1. It was a rubber bullet- why isnt this mentioned ?
| yoni , |
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2. Wow it shows how brave the IDF really are
they shoot handcuffed and blindfolded prisoners, use white phosphorous shells and kill unarmed civilians
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3. The Punishment
I do hope it will be more than the punishment that Palestinian children receive for merely throwing stones at their oppressive occupiers. In other societies, these children would be hailed as heroes, and needless to say what the occupier would be rightfully considered. History speaks for itself, however, when it concerns Israel, as the oppressed becomes the oppressor's most unfortunate victims and is considered the perpetrator. This soldier did what he did because he knew he could get away with it.
Well, let's see how the "justice" system works with this particular crime. If one picture is worth a thousand words, then surely this video is worth much more.
| Marlene N. , |
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4. "Illegal use of weapon"
What about assault? Is that not what this was?
And clearly, an aggravating circumstance is the fact that the assaulter was a person of authority AND they already had the victim pacified and in custody.
The choice of crimes to charge these soldiers with clearly show the bias of the courts. Imagine a Palestinian cop beating a jailed settler - the outrage would be enormous.
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5. He should have
been shot in the head, and than no more monkey business at Naalin...
Now he will organize terror and become much more lethal.
THE FENCE MUST BE KEPT IN PLACE FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR CHILDREN.
| Even , |
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6. fold blinded eyewitness to testify in jail
the father of the girl who videoed the incident was put into jail because he was a true eyewitness. What do you expect they call a foldblinded to?
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7. #1 yoni shoot yourself with a rubber bullet for your answer.
| Stupid , |
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8. The guy had a blue mark on his toe, for **ck sake
This is worth a tribunal?!?
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9. Whats wrong with you people!!!
I wrote about this when it happened. As a former Marine, it is absolutely clear that the 'soldier' (sic) that assaulted this captive should stand for courts martial for a hell of alot more than simple assault, or the ridiculous charge of 'illegal use of a firearm'. Its like smashing a blind person in the back of the head and charging the foul perp with "illegal use of a rock":The entire world watched this idiocy unfold and it seems that no matter what the worst of the IDF does, they are coddled in a way that outrages the world. You are willing to give up child murderers, terrorists and anybody else for one precious soldier, yet you thumb your nose at the rest of the world for demanding real justice for a person shot while cuffed and blindfolded, How chickenshit is that! I want Israel to live, and I have turned my eyes from your deeds many, many times. You are proving to be a decrepit and lawless society full of fear and gut wrenching hate. This is not the way of the Torah. Put this miscreant in jail where he belongs, and apologize to the man he shot so cowardly in the name of Israel. You must show the world that this kind of thing is not acceptable even to you.
| Rob , |
Orangevale USA |
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10. In a normal society
The arab criminal would be shot in the head, and the solder would get a medal for doing his job.
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11. What is important?
Is the result of the shooting important, or the fact that it occurred at all? If the man were slightly hurt, not hurt at all or badly hurt the fact remains the same - a man blindfolded, handcuffed and held by the arm was shot. That is wrong, that is illegal and that is not behaviour acceptable to IDF standards.
| A Jerusalemite , |
Jerusalem, Israel |
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12. # 8
Watch the video.You clearly see the soldier aiming & shooting the Palestinian's leg. Sad to see
| Birdi , |
Israel |
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13. NO POLICE FORCE OR SOLDIERS IN THE WORLD DO THIS
THERE SHOULD BE MORE DISCIPLINE AND PROPER DECISIONS MADE. EVEN IN THE VIOLENCE OF A DEMONSTRATION.
THE SOLDIER TOOK OUT HIS FRUSTRATION BY AIMING SPECIFICALLY AT THE RIOTERS LEG WITH RUBBER BULLET.
BTSELEM SHOULD PROVIDE PHOTOS OF HAMAS PAL. ARABS SHOOTING THE FATAH PALS IN THE KNEE CAP WITH REAL LIVE BULLETS.
THE HAMAS ARABS ALSO THREW THE OTHER FATAH PALS OFF THE ROOFS.
I AM NOT CONDONING ANY ACTS, THE COURT WILL MAKE A LEGAL DECISION.
I WOULD PROTEST AGAINST THE BTSELEM GROUP WHICH MOSTLY CRITICISE ISRAELIS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY.
BTSELEM..... LET'S SEE YOUR IMPARTIALITY BY SHOWING PHOTOS OF THE HAMAS ARABS SHOOTING THE FATAH PALS ARABS..
MAYBE THIS DOES NOT COUNT, BECAUSE YOU MAINLY WANT SHOW ISRAELIS IN A BAD LIGHT.
BTSELEM............WAKE UP, YOU ARE ISRAELIS, AND YOU WILL BE BLAMED FOR THIS LIKE OTHER ISRAELIS.
BTSELEM .......THE GROUP
WHO GIVES THE VIOLENT ACTIONS OF THE ARABS / PALS A FREE RIDE...... IS IT THEIR MANDATE TO ONLY DIRECT THEIR CRITICISM AGAINST ISRAEL.
| ABARAHAM ben JACOB , |
CANADA |
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14. #9..ROB U.S... YOUR ARMY IS ANGELS ?
#9 ROB, GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF.
YOU DISPLAY AN ANGER AND ARROGANCE, AS IF THE U.S. ARMY SOLDIERS NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG IN THEIR WARS IN VIET NAM, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ.
YOU USED LIVE AMMO. IN THE U.S. ARMY.
YOU BOMBED OUT WHOLE VILLAGES...............IS THIS OKAY ?
WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN IF YOU GOT THE GUTS.
I STILL LIKE THE U.S., IN SPITE OF SOME U.S. SOLDIERS KILLING UNARMED PEOPLE.
I DON'T HATE THE U.S. BECAUSE OF SOME U.S. SOLDIERS ACTED WRONGLY.
| ABRAHAM ben JACOB , |
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15. no matter how big an idiot they are, don't shoot detainees
they'll be extreme jerks to push soldiers to their limit, but they should not do such things ever.
| mike , |
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16. no punishment
there wont be any punishment for the soldiers,just a little nu nu on the hand, they are above the law in the eyes of the racist system
| marko , |
tel aviv |
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17. First you slam the video camera into
the cameraman's eye, then you shoot.
| jason white , |
afula,israel |
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18. # 1 and # 5 head shot
yoni so what if it was a rubber bullet . the man was handcuffed and blindfolded at the merci of another man so that makes it ok because it was a rubber bullet. you train your army very well but with no home training to respect other men who are not jewish .
And Even who thinks like a monkey says it should have been a head shot .
| zyad aby zaydoon , |
ramallah / palestine |
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19. War is brutal especialy if you are a good person RIGHT ???
I realize war is brutal especialy if you are a good person I know because I am a good person alas though acidents like this show the mis conceptions of war still I favor a suspended sentence RIGHT ??? Thank You... M. S.
| M. S. , |
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20. Re: #19
Calling the shooting of a handcuffed and blindfolded man in your custody an accident is misleading. It is not an accident if you do it intentionally, and the intentionality of this shooting is beyond questioning.
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21. #14 Abraham typical reply to madness
First of all, I wasn't in the Army, I am a Marine. 2nd , my post wasn't about 'anger and arrogance'
At least not mine.
"used live ammo"... yeh.
"bombed out whole villages".. yeh
"shoot unarmed, blindfolded handcuffed prisoners, Hell no.
You 'still like' America. Who gives a damn. It's exactly the responses like yours that makes the world a little sick inside for you. Of course in Canada, you don't know how to respond since you don't wear the uniform or have no sense of morality. "call my congressman if I have the guts" it only takes a phone Abe, and 5 minutes. No guts involved there. Of course we have done "wrong" Abe, but we are not proud of it as you seem to be. To all who want pain for the messenger, beware, it will cause your demise. Truth is the only thing you have, toss it and all bets are off.
Shalom
| Rob , |
Orangevale USA |
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22. #10 Army
I dont know where in the US you are, but if your idea of normality involves shooting 'Arab criminals' in the head, without trial, you had better not try it in front of me, or you would eat my rifle butt and I would have you both in cuffs. Yours is a particularly foul post and I'm sure you were never in the Army to begin with. You sir, are an ass.
| rob , |
orangevale USA |
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23. #21,22 ROB .. WHAT'S YOUR POINT ??
YOU RAMBLE ON AND AS IF FROM AN UNPREPARED TEXT.
ROB ADMITTED TO SOME OF THE CHARGES I OUTLINED.......
"used live ammo"... yeh.
"bombed out whole villages".. yeh "
HE PLEADS GUILTY TO TWO OF THE CHARGES AS STATED ABOVE.
"shoot unarmed, blindfolded handcuffed prisoners, Hell no. ".......... ............................NOT ROB'S ARMY !.... YEAH SURE !
COME ON ROB, YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY MEAN THIS OR KNOW ALL THIS.
ARMIES LIKE ANY ORGANIZATIONS TRY TO KEEP THEIR DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS AND COVER THEM UP.
IS THE U.S ARMY ANY DIFFERENT FROM OTHER ARMIES...... YES I BELIEVE SO, THE U.S. ARMY IS MAINLY A MORAL ONE AND ESPECIALLY
COMPARED TO MOST OF THE WORLDS' ARMED FORCES.
YES I STILL LIKE THE U.S DESPITE DIFFERENCES ANY COUNTRY MAY HAVE WITH ONE ANOTHER BUT ROB WHO CRITIZES OTHERS RESPONDS WITH THIS STATEMENT.................
"you 'still like' America. Who gives a damn. " ........ THIS DISPLAYS YOUR TRUE HOSTILE NATURE WHICH CAME OUT AND REVEALS
WHO YOU REALLY ARE.
ROB MORALISES AGAIN, AS HE PRETENDS AGAIN TO KNOW -IT-ALL.
THIS IS WHAT HE SAID REGARDING ME....................
"you were never in the Army to begin with. You sir, are an ass. "
THIS IS BASICALLY THE TYPICAL LINE PEOPLE USE WHEN THEY ARE LOSING THE FIGHT AND ARE RETREATING AND ROB # 21, 22 USES IT HERE.
ROB........YOU LOST, MOVE ON !
| ABRAHAM ben JACOB , |
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24. Police fired rubber bullets - BUT NOT IN ISRAEL
I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS JUST RECENT EVENT FROM GENEVA WHICH JAS TO DO WITH POLICE REACRIONS TO VIOLENT DEMONTRATERS.
GENEVA —" Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets Saturday to separate violent demonstrators from a protest of a meeting of top world trade officials, but the hooded "black bloc" activists were able to cause damage before 14 were arrested, spokesmen said.
AND SOME OF THE YNET TALKBACKS ONLY SINGLE OUT ISRAEL.
WHAT WILL THE "ROB" GUY #21..AND #22 ..SAY ABOUT THIS USE OF FORCE BY GENEVA POLICE USING RUBBER BULLETS.
HE MAY ANSWER........... BUT THE GENEVA RIOTERS RAN FREE AND AMOCK AND WERE NOT TIED UP.
BELIEVE THIS ! ........... IF THE GENEVA POLICE COULD HAVE TIED THESE PEOPLE UP, AND HAD A CHANCE TO SHOOT THEM WITH RUBBER BULLETS, THEY WOULD.
#21, #22 ...ROB....... NOW YOU HAVE TO WRITE CRITICAL COMMENTS AGAINST THE SWISS POLICE IN THE SWISS NEWSPAPERS............. WILL YOU ?
| ABRAHAM ben JACOB , |
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