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Ultra-Orthodox Jews make rare visit to Gaza
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Published: 01.01.10, 15:38
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1. Hanniyeh shows them new Jewish homeland on stilts in DeadSea
Alan ,   SA   (01.01.10)
2. If Hamas will keep those NK,we should release ALL prisoners
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3. How big is the check Erev Rav received to pay this visit?
Keren ,   IL-BR   (01.01.10)
True,many religious Jews believed that only Mashiach could bring Jews back to our rightful Land,but ,once it ,seemingly,has not been exactly like that ,and as Jews believe that all is in Hashem's hands, Jews accept what it is and do their best to fix things. Only enemies of the Jewish people,only enemies of Israel, can do what these 4 men are doing.
4. NO ACHEIVEMENT LETTING IN MENTALLY HANDICAPPED PEOPLE
SO WHAT ,   ..............DACON9   (01.01.10)
A NEWS STORY ABOUT ILL PEOPLE IS A SHAME. YNET INSTEAD SHOULD HAVE DONE HUMANITY A SERVICE BY CALLING THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH SOCIETY THAT THERE ARE SICK PEOPLE IN NEED OF THERAPY OR MEDICATION RUNNING LOOSE AND ARE INDANGERING THE LIFES OF CIVILIANS
5. "haredim"
eddie ,   london UK   (01.01.10)
They have actually been quite successful in their ideology. They have managed to turn the secular left agaisnt the religious right and settlement movement. There is an axis of NK-Iran-PLO-Meretz-Kadima. They all agree about dismantling the west bank and E Jerusalem settlements. NK are simply honest abotu finsihing the job, whereas Meretz - Kadima will discss it for another 20 years and then agree to a dismantling of the State.
6. Their size "is a few hundred to a few thousand"
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (01.01.10)
Trade them all for Gilad Shalit.
7. was the self-anointed poseur from raanana with them?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (01.01.10)
8. Ynet - these are NOT Jews, ultra-orthodox or otherwise
Roscio ,   Rome, Italy   (01.01.10)
Please instruct your editors - this sick, evil sect has been placed under Cherem by the entire spectrum of competent, respected rabbis worldwide. By running to support every terror regime that openly seeks Jewish genocide, they have chosen to cut off their own souls from the Jewish people. They are Rodefim, pursuers of the blood of Jews and Jewish children. Also, please do not stain the honorable title of Rabbi by linking it to any of their ilk. Dovid Weiss is a Kapo of this deranged, bloodthirsty cult. He is NOT a Rabbi, nor should be called one. To call any of these creatures "Jew" or "Rabbi" is a slap in the face to your readership, and an insult to the countless Jews, both religious and secular, who have sacrificed their lives for Am Yisrael and Eretz Yisrael.
9. How big is the check they have received to pay this visit?
Keren ,   IL-BR   (01.01.10)
True,many religious Jews believed that only Mashiach could bring Jews back to our rightful Land,but ,once it ,seemingly,has not been exactly like that ,and as Jews believe that all is in Hashem's hands, Jews accept what it is and do their best to fix things where they are wrong. Only enemies of the Jewish people can do what these 4 men are doing.
10. Isnt That....!!??
Eli Freedman ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (01.01.10)
The Orthodox "Rabbi", standing next in the middle, white bearded guy, isnt that... Woody Allen in the movie "Annie Hall"??!!..So, thats where he disappeared too!!
11. Mr. Dovid Weiss is not a Rabbi.
Moshe ,   Monsey, USA   (01.01.10)
Mr. Dovis Wiess is not a rabbi he is not allowed in any Orthdox Jewish\ Kosher establishment in New York City or anywhere in the world. Mr. Dovid Wiess does not have smicha.
12. THESE PERVERTS ALSO SUPPORT IRAN
stude ham   (01.01.10)
they're not 'jewish'. they're perverts.
13. Well said!
#8 - Roscio ,   Montreal   (01.01.10)
I totally agree.
14. Neturei Karta: Self-hating excuse of humans
EST ,   Miami USA   (01.01.10)
Unbelievable!!!! They have no shame in calling themselves Jews...They are a sect of deranged individuals who have been in existence for about seven decades only...they are NOT Jews! I'd like to know how many of their fathers and grandfathers perished in the Holocaust and if these individuals consider those brutal deaths as bringing them closer to the Meshiach!
15. They're correct...
Michael Steiner ,   Bahrain   (01.01.10)
Israel is not a theocracy like their homeland, Iran, and our actions have nothing to do with religion or our interpretation of our religion. But then, secularism, separation of religion and state, and democracy are all unknowns to these freaks. Let them stay in 3Aza and perhaps open a bookstore there. In light of what has been happening to the few Xians there since 7amas came to power, let's see how long Neturei Karta's enterprise lasts. BTW, if they really live in Canada and America, I'd check their underwear on their way back. These kooks are more likely than even the Palestinians themselves to blow up an airplane...
16. NK would celebrate if Iran dropped a nuke on Israel
zionist forever   (01.01.10)
These people hate Israel more than some arabs do and see themselves as the true representatives of judaism because they believe zionists are not as righteous as they are because jews have no right to return to Israel until the Messiah comes. They are not even righteous jews because they hold alot of their protests on Shabbat worldwide. Shabbat is not supposed to be dedicated to politics of hate. During Cast I remeber seeing pictures of them in the news of the NK people outside the embassy in the UK throwing shoes and walking around with banners ( carrying is in breach of Shabbat ). There is nothing that these people would like better than to have Iran or the arabs destroy the jewish state, it would prove that G-D supports their politics and so destroyed the jewish state that has no right to exist. Now they have gone to Gaza lets leave them to rot there if they don't want to stay in Gaza maybe they can go to the UK with George Galloway they are made for each other. The NK people don't want full citizenship of Israel anyway so as they are not citizens we are not obligated to let them return so let them move in with their terrorist friends. I can just imagine an NK rabbi firing rockets into Israel.
17. neua carta, pacificism and the holocaust
marcel   (01.01.10)
Jews should have learned from the holocaust already. Many have and israel to a large degree has , but not completely.Different views can be held and expressed but certain minimal things have got to be done to avoid another holocaust.groups like neua carta who abuse the state have to kicked in the ass, serve in the military or national and martial arts has to be mandatory for all jews, male and female. The begging to christians has to stop.Secondly,t he pacifism of groups and individuals liek haaretz, olmert, ramon, livni, beilin, ben amii, even merridor, turbowica and turgeman, dekal, shai,has to modified by visits to aushwitz and other houses of horror. These people are propagating the traits that prevented the jews from lunging towards attacking and leaving, those even few that could. Instead, they sat like vegetables -haaretz would do this, pontificating over the virtues of waiting for the nazis to relent. I am disgusted by all of these cowards. i have said all the religious have to go into the idf, no exemption to anybody, even the sick have to do something. Nueua carta should be disbanded, deprogrammed and brought in. They are a classic example of what kept jews passive.
18. Neturei Karta
mike ,   canada   (01.01.10)
To have these people maskerading as rabbis is an afront to man and G_D. These cursed souls must never be referred to as Rabbis or in anyway representitve of anything Jewish. Y'mah Shemo Vzihron.
19. Okay
Sarah B ,   US and Israel   (01.01.10)
I'm prettty cool with that. Throw their sorry Nekurtei Kara asss out of hell. I don't want them back. May they find a blessed existence in Hamas. Neturei Karta are a blight upon himunity. However, as long as they remain stridently anti-Semitic, let's issue a mass herem on those pathetic "soldiers" and keep those borders sealed. Want to make a point? Good luck. the Neturei Karta deserve nothing less. Fools.\
20. neturei karta,aramaiac for.....
mahmoud ,   usa   (01.01.10)
"guardians of the city" zion,is canaanite for"city on the hill" basro,aramaiac for meat,,,hebrew,basar. lakhmo,aramaiac for bread,,,hebrew lekhem. shlomo,aramaiac for peace,salam in arabic,shalom in hebrew. i wish muslims stayed in their desert-al-jazeerah- and not invaded other countries and forced their language and religion on us.the karta are nice people,but failed at least three time on guarding duty they were defeated by the babylonians,romans and arab muslims.now i don,t mind them guarding any city they wish as long the idf are guarding the state borders,happy new year to you all
21. For all those thinking that Neturei Karta love Arabs
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (01.01.10)
These twisted bastards are neither Arab-lovers nor self-hating Jews. Like most 'normal' chassidim, they live their lives eagerly awaiting the arrival of Moshiach (the Messiah). The difference between them and 'normal' chassisim is that they believe Moshiach cannot come as long as there are any Jews in Israel. They believe that, when Moshiach comes, all non-Jews will be smitten, and Israel will be returned to the Jews. Sick and twisted? Most certainly. Pro-Arab, pro-Muslim, pro-Iranian? Not on your life. So, for all of you thinking that these are self-hating, pro-Palestinian people, that is not at all the case. They merely want all Jews out of Israel right now, so that Moshiach can come and kill all the non-Jews currently residing there.
22. FOUR people? -headlines around the world
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens,NYC   (01.01.10)
This story is running around the world with the spin that there are more than a couple of anti-Israel Jews. The Muslim/anti-Israel propaganda machine roars on into 2010.
23. Thanks Ynet for posting twice.You are very kind.
Keren ,   IL-BR   (01.01.10)
But you know,your censors are so sensitive that I must be as sensitive as them in my posts. You know...one wrong word can make the whole difference. But,thanks for posting all my attempts.Hope readers enjoy my struggle to get heard(even if twice with the same thing!).
24. # 21 flyingdoc57 in Florida
Ginette Golden ,   Toronto, Canada   (01.01.10)
Interesting theory but I don't think there is any validity in it therefore I am not too worried...if the All Mighty is as powerful as most of us think, when the time comes, He will do a "selected targeting" and our People the Jews can stay safely in Israel. A little bit the same principle as in the 10 plagues of Egypt where Jews had their front doors smeared with blood as to be spared from the wrath of G-d. Neturei Karta sect is bad for Israel and maybe they should stay and live with their host (in Gaza) because they seem to be happy there and understand their plight…meaning the destruction of Israel. So let them stay in Gaza, I don’t even think they are contributing to the Canadian or US society. Very weird group of People.
25. #19 Sarah B.S
Marco ,   Spain   (01.01.10)
Hey Sarah, these are the real Jews. You have hijacked the religion from its true holders.
26. Guardians of the City
Ezra ,   san diego usa   (01.01.10)
It's interesting that this group thinks the Messiah will come to create the state of Israel. Guardians of the City? The city is Jerusalem? They must think a gentile king like Cyrus will reappear and favor the Jews to rebuild the temple, as in the times of Ezra the prophet. Their logic confuses me. For some reason I don't think they'll get blown up, or murdered in Gaza on this trip. After Sabbath, they should go to Israel and plant some trees.
27. NETOURE KARTA
DANIEL RIMOKH ,   LOS ANGELES   (01.01.10)
I WISH SOMEBODY WILL TELL ME FROM WHERE THOSE NETOURE KARTA NUTS COME FROM....IF I CAN HAVE THE NAME OF THERE PLANET??????THEY MUST BE DESCENDANTS OF HAMAKEK...IMAHCHEMO....NEW YORK SHOULD BE ASHAME TO HAVE ANIMALS LIKE THIS LIVING IN THERE CITY....RABBI WEISS PLEASE STAY IN GAZA WHERE YOU BELONG WITH THE REST OF YOUR CLAN....GO TO HELL....DANIEL RIMOKH
28. #21&24
mahmoud ,   usa   (01.01.10)
isn,t killing is a contradictory to the holy!!!commandment that says thou shall not kill?!so why the masahia in waiting plans to "machine gun kelly" the human race,why can,t he slap us on the hand , and then we all sing halaujha lyrics,why do religious people always pray for great floods and plaques and not for humanism?
29. Hamas Can Keep These Traitors
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville USA   (01.01.10)
Israel should bar them from re-entering the country. These scumbags are more welcome in Gaza and Iran than they are in Israel.
30. Neturei Karta
Sam ,   Florida, USA   (01.01.10)
These misled individuals are not representative of anything Jewish, they are not symbolic of anything but the basis of the calamity that jewish people everywhere suffer. If they are so in love with Haniyeh and Gaza why don't they just move there and realize their dream - they will not survive there or for that matter anywhere else. They are in fact a dying breed
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