the arabs' vehemnt rejection, till today, of anything "zionist/jewish" in their midst isn't new.there's a reason they ,the arabs<"missed" opportunities for peace and settlement- they simply don't want to! thearabs propoganda ,oiled by left- wing groups, and other bleeding -hearts self- hating jews, wsh to distort historical and moral facts- thisl and belongs to the jewish people, period.

How easily the dreamers and fools are sold into slavery and the new death camps with false promises. The duped and dumb leaders play the role of pied pipers to lead Israel into the jaws of not peace but hell.

What if the arabs (as they already did) say no? What are we going to do? Are we going to start building with strength and try the logical way of dealing with them? I don't believe Bibi is got what's necessary!

as the sweep second hand of the clock reaches noon , and the alleged "Palestinian Peace Partners" have transformed and transmogrified themselves into Swiss; and the Israel Government *finally* reaches an understanding with itself and ANNEXES **ALL**of Judea/Samaria, this entire exercise will have been for naught. Appeasing an incompetent pro-Islamic U.S.president will have P.O.'ed Israelis and emboldened the Noble Sons of the Desert. Are there no REAL leaders? Answer: Nah. There are not.

Arabs "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity" because they would choose war rather than peace

Abbas will have to decide, but he and the rest can´t drop the "return", so "peace" negotiations are doomed. Bibi did the right tihnk for now.....

USA is got to be one of the dumbest countries in the world

the Arabs will feel they dont have to compromise or make any of their own concessions because they know no matter how agressive and uninterested in peace they (Arabs)are the world will side with them So they (Arabs)do whatever they like

The only "opportunity" the Arab Muslims are waiting for, is the opportunity to destroy Israel, and the U.S. The endless lies, and venom from Muslim leaders prove their evil intent. They have openly declared war on the U.S. and Israel. WHY DO WE REFUSE TO BELIEVE THEM?

Geez. What part of "complete freeze" that Israel signed onto six years ago don't you folks get? This is just the same lame Israeli government line trotted out and well-worn for years. The proof is the more than 100,000 new colonists illegally transferred into occupied territory since 2003. And this business about recognizing Israel, Arafat did that long ago. Bill Clinton traveled to Gaza and witnessed it. Get over it. It is amazing that Israel's "leaders" keep trotting out this propaganda as if none of the rest of the world can read the documents, and important watersheds like the Goldstone Report, and then continue to act as if the true facts are not in the public domain. It's quite pathetic actually. And it is becoming harder to stomach. At this point it is as hard to believe anything coming out of official Israel anymore than one would expect from Robert Mugabe and his crew in Zimbabwe.

If only the Arabs didn't reject the UN Resolution, 181, that called for the establishment of a "Jewish state" and an "Arab state" in the Land then, this region would be today so different. But they missed that opportunity, as they have missed so many opportunities of peace since, and come to think of it, before that day. So much so that Abba Eban coined the saying: "The Arabs have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity" for peace. Will they continue to miss opportunities and blame all for those misses but themselves - since introspection, soul-searching, self-criticism are concepts that don't exist in the Arabic language and mindset - or will they rise, finally, above themselves and state clearly and in Arabic: We accept Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people. We do so based on the universally accepted right of all peoples, including that of the Jewish people, to national self-determination and independence; and we do so based on the recognition by the League of Nations as reflected in its decisions and that of the United Nations as reflected in it resolutions and we welcome the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel, into the fold of Middle East and North African countries, hoping to live alongside it in peace for ever. I hope to hear such a statement; indeed all Jews yearn to hear it and have been yearning to hear it for many decades. But sadly, so far we have heard only silence and the sounds of canons, mortars and rockets fire at us...

this fool talks as if the giving up of gaza never happened and was never really an opportunity for peace... like the oslo accord never happened and never was an opprtunity... like you name it in the name of opportunity. this freeze on the reclamation of our lands is pure idiocy... and will only encourage the arabs to believe that their anti-israel propaganda really works and that they can continue by these means to regain all the lands they invaded in israel. the leftists in likud must be expelled from its governing circles. Israel must continue to build. and never again see a divided jerusalem.

Jew living in their ancient homeland are colonists? Who the hell are you to tell Jews where to live? You who lives on land STOLEN from Native Americans.

"The only "opportunity" the Arab Muslims are waiting for, is the opportunity to destroy Israel, and the U.S. " Oh, really? Care to explain how they would go about doing so? "They have openly declared war on the U.S. and Israel." Really? All 1.5 billion of us?

...recognized Israel. It''s old news. This new demand by Bibi is nothing more than a device to keep a final settlement from moving forward. It's an impossible demand, and an immoral one. One fifth of Israel's population is not Jewish and the Palestinians certainly are not going to agree a precondition that virtually wipes away their guaranteed right of return and endangers the Arab Palestinian population within Israel proper.

FED UP TO READ THE SAME BS! NO CHANGE AND BORING.

...I and my wife are Eastern Band Cherokee. And I'll thank you for not lecturing me about our history. Let me break it down for you. Back in the day, us Indians didn't have the Geneva Conventions of the Hague Treaty. But today, the Palestinians do. I have told no one where they can or cannot live. But common sense tells me I can't steal my neighbors land and kill some of them in the process, it would be an illegitimate illegal act. A couple of months ago UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon patiently explained to a succession of Israel ministers that each and every one of the colonies are illegal. It's really no mystery. That's been the same position that the United States has had since at least 1973. For a little while idiots were allowed to shout away international law and UN resolutions. Never again.

I notice also that you didn't answer...

Are you now setling at Ynet to bash Jews/Israel?who the hell cares whether you have indian antecedents.As far as most of us Jews are concerned you have zilch reason to tell us what we should or not.GET IT? Now back into your corner and shut up. By the way,on the other forum you mentioned Our Sharon leaving gaza for an ulterior motive?How the hell do you know what OUR GENERAL SHARON had in mind?Are you a mind reader? TELL YOU SOMETHING:I CALL IT "SHARON'S FOLLY".Were he able to hear /listen to me,I'd shake the daylights out of him so's he can see THE LEGACY OF HIS ERRONEOUS ACT. After consecutive Govts had encouraged our people to settle in Gaza.They did not initiate the move,but accepted it. They were there for 40+ years,worked like slaves and built a viable city,worked with the Arabs side,by side with no problems.What is more those Arabs were free to enter Israel proper to work freely. Another aspect was those 8.000settlers were buffer for Israel proper.No terrorists as now.Calm and peaceful in the main. Then oops! comes Sharon and decides to dismantle the whole stucture and throw those Jews out. Who are still living in hotels,families dispersed,children traumatized,divorces etc. So,don't tell me about Sharon a man I admired so much. Now? I say he made a big blunder.But I will not have his NAME BESMIRCHED by your likes,understand?

Your posts are a marvel,and I approve your sentiments completely. Everything writen within it makes not only sense but it is the truth. No point in breast beating,for we have been accustomed to the Arabs who have caused umpteenth errors and undoubtedly will continue to do so. Having read the long post of course I understand the feelings within it. Not only Abba Eban,but also Golda Meir said same. The favour: Have you noticed that bastard bbsnew is taking over,and I suggest you deal with him accordingly and BE NOT SOFT with his kind.For I am sure you have seen him write on the other ....place (which shall be nameless),and now he thinks HE IS GOING TO RUN RIOT ON THIS ONE TOO. Take it as it comes,BUT GIVE NO QUARTER. There he is writing to you with his usual sneaky way. Once you have read it,,do accordingly as is your wont. Shalom

...that's simply a false accusation of a small extremist mind. As Israel, the client state of the United States, is increasing world terrorism and affecting American National Security Interests, it is my interest as an American to see Israel finally held to the same standards of international law expected of other Middle Eastern countries. Ariel Sharon's history is well-known. He joined Haganah, an early Jewish militant terrorist group at age 14. He's been indicted on war crimes charges for Sabra and Shatila, and his reign of terror is well know from Lebanon to Gaza. For more about Sharon's "charmed life" as "Arik King of Israel" see: http://www.wrmea.com/archives /august-september01/0108009.html Oh, and that bit about using "settlers" as human shields, what you call a "buffer" - that's barbaric third world thinking.

There is nothing "sneaky" about verifiable facts and figures. If you can dispute a fact I have posted then do so with a pointer to a verifiable source. WIKI does not count as CAMERA is mounting a concerted effort to insert Israeli propaganda there and their entries about Palestine can no longer be trusted until the CAMERA propagandists are rooted out. "BUT GIVE NO QUARTER"... Do you have any idea how deluded you sound when you write such tripe? There is no war about facts and reality. There does seem to be a slew of wingnuts though who are out of touch with both. Work on that as is your wont...

from both sides of their mouths,one in english,another in arabic .One knows the real meaning. Bit it arafart the RAT(MHRIH) Who supposedly recognized our country,but soon changed the wording in a nano SECOND IN ARABIC. If any naive person thinks we Jews are fools and will fall for that type of recognition then they are EQUALLY foolish to believe it. Incidently to someone who began his regurgitation on the Sabra/shatila blaming MY EX RIME MINISTER better shut his mouth or else he'll end up in jail for character assasination GET IT bull shitting news? As for fiscal corruption:What does it have to do with you outsiders?Our affair not damn well yours bulshitnews.

It's quite pathetic actually. And it is becoming harder to stomach. At this point it is as hard to believe anything coming out of official Israel anymore. If it is pathetic harder to stomach,then buggar off to a Muslim site and do the vomiting there before you polute this Israeli site if you don't mind. We hate to clear your disgusting mess.So please go,go.

Come on find it.I posted it only 15 mins'ago. Toda

Israel has recognized borders, any settlements outside of these borders are illegal. These attempted land grabs, also know as "facts on the ground" or "settlement" are not assets that Israel gets to keep, they are evidence of Israel's contempt for international law. Appeasement on an issue of this nature would set a very dangerous precedent. Refer to annexed Austria for clarification.