchak, Asala terorist crimes, mass killings, check Hocali massacres and see how they nailed and sliced Turkish civilians.
Fall in love with your 1st class people...
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36. #34 so now Kurds are not Turks ha?
So much for Ataturk's NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE concept. Now you are saying that kurds are bad and ethnic Turks are the super humans. What a racist remark.
I was brought to consider myself Turk inizmir and I was proud about it except racists just like you (Not my good Turkish friends whom I love, respect and protect all th etime) made me leave everything behind and emmigrate to USA.
BTW: The person who killed Uzeyir garih, Yasf yahya and Hrant Dink were not Arabs nor Kurds. In fact the killer of Dink is an ultranationalis Turk.
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37. #36 you are desperately twisting words...
In order to win an argument you are twisting words and making remarks that I didn't even say.
You blamed all Turks for Kurdish honour killing tradition and a murder of an individual who is an ethnic Arab. And when you did that you blamed 'Turks' and you did not specify 'Turkish citizens', did you?
Now, shall we blame Israeli Jews for Arabs' honour killings and Bedouins' female circumsitions?
What is racist in saying that Kurds commit honour killing according to Kurdish Toreh? Would it be racist if I say Arabs in Israel commit honour killings? So, shall we say Israelis commit honour killings and female circumsition, and include Israeli Jews in that to make you feel better?
You can't win an argument by accusing people as 'racist'.
In every country and nation there are killers, but you are still insisting to make all Turks as killers by listing murders in Turkey. Isn't that a racist approach?
In my arguments, there is nothing racist. In my understanding, I am not a racist Turk as you want to make yourself believe. I am not even a Turk in my blood and race anyway, I'm not Muslim either. But I am a Turk with all my soul.
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38. #37 It was you accusing all Jews inyour post
You were the one who generalized that most Jews are arsim.
I am not saying that all turks are murderers and blaming them. What i am saying is there are murderers among Turks just like there are bad israelis and Jews. But this should not be a reason to stereotype them the way you did in your post #28.
However to make a distinction between Turks and kurds the way you did is plain old racism. Just like those who stoned Ahmet Turk in my native Izmir a few days ago.
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39. ISRAEL !!! - CANCEL THE DEAL !!!.
THEY WILL BE USED AGAINST YOUR NATIONAL INTERESSTS IN THE BALKANS,
WHERE MIKAEL STANDING FOR ISRAEL WILL RISE !!!.
Daniel 12
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince who standeth for the children of thy people;
Arn-Orao.
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40. # 20
Suleyman ! I have a better idea,instead of drones,Turkey should buy drums,to frighten away,birds and Kurds.
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41. # 35
Like it or not ! Geographically, Turkey is moving toward Europe,while mentally,Turkey is moving toward Mecca with the midnight express.
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