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Haredi schools falsely register students to get funds
Tamar Trabelsi-Hadad
Published: 28.11.09, 08:37
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1. Jail whoever is behind this scheme
jason white ,   afula,israel   (11.28.09)
Close all hara-di institutions permanently and sell the buildings to non hara-di to recoup the loss by the state. Cut off all child allowances and welfare to the hara-di.
2. This is NEWS?
Liz   (11.28.09)
This has been going on for years..... and only now they are doing something about it. Shame on the Education Ministry for dragging its heels for so long!
3. stealing
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (11.28.09)
i guess if one performs the necessary rabbinical mental gymnastics, stealing can be magically turned into not stealing. nicely performed, men!
4. "It's not our problem"
NYC Girl   (11.28.09)
The haredim may think that losses suffered by the State are not their problem. But, if that's the case, what are they going to do when the money dries up, pray?
5. #2
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (11.28.09)
You beat me to it!!! I wanted to write that in!
6. They don't accept the State of Israel...
Marissa ,   Israel   (11.28.09)
but they are happy to accept our money. These people should not be given such large amounts of funding from the State when they don't contribute anything in return.
7. Marissa , 6 . Those schools recognise the State
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.28.09)
It is the edah charidit that does NOT recognise the State .
8. Cut all funding to those schools involved
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.28.09)
No State agora should come in their bank account .
9. So, what's new?This has been going on for years!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (11.28.09)
Education Minister Gidon Sa'ar should be aware that if he does anything about it the Ultra-Orthodox will call him a Nazi and threaten to leave the Government and then Bibi will be in a pickle! What happened to "Thou shalt no steal"!
10. Haredi schools
Jim Brown ,   TN USA   (11.28.09)
They won't work and receive welfare. Now they are stealing from the working citizens of Israel by cheating the government.
11. Worst Crooks
cas reader   (11.28.09)
No secrets here that the Haredi are BIG-TIME CROOKS.
12. Walk
Sagi   (11.28.09)
in the pathways of The Lord and thou shall be rewarded, but transgress his ways and his wrath shall be upon thee. Boy ! will these folks be in for a surprise when their beloved "Lord" come down on them like a ton of bricks, or could it be that they do not practice what they preach.
13. dressing like a penguin does not...
golan ,   ashdod   (11.28.09)
dressing like a penguin does not stop someone from acting like a fox, and acting as common as a monkey. Tzadik tzadik.
14. Haredi don't work, serve in army+steal-LEECHES
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (11.28.09)
15. Chreidim : Hillul Hashem
Religious Zionist   (11.28.09)
16. Haredi
rasjie ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.28.09)
All the talkback wont do a damn thing. The government always gives in to the Haredi crooks!!! Shame on them.
17. Will they riot...
Soeren ,   Cologne/Germany   (11.28.09)
... because of a "loss of morals" and a "lack of decency" – or is stealing, betraying and fraud o.k. but only parking lots are not (simply because they can't afford a car)...? What kind of morals can they teach the children – given their own example?
18. no suprise
marko ,   tel aviv   (11.28.09)
this doesnt suprise me at all,that something like this is exposed just a pity it was not sooner
19. you shalt not steal, Ganavim!!!
Jacob ,   Munich   (11.28.09)
20. This has been going on for years in secular schools
Sam   (11.28.09)
21. #9
shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (11.28.09)
You dont know the difference between the Eida and Agudat Yisroel who is in the govt.? Before passing judgment on a sector who are law abiding citizens (Aguda) learn your Jewish geography.
22. What ever happened to thou shalt not steal?
Nick Sporek ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.28.09)
23. How to "clean up" with god's help
Jojo ,   Prt. Wash NY   (11.28.09)
That's our Govt. They don't bother with small potatoes. Millions will do; as long as they are getting their bloated checks,the stolen money is only ours. You shall not steal applies to Goyim only; we the haredi know how to provide for ourselves. All those years confined to a yeshivah, we have to put our brains to work. How to.......without getting caught.
24. Why fund?
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot, Isreal   (11.28.09)
Is Israel making an error that can lead to its demise. I really do not understand why any government funding is given to any organization that does not believe in the state of Israel. We are just helping our detractors raise more detractors. Funding to our potential enemies must be stopped.
25. totally misleading
observer   (11.28.09)
The Eida Haredith does not sanction taking any money from the state for whatever reason. It is NOT their business what others do. It's between the Education Dept and the individual schools.
26. Sam #20
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.28.09)
Sam you are just talking off the top of your head. You have no facts to back up such a statement. As a person involved in government education, I do know wherof I speak. Government schools *do not* do this because they can't.
27. Close their schools and cut off their funding
Avi ,   Israel   (11.29.09)
Maybe they havent heard of " thou shalt not lie and cheat" which is strange as they seem to be very familiar with the terms " thou shalt live off the state taxes, while never working a day in your life, and thou shalt not serve in the army because thou are so holly"
28. Let's all be religious,trully religious,orthodox religious
Keren ,   IL-BR   (11.29.09)
Let's be the Kedoshim we are supposed to be. And we can start by applying in our cotidian lives 2 pillars of Judaism:Justice and Truthfulness. Those running Israel at the moment must rule Israel based at least in these 2 principles,otherwise nothing will ever go right. It is injust,it is untrusty what has been happening in the described above in this article .It is injust and untrusty to let it happen. If a MK supports such a thing he MUST be fired if he refuses to correct such aberrations going on in Israel,because they are a mockery to other Jewish souls in Israel.They are a mockery to all Israel. This unjust system created to protect injustice and untrustfullness MUST be dismantled. Starting to correct errors from inside is the correct step to also correct errors comming from outside.
29. The Israeli gov. cut and cut and cut funding. Any fool can
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.29.09)
see that NIS 6000 is nothing money to teach student for a year. So, are they stealing or just taking some of what they should have to exist as a school? If they secular gov. had not starved them of money, would they need to try every trick to keep open?
30. Haredi or State schools?
raymond ,   Jersey USA   (11.29.09)
You say they dont take money from the state! then you say they take it !. Do they, or dont they? or is it just some thieves that stole some money? bottom line, this article is what you call "Haredi Bashing" ,with the facts very mingled and distorted,the objective being, PAINT THE HAREDIM BAD. Thank You
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