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Setting the record straight
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 01.12.09, 11:13
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1. Another Disgraceful article!!
Israeli 2   (12.01.09)
First Orly and now Yitzchak. Mamash despicible.
2. THE RECORD SET ABSOLUT STREIGHT !!!,
Arn-Orao. ,   Sweden-Srbia.   (12.01.09)
WHO IS THE STREIGHT GUY HERE ??? - IS IT THIS ONE RECORDED HERE - Isaiah 54 1"Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child! For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife," saith the LORD. 2Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations; spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes. 3For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left, and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. 4"Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed; neither be thou confounded, for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. 5For thy Maker is thine husband" the LORD of hosts is His name" and thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; the God of the whole earth shall He be called. AND - and parted My land. FROM - Joel 3 1"For behold, in those days and in that time, when I shall bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, 2I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My land. -OR IS IT THIS ONE RECORDED HERE - After the meeting in Washington in May, a senior official in the PM’s plane was said to have uttered a statement about the “idiot who speaks about a two-state solution. AND - However, our Sports Minister, Limor Livnat, went further than ever. Foolish talk such as “we’ve stumbled upon a terrible administration” was never heard before, and American officials are asking why Obama deserves this. THE FIRST ONE IS NO JERK, THERE IS NO DOUBT IN THIS. HE ALWAYS CEEPS HIS PROMISES, AND ARE ALWAYS TRUE TO HIS WORDS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW4OPRb4uTs TAKE YOUR PIC !!!. Arn-Orao.
3. Israel gets used by the West...
k1w1 ,   NZ   (12.01.09)
...and they're gagging for more. Of course the U.S. and the West will continue looking after Israel. Israel has the job of guarding the West's oil reserves in the Middle East, doing the distateful work that needs to be done there and generally being the bad guys in the neighbourhood, deflecting most of the local flak that would otherwise be directed at the West. And the price the U.S. pays for having a proxy state in the Middle East is a measley few billion dollars a year -- most of which goes straight into the U.S. arms industry.
4. obviously...
tom ,   toronto, canada   (12.01.09)
obviously a believer that obama walks on water. (and possibly one of the last ones left in washington.) outside the district of columbia and its reality distortion field, obama has done little or nothing for israel, while "making nice" to the arab world. all of israel's enemies are stronger than they were when took office, and some, like the plo, now enjoy his unconditional support for their anti-israel agenda. surprisingly, this has not satisfied abu mazen, who, like a greedy child on christmas morning, now regrets not having asked for even more. and it's nice to hear that medvedev is speaking words of encouragement - while hurrying to complete the russian-built nuclear reactor at bushehr. so far, obama has not walked on water, but he has caved in to preconditions from the palestinians, tied israel's hands on iran, and allowed hezbollah and hamas to re-arm. with friends like these...
5. if you think Obama is a friend of Israel...
golan ,   ashdod   (12.01.09)
are you kidding me? The Obama administration and the American President himself has time and again placed wedges between the current American administration and western countries preferring to cuddle and fawn over eastern and African countries while showing disrespect to wester and traditional American allied countries. Case in point the DVD western movies given the the British government as a "gift" (aka insult)
6. Let us be clear: Being critical of Obama does mean being
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.01.09)
critical of the United States of America or its public, those who did and those who didn't vote for Obama. Also, being critical of Obama, for us, Israelis, does not mean that we are critical of his administration with regard to issues which don't touch Israel, both domestic and international. Having said the above, there is much to be critical of Obama's approach to the Jewish people and its national homeland of Israel. His knowledge, understanding and appreciation - or lack thereof - of Jewish history, including the history of modern Zionism and the establishment of the state of Israel, and the Jewish people's affinity to the Land of Israel approaches ZERO. He has demonstrated his level of knowledge and understanding more than once, in both speeches and demands of Israel. It is not entirely clear to me that his knowledge of the Arab world is any better incidentally, also demonstrated by his speeches as well as attempts to implement policies that with a bit more understanding he should have known could simply not be implemented in the Arab world. With this background, coupled with ideological concepts derived from various sources, including those of Rev. Wright's, Rev. Jackson and Min. Farakhan, one can't but be critical of the Obama administration and the person who heads it.
7. What Benhorin wrote is what we R supposed to think about BHO
Alan ,   SA   (12.01.09)
8. b.o. has done nothing for Israel, except
jason white ,   afula,israel   (12.01.09)
hurt us. his incompetence and muslim upbringing is weakening us. he refused to sell us the F-22 that we could have used to hit iran. his support of the p.a. and forcing the coward bibi to stop building on our Jewish land. Having a vile anti Israel secretary of state like hitlery clinton shows he is against us. Sending over mitchell the arab ex- senator here, as well as having jones as his security advisor. Having vicious anti Zionists like emmanuel and axelrod in the White House shows he is against our existence. Giving money and training to the palis shows him for what he is. b.o. is our enemy and we never had one as bad as this in the Oval office. b.o. is only upholding agreements and treaties that previous administrations signed with us. b.o. also knows that we have friends in both Houses and Nov, 2010 is not that far away. Hopefully the dems will become the minority and by 2013 there will be an American as President of the U.S. again!
9. HUH!
Ellen ,   Israel/USA   (12.01.09)
"Setting the Record Straight" is an OPINION piece and the opinion of Mr. Benhorin is incorrect for anyone who claims to want Israel to survive and be strong. Being a reporter gives him no more authority than anyone else. Mr. Obama could care less about Israel's security. His actions prove this. As another talkbacker said, all that American aid is spent in AMERICA!!! ( and our economy here needs it!) Freezing settlements, demanding Jerusalem as a PA capital are not the actions of a friend. Obama is continuing to feed the frenzy of Arab wants and continuing to set things up to make it easier for things to be negotiated prior to the negotiations. Now, if only Bibi would get that!.
10. Obviously Yitzhak Benhorin and I do not share the same worl
Trumpeldor ,   eurabyeh   (12.01.09)
Pathetic analysis .
11. have not understood a thing!
uli ,   kiryat ono   (12.01.09)
YES WE CAN.. DO WORSE... http://aro1.com/wordpress/arye/barack-hussein-obama/yes-we-can%e2%80%a6-do-worse-hussein-obama-a-downhill-year-summary-of-a-teenage-minded-most-powerful-ruler/
12. Where do they find them???
m   (12.01.09)
It amazes me the quality of journalist (opnion actualy) that this newspaper finds.
13. Yea Right
John Weinstein ,   USA   (12.01.09)
Yea Right
14. :: Why do so many people here hate Obama?
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.01.09)
I am puzzled by this. The level of hate directed towards Obama by people here and within Israel itself is relentless. Even before Obama got elected he was reviled by some Jews/Israelis. Yet Obama has only embraced Israel, continued to fund Israel, supported the right for Israel to live in peace and security by promoting the ME peace process. Yet at ever turn he is attacked and vilified! Why is this? Why do Jews/Israelis hate Obama so much?!
15. :: Why so much hate?
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.01.09)
Why do (some/most) Jews/Israelis and their supporters, here on this website, ‘hate’ so much? Every day there are expressions of vile hate towards a whole host of people. Generally this can be divided into the following groups: 1) Any poster who points out Israel’s moral and social failings. 2) Obama (especially Obama!) and the current American Gov Administration. 3) ‘Self-hating’ Jews (ie: any Jew/Israeli who acknowledges that Israel may have erred in some fashion). 4) All Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims/etc including Palestinian-Israelis living in Israel. 5) Any country/world leader/NGO/human rights Org/person/etc that criticizes Israel for its continued brutal illegal occupation of Gaza and the WB, war crimes, lack of accountability under international law, belligerence/etc/etc. I am still undecided whether it is ‘some’ or ‘most’ of Jews/Israelis and their supporters that ‘hate’ so much. However I can say that the hatred expressed here by rabid, self-ignorance, pro-Israel posters on a daily basis is far in access to what I or anyone one else here can be ever accused of. Everyday I read expressions of blatant hate, racial slurs, bigoted remarks, unfounded allegations, etc from those who claim that ‘Israel’ is snowy-white in the eyes of g-d and not accountable to International Law or Israeli law. I really have to ask, what is this hatred based on?
16.  wrong, b.o is no friend of ours!
OZ   (12.01.09)
the bo administration has been hostile to israel from day one.. sure ,he'll say the "right' things about israel's security and other media bits, but underneath it all it stinks! just look at the vehement anti- israel ""advisers" he is surrounded himself with- power, emenuel, axlred, jones, khalidi, wright, and scores of others... when you sleep with dogs you get fleas. we got nobama....
17. Setting the Record Straight
Nili   (12.01.09)
This is a sick article. obummer came from nowhere, has spent millions insuring nobody learns anything about his past, his granny is enjoying hajij in mecca--which by the way can only be entered by muslims, and everything he has done since elected has been pro-muslim and anti-Israel. Even when a muslim kills US troops on a US base he is making excuses. That is one sick piggy--hopefully the US will survive him.
18. Correction to Post number 6:
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.01.09)
Presently sentence reads: "Being critical of Obama does mean being critical of the United States of America..." It should be read, however: Being critical of Obama doesn't mean being critical of the United States of America..." Sorry. Eitan Qatzrin, Israel
19. Pure stupidity!
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.01.09)
20. RECORD STRAIGHT
DORIS ,   ACCRA   (12.01.09)
THX FOR THE TRUTH, HOPE THE SPOON FEEDING WILL NEVER STOP. IT IS AMAZING TO SEE ISREAL BEHAVING THE WAY THEY DO. THEY TEND TO FORGET THAT WITHOUT THE SURRORT OF THE USA, THEY DON'T MATTER AT ALL. HOPE THOSE WHO HAVE EYES AND HEARS WILL LISTEN AND HEAR. THX AGAIN.
21. Obama can kiss my ass!!!
KACH 613   (12.01.09)
22. #15
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (12.01.09)
Kol Ha'Kavod! You are right on the mark. As is Y. Benhorin. Obama has been good for Israel. He has not agreed to every single thing every single person wants. But he has the basics down. Woe is the person, who in our day and age bases Israel's existence on a book. Learn from the Holocaust. G-d helps a moving vessel. We can't move by expecting the world to lie down and give us everything. We must work with others, not preach to them. If we are a light unto the nations, that light is dimming fast.
23. Fear and the Usual Suspects
ussishkin ,   tel aviv israel   (12.02.09)
Yep they're all there, from those who claim Obama has learned his Jewish and Israeli history from Louis Farrakhan to those who see just see Obama's name and make the appallingly racist formula out of the fact he has an Arabic forename and therefore must be an Arab and thus anti-Israel. So much for intelligent Jewish minds. So much more for deeply paranoid little Israel reality deniers. Not too far below the surface of so much of this outright hatred is a fundamental fear hidden by racist language and bravado rhetoric. The more this stuff pours out the more it achieves absolutely the opposite of what its writers intend. It tells Americans what many American Israel supporters and American Jewish talkbackers have said - that too many Israelis do not want to face reality and that blinkered very junior ranking politicians are prepared to risk US support for Israel by denigrating its President. And they and increasing numbers of Jews and ordinary US citizens are fed up with it. Their $30 billion tax dollars come to you and this is how you behave? The absence of any real apology from Netanyahu for this disgusting outburst from the nonentity that Livnat really is says as much about him as needs to be said. Everyone else is wrong - right? No one understands our pain -right? We are victims - right? The reality is that no one buys this any more from us. They're not impressed by this invective the way they're not impressed with the attempted distortion of reality. How can we be perpetual victims whilst also being the strongest regional power? BTW if we are that power we have the USA to thank for giving us much of the military ability for that. But the worst of it is that the enemies of Israel hear this stuff just like everyone else and they understand what's behind it too - fear. If you want therm to play on that fear then just keep up this nonsense. You play into their hands. You appear weak and not strong and you give them reasons to think they can attack us because this makes us look so scared of loosing the very little we have achieved. It really is time to grow up and stop denying reality. What do you see when you look at yourselves in the mirror each day? Whatever that truth is, be sure of one thing, Obama did not put your fears there. Only you are to blame for them.
24. # 11
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.02.09)
WOW, what an article. Thanks Uli for the link.
25. #15: Good comment, Matty. I agree.
k1w1 ,   NZ   (12.02.09)
I, too, used to wonder about the crazy reaction from posters on this and other websites towards anything that is even vaguely critical of Israel. It seemed wierd, the nasty, vitriolic attacks from the (apparently) world-wide pro-Israel brigade directed at any comment that condemns Irsaeli state action as immoral or illegal or aggressive, or is seen to support Israel's "enemies" -- and everywhere a clamouring call to attack Iran. But then, a few weks ago I read this: "Israel's Foreign Ministry, headed by right-wing extremist Avigdor Lieberman, runs a semi-covert program which is openly funded by the government as the "internet fighting team" but which deliberately conceals the affiliation of the "talkbackers". Ilan Shturman coordinates the Ministry effort, which is run out of the Hasbara Department, "hasbara" being a Hebrew word that is normally translated as propaganda. Shturman's young and enthusiastic employees work from a prepared script of official Israeli government positions. They are instructed not to identify themselves either as Israelis or as government employees." And: "A private advocacy group called Give Israel Your United Support has a reported 50,0000 activists who use a specially developed software called megaphone that sends an alert when anti-Israeli commentary appears, permitting supporters to bombard the hostile site with their own comments."
26. # 25
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.02.09)
LOL, now you can all sit & ponder if any of us are one...or two of the "activists" LOVELY thought !!
27. #25 Hasbara means explanation
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.02.09)
Sounds like you're threatened not only by Lieberman but pro-Israel posters. Please post the link to Lieberman's "semi-covert" group of "50,0000" activists. Don't be ashamed to post the source. But good for Lieberman! Israel needs all the support she can get.
28. #27: You're so right!
k1w1 ,   NZ   (12.02.09)
I guess I am feeling kinda threatened by Shturman's cohort of blathering, semi-ignorant "internet fighters". But that's probably because there's a feeling of something sinister about it all. Yep, feeling slightly threatened [as threatened as I feel about the mullahs in Iran suddenly breaking out of Persia and imposing their crazy regime on the whole world -- as Israel constantly tells is about to happen]. But mostly I just feel amused, and a bit curious, too, about why the state of Israel, and pro-Israeli groups such as Give Israel Your United Support, feel they need to employ these sort of underhand-tainted tactics. Seems to me that Israel and it's collective supporters are like some sort of self-centered, angst-ridden teenager -- unable to handle personal criticism, anxious to be liked by everyone and loudly demanding respect rather than trying to earn it, defiant and disrespectful, and desperately wanting to be treated like an adult even while they act like a bratty child. Oh well, I guess even the worst behaved teenager can sometimes grow up to be a good productive member of society, eh... Hopefully that will be Israel one day. [So "Hasbara" means "expanation", which would make it the Department of Explanation. Do you think, Cynthia, that might be a way of saying "propaganda"?]
29. :: k1w1 - #25
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.02.09)
Thanks for the info k1w1, very interesting. I guess this is another Israeli project to ‘win hearts and minds’ and improve Israel’s battered and tarnished image. A bit like the ‘Megaphone’ project isn’t it? I think it is safe to say that none of the 50,000 activists are here on this website as the current rabid pro-Israel supporters are useless and wouldn’t be employed by anyone to ‘improve’ Israel’s image as clearly their bigoted comments only act to further tarnish Israel. Interesting to note that Israel has to resort to clandestine propaganda projects like these to try and ‘improve’ Israel’s image.
30. Ridiculous article. Obama is very hostile to Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.02.09)
All the available evidence demonstrates Obama is very hostile to Israel, particularly in his actions. It further demonstrates Obama would be even more hostile to Israel if it weren't for the largely pro-Israel sentiments of Congress and Americas in general. Obama bends over backwards to show submission to Israel's enemies while treating Israeli leaders, like Bibi, with utter disrespect. The disgraceful "shoe" incident is only one illustrative example. Obama's demands for settlement freezes are a direct unilateral scrubbing of Israel's understanding with the Bush administration and previous administrations. The fact that Obama sometimes mouths politically obligatory words of support for Israel does not nullify his almost completely hostile actions.
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