If only the Human Rights Council cared for the oppressors in Africa and elsewhere in the world as much as they do towards Israel. THEN there would be a much more sustainable GLOBAL peace. But they only condemn Israel. Useless...

You speak of ethnic cleansing, Addie? How about the many massacres of Jews at the hands of the Arabs in 1948? How about the THOUSANDS of rockets that have fallen in Israel the last few years? Why don't you use your obviously biased argument to say that Hamas and Hizbollah want to ethnically cleanse Israel of Jews (as mentioned in the Hamas charter). Would you like to live in a bomb shelter like some of us in Haifa had to do? I didn't think so, as you make anti-Israel remarks about a country that you do not understand. If you could read between the lines, you can see that Israel is clearly making an effort to negotiate a peace agreement. The REAL impediment to peace is the Palestinian Authority's rampant corruption, and their inability to control the militant groups roaming their streets. It would seem difficult to negotiate with a lawless semi-autonomous people, but Israel is still making an effort to do so.

If your sources of info. were politically neutral & would be able to folllow any text book on the history of the Middle East, you could have made some sense...But all you right is a diatrab of a 1001 nigts fairytale about palestinians existing 500 years ago ?...The source of your immagined knowledge is based on the islamic terrorists teachings....You not fooling anyone on these boards with your barbaric approach to history of the region.... FYI-Judaism is the only religion, that is tracable for authenticity of facts and verifiable with history, geography and anthropology... Your manipulative hostility on this board can't make you believable.....

Number 4, Shalom, In the first place the majority in East Jerusalem were Jews before the Jordanian conquest after the UN declared the partition. We are simply reconquering. Secondly, the so-called road map demanded a halt to terror. The Mohammedans never stopped their terror. The only reason things are RELATIVELY quiet nowadays is that the Israeli Army works very hard. We need to hold them very short, Finally, as for "conquest", I know of only three cases in history where brave people not only stood up against the Mohammedan conquest but liberated the land which they had conquered. The first was the good side of the Christian Crusades, which liberated southern Europe. The second was in Western India where Siwaji, King of Maharashtra and Guru Gobind Singh drove out the Mohammedan usurpers. The third is Israel today, which is driving back the Mohammedan conquest by means of the Jewish settlers. Humanity should support us and encourage us, and not try to weaken us because of the illusion that peace with the Mohammedans is possible. The US’s first overseas war, over 200 years ago under Thomas Jefferson, was fought against Mohammedan sea terrorists, also known as pirates. It is therefore especially appropriate to come to terms with reality, and understand that Mohammedanism will never give up on their religion of conquest.

Excellent post.

You make a fool out of yourself claiming that those homemade rockets that mostly fell harmlessly in scrub land are an "existential threat", that's utterly ludicrous. Have you ever bothered to research a reputable Web site and look at these rockets? Have you ever seen them in context with other real, electronics guided ballistic missile actually capable of doing some serious damage? That being said, rockets and mortars fired into Israel indiscriminately by Palestinian militant groups has been termed a war crime and possible crime against humanity in the Goldstone Report. I supported that conclusion years before it came out in Goldstone. And do remember, during those years 2000 to 2008 it was Israel who killed ten times the Palestinians. Visit B'TSelem for their 20th anniversary report for the grim facts. Israel is far more effective at killing, it has fired far more munitions into the occupied territories than have ever been fired at it, and Israel is nine times out of ten the most likely to strike first during any perceived lull.

...have you ever heard of UNSCR 194? Study up on it, when the Palestinian refugees fully have their rights restored for them, I see no reason at all that displaced Jews should not be compensated as well under the terms of the resolution. The majority of the Palestinians have no problem with this view either because that's where I got it from. Fair and just, it doesn't get any better than that. And about the PA and their abilities. First of all, I prefer to be informed by people such as General Dayton who is in a far better position to know, and he has said the PA has made great strides. However, your claim that the PA cannot control militants is ludicrous given that Fatah seems to have no trouble at all rounding up Hamas members and locking them up. In fact, they do it so well that it was described in-depth in the Goldstone Report including possible violations of international law in particular when the PA was quelling unrest for Israel's sake during the War on Gaza.

...where in your nonsensical comment have you even alluded to a fact that was wrong? What "fairytale"? I get my information from governments, reputable organizations that examine both sides, and informed individuals in the first person. Based upon your comment I suspect you get you worldview from Fox News. First of all, each and every one of the Palestinian refugees forced to flee from their homes by Haganah, the Stern Gang, the Irgun and other Jewish terror groups. Haganah eventually rolled up all the others and was the forerunner for the IDF of today. Denying millions who exist is really pointless Jennie. There is a whole archeological school of thought about "past-mastering". One of the reasons the World Archeological Congress held its world conference in Ramallah this year. It seems there is a concerted effort to keep Palestinian archeology hidden, the better to replace it with a new narrative. Things like renaming more than 450 Arab villages and replacing them.

Cheerleaders usually grow out of it as they grow into adults. To cheer on clearly mediocre scholarship that simply advances a long since discredited narrative, how do you think that really helps Israel? When someone who is informed in the reality-based word comes across a post like yours, after the head scratching, one is left with a sense of sadness at what appears to be Israel's front line defense: Trying to sell a narrative that Israel's own official declassified archives prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that is less than truthful at best.

I realize exactly how do you build 28 new schools for 28 new settlements that oficialy acording to American propaganda reports do no not exist and so America does no not tell us the whole story seems Israel has gone ahead buildt settlements for 500 000 Israelis in the West Bank 500 000 more than the total number os Israelis in all of Israel in 1939 much less a freeze more like a Exodus Pharoah Obama is lieing to his own people as is Pharoah Clinton as did Pharoah Bush before them thus Mubarack may hardly expect Israel to know where it stands in this double cross by the Western powers of the Arab position regarding land it claims to support RIGHT ??? Thank You... M. S.

"...The source of your immagined knowledge is based on the islamic terrorists teachings...." If that was true then that would contradict my already stated point of using politically neutral sources. Barbaric approach to history? Not at all. Only religion traceable for facts? No. There are many religions which can be traced for verifiable history,geography and anthropology. Too many people here like to cherry pick history instead of looking at it as a whole.

I didn't deny the massacres of Jews at the hands of Arabs in 1948. Notice how I said "is also guilty" indicating more then one party is at fault. And even so, what's the point? I was simply asserting my point of both Jews and Arabs killing each other off. A better effort must be done from both sides in order to obtain peace? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7XtT91yO6g

You seem to back up your point of Fatah being well-able to control itself from Hamas. Are you even listening to what you're saying? Have you also heard of the Hamas takeover of Gaza right from Fatah's grip a couple years ago? Study up on this, too. When a government cannot control a major territorial segment, I call that a weak government that cannot control its people. Please proofread your statements before posting comments on this page.

...if you are not bright enough to trun to the section in the Goldstone Report where the PA and its security apparatus are discussed at great length, then of course you won't be nearly as informed as I am. I am also quite aware of the Mohammed Dahlan/US/Israel fostered coup by Fatah that Hamas got wind of and stopped in its tracks. The last thing Ariel Sharon wanted was Palestinian unity in the wake of the Gaza Disengagement Plan. Unity would not do, my goodness peace might break out and then the Palestinians and the world might notice what's happening in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Too late pal, the world has already noticed. (And so did the Dagmushes).

1. Fox News is a faire & balanced reporting agency of current events, not a history channel. What kind of respectable investigative historical source would publish the notion of palis being around for 500 years ? Also during the times of Irgun, Etzel,Beitar - the area was under the British MAndate and there were some Arabs living there... In my history book,already in early 19th century the majority of population in Jerusalem were Jews...Ever heard of the Balfur Declaration? In 1922 League of NAtions declared a mandate for Palestine as the home of Jewish people...The todays so-called palestinians are nothing, but refugees from Jordan,Egypt & other Arab countries, deliberately expelled to make a fake nation to be used as a reason and tool to destroy Israel..In 1947 the League of NAtions proclaimed the division of Palestine & creation of Israel and Jordan....The little sliver of land given to Israel was greatly accepted, turned into a prosperous peaceful heaven, but the rest you know your way and I do do my ....I was there-living the history, when Israel signed a peace agreement with Jordan & Egypt and gave away a beautiful town Yamit, they built in in the desert with many agricultural flurishing settlements-just to have peace...People(Jews) were giving up their homes, their livelyhood, their sovereignity and still doing it now only to achieve peace, but getting only more war and terror from those very places they gave up! ? Did you read about this in your sources? "Palestinian Archeology" ? What a joke...And the heck do you get your outrageous numbers?

There is no respectable textbook on the planet that would draw black and white conclusions from census figures from the period in question. Relying on persons like Joan Peters is of absolutely no help. However, even the lowest reliable figures from 1893 show more than 400,000 Arabs and Christians living in Palestine with only a small amount of Jewish immigration. In 1922, the next year that figures are fairly reliable shows 83,790 Jews and 579,000 Muslims in Mandatory Palestine. Nevertheless, because reliable data is so sketchy, beyond a couple of reliable reports and official census figures, the only hard fact that can be gleaned is that there were a substantial number of Arabs and Christians far outnumbering Jews until the middle of the last century or so. For a balanced and unbiased view, (and Fox News ain't it) see the discussion paper about known population figures here: http://www.mideastweb.org /palpop.htm

Thanks for sending the link...Now it's finally clear where your source of information is coming from:musim.com & their encyclopedia of the ME index...How convenient... Allow me to pick your brain on this:Israel has given up for peace huge pieces of land, liberated over 6defensive wars, waiged on the Jewish State in the last 32 years,and endless vicious intifadas against their sovereign land, that murdered thousands of innocent civilians...Did any country in the world returned land for peace with an enemy, that doesn't want to recognize the right of ISrael to exist...AS brief as I am trying to be, facts are too numerous and stuborn ...Your people are lost in lies and deceptions....Do you know, that despite it all, Israel is still supplying the lifeline to palestinians- water, electricity, medicine and medical treatments, etc....I bet you will not find it on muslim.com ...And while about a million of Arabs iving in Israel as equal citizens and free to leave anywhere and anytime, they don't. Why is that ? And can you immagine one Jew or Christian living in an Arab country as a citizen ?In all the decades,since the creation of the refugee camp in Gaza, did the palis ever create a minimal peaceful infrastructure in Gaza and West Bank, using the billions of $$ pouring to them from the world ? But I have to give credit, when it is due: Palis are the best in PR work around the world and are masters of using other nation's democracies and constitutions to their advantage and their real cause.... Have a nice Day ...