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IDF kills gunmen behind Israeli's shooting death; 3 more killed in Gaza
Ali Waked and agencies
Published: 26.12.09, 09:24
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61. Nour - Palestinians do not have any right to kill
Joe Sittizen ,   Jerusalem   (12.26.09)
Nour, Palestinians do not have any right to kill Israeli civilians. What you call "the legitimate right to resist the occupation" is actually a war crime. Palestinians do not have any right to commit war crimes. Goldstone said Palestinian killing of Israeli citizens is a war crime. Amnesty Intl and Human Rights Watch say the same thing. Israel retaliated for the murder of one of its citizens by targetting the attackers. Sorry, but we know that you Palestinians think that Palestinians who kill Israeli civilians are heroes, but international law calls them war criminals. If you kill us, we will kill you back much worse. If you make peace with us, you will prosper even more. Tell you leaders to get their butts back to the negotiating table.
62. Tomorrow, Sweden will announce that....
Phillippe ,   Phoenix State: USA   (12.26.09)
the IDF skinned and ate the dead terrorists, except for the vital organs sold to support Mossad operations against Santa Claus
63. wrong headline. killed terrorists before they killed israeli
ralph   (12.26.09)
this distorted headline denies israel and strengthens the terrorists.
64. Another decieving headline!
Jay3 ,   ISrael   (12.26.09)
They were clearly 6 terorists, yet YNet allows Ali Waked to make people think they were innocent by inferring that they were civilians in the headline!
65. :: Sarah B - #59
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.26.09)
Charles stated that “The IDF doesn’t eliminate innocents”. If, as Sarah B states, the post from Charles is “entirely correct” then she can explain why the following unarmed children, with no ‘terrorist’ ties and who posed absolutely no risk or danger to either the IDF or Israel were murdered: Hamad Barak Salem Silmiya (age 13) who was killed by IDF gunfire to his head while herding animals east of Jabalya, Gaza on the 14 Feb 2009. Mustafa Muhammad Sabri Wadi (age 15) who was killed by IDF gunfire to his head while traveling on an animal-drawn cart near the Gaza perimeter fence on the 13 Nov 2009. Cite a clear and *lawful justification* as to why these innocent children were murdered?
66. Mahatma Ghandi
han ,   sydney   (12.26.09)
An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind - Mahatma Ghandi
67. not a happy day
(12.26.09)
Killing the three Fatah terrorists won't bring back Meir Chai z"l and what is most painful is that Meir Chai did not have to die. If the terrorists were not released from Israeli prison, Meir Chai z"l and the terrorists would still be alive. If the checkpoint between Shchem and Tulkarm hadn't been removed two weeks ago, Meir Chai z"l and the terrorists would still be alive. If the Police, IDF and GSS weren't busy beating Jews who built houses, Meir Chai z"l and the terrorists would still be alive.
68. :: Jay3 - #64
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.26.09)
Jay3 if this is the case tell me what ‘terrorist group(s)’ the 3 Palestinian civilian youths killed in Gaza were members of? Also tell me what ‘proof’ you or the IDF have that clearly proves that they were involved in an ‘act of terror’? Lastly cite what ‘weapons of terror’ they were using/found with?
69. :: Joe Sittizen - #61
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.26.09)
Joe Sittizen of course Palestinians do not have any ‘right’ to commit war crimes. However answer me this: Do Israelis have any right to commit war crimes? For example do the IDF have a legal and lawful right to use Palestinian civilians as human shields?
70. MAHATMA GHANDI EQUALLY GUILTY FOR
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (12.26.09)
ADVISING WINSTON CHURCHILL NOT TO INTERFERE IN THE JEWISH HOLOCAUST- MAHATMA GUILTY OF THE SIN OF SILENCE !
71. Bravo, IDF!
Cameron ,   USA   (12.26.09)
Those who needed to be removed from the scene, were removed. Those plotting murder & mayhem, had it served to them.
72. thanks Israel for facilitating martyrdom
observer   (12.26.09)
thanks Israel for boasting Palestinian resistance
73. To: No. 65
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.26.09)
Two examples are a little light, don't you think? I note, too, that these are your words and not cited to any reputable news source. Neither have you informed as to whether the IDF conducted in investigation (they usually do) or if there was provocation. Oh -- by the way -- there are any number of military bases in the United States where if you stray too close to the fence, you are shot. The signs say that no warning will be issued. Israel has a similar policy, particularly with respect to its border with a hostile entity sworn to its destruction. Still, Matty -- two? In the Arab world, they are not boys in any case -- they are men of marriageable age. Are you going to reply, or are you going to slink away as you always do when I trash your ridiculous posts? Oh, by the way: Merry Christmas.
74. Well done IDF
Lioness ,   Israel   (12.26.09)
Now concentrate on stopping terrorism, that is your job not expelling Jews out of their land. Again Kol Hakavod for getting those animals.
75. :: Sarah B - #73
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.26.09)
I gave enough information in both cases for *you* to check out these two killings. Irrelevant as neither of these two innocent children were near a ‘military base’. Also to point out the fact that Jabalya (where Hamad Barak Salem Silmiya was murdered) is nowhere near the Gaza border. I asked a very simple question: “Cite a clear and *lawful justification* as to why these innocent children were murdered?” Sarah B could and did not cite a clear and *lawful justification* as to why these innocent children were murdered? So much for pretending to be a lawyer!! Sarah B the onus was on you to justify these two deaths (yes just the two – I did not want to tax you) and you could not. Therefore your previous statement that Charles was totally correct in saying that the “The IDF doesn’t eliminate innocents” has no basis and by your inability to prove otherwise only shows that your words and ‘opinion’ have no merit or value as they are not founded in fact. As you cannot stand by what you say eg: “The IDF doesn’t eliminate innocents” it will be a long time before you can ‘trash’ anything I write!!
76. to # 54 from Ahmad
Ahmad Abouali ,   nablus   (12.26.09)
thanks Marcel for revealing outright your (Zionist) fascistic and fear-mongering attitude towards innocent civilians. if your post, #54, is not pure hatred and call for more terrorism, what else can we call it? thanks once more for your candid Zionist diatribe-mentality, let the world read and watch the paranoia the Zionists world wide are living in! Shame, indeed!
77. To 65
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.26.09)
Those cases were maybe "errors" , you know there are sometimes soldiers killed by friendly fire too . What i said : the IDF will not eliminate voluntarely innocents . This Jewish person was an INNOCENT unarmed victim .
78. most of us know
Mary Beth   (12.26.09)
We can see through terrorist "logic" quite easily. Evil commits an act of evil. finds a motive later on, and then tries to convince the blind
79. what ashame!!!
Yafa ,   Palestine   (12.26.09)
the hero of your army wonders me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! children of my people say to yoy bravo!!!!!!
80. Read something more ! they were NOT sleeping
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.26.09)
They were not sleeping , but did'nt want to surrender themselve . So the IDF had NO other solution than to eliminate them , and it was done very properly , without any innocent being harmed . Good job IDF
81. Sarah , our "friend" matty
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.26.09)
Forgets something . When soldiers see something suspect , they will not wait to be killed , they have to shoot . That's war . We begin to know this guy , even when his "friends" will murder Jews in a bus , it will be WE who are guylty for causing the death of his "friend"
82. #24
palestinian ,   palestine   (12.26.09)
NO we do not teach our kids this, and i am sure you know nothing about the palestinians, you only see what news want you to see. we need to raise our kids in a good way, without seeing your soldiers on each enterance to our cities, putting their guns in our kids faces.. when their is hope, their is life.. with the respect to what you say, "its not us" who teaches our kids that GOD will be happy when you kill any one else who is not a jew.. we do not trech our kids to shoot any moving shadow, kid, man, woman, tree.. or a bird.. I invite you to visit the palestinians or ask some of your friends who dealt with palestinians.. we are not the way you believe .. we deserve to have our live and freedom the same way you do have it..
83. Did the PA help
DOV ,   USA   (12.26.09)
Did the PA help in the identification of the murderous perpetrators? Did the IDF them to come out of their homes peacefully?
84. To: No. 75
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.26.09)
"Mustafa Muhammad Sabri Wadi (age 15) who was killed by IDF gunfire to his head while traveling on an animal-drawn cart near the Gaza perimeter fence on the 13 Nov 2009." Perimeter fence, eh? Your words. It is a hostile border. The perimeter fence demarcates the border. "Hamad Barak Salem Silmiya (age 13) who was killed by IDF gunfire to his head while herding animals east of Jabalya, Gaza on the 14 Feb 2009." East of Jabalya, eh? Take five baby steps and you are right at the perimeter fence. What you fail to realize is that Israel does not fool around when it comes to existential issues. For all the soldiers knew, these young men could have been suicide bombers. It's not like it hasn't happened before. It has. Shame on Hamas for utilizing teenagers, but that is what they do. I suggest you take the matter up with Hamas. Israel has an inalienable right to defend its borders and protect its citizens. It doesn't need your permission. Here is a link which will show you exactly whose cause you have so enthusiastically adopted. The whole thing will be quite educational for you, but I would like you to scroll down to the bottom and see the six minute film: http://lindasog.com/public/terrorvictims.htm Did you admire the handiwork of the people whose cause you espouse? Are you passing out sweets? Matty -- please do not delude yourself. My ten-year old can trash your arguments. Most of us have done so on any number of occasions.
85. That's what I am talking about. Rak Kach!
USA   (12.26.09)
Don't arrest this scum, identify, shoot and kill. That's it. Rak Kach.
86. To: Phillippe at No. 62
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.26.09)
It would be funny if it weren't the truth. In any event, you have made my day.
87. Not buying a word of it, #82
Cameron ,   USA   (12.26.09)
The origin of the unending murder, mayhem, and barbarism pouring out of the Islamic World is a direct, straight-line product of your Islamic faith/culture. The rest of the "infidel" portions of the planet have no patience for the malevolence & irrationality that seems to pervade your approach to life, and dealing with others. That very heavy hand will always be there for those Muslims scheming to inflict death and destruction on others. The IDF was exceedingly correct in simply offing that collection of barbarians.
88. # 84
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.26.09)
Ecellent link & heartbreaking video Sarah B. Awaiting Matty's responce.
89. Example of Trust, expected in Shallit deal.
Roland Seener ,   London England   (12.26.09)
90. :: Charles - #77
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.26.09)
How humane! Charles the IDF have killed over 1,000 Palestinian children since 2000, are you going to claim that they are all ‘errors’ too?! Leaving aside the terrible spelling and grammar you did not say that: you said “The IDF doesn’t eliminate innocents”. Adding in the word ‘voluntarily’ is only weaselling. Either way you, like Sarah B, could not answer the very simple question ie; Cite a clear and *lawful justification* as to why these youths were killed? Both of ye have failed dismally to justify the murder of 3 youths who posed no danger to the IDF or Israel. If ye cannot justify these deaths how can ye justify the thousand other civilians that have been killed by the IDF. The simple answer is that ye cannot because there is no lawful justification. Hence if there is no lawful justification the deaths are murder.
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